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Rich People Leaving California for Mysterious Reason
Frontpage Mag ^ | 1/15/2014 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 01/15/2014 9:21:21 PM PST by Beave Meister

It’s okay, the 1 percent only pays 41 percent of California’s income taxes. And half the state pays no income tax at all. No one will even notice they’re gone.

Prop. 30, approved by voters in November 2012, raised state income taxes retroactively to Jan. 1, 2012, on singles making more than $250,000 and married couples making $500,000. It raised rates by one, two or three percentage points through 2018, bringing the top rate on incomes above $1 million to 13.3 percent, the highest in the nation.

Bryan Goldberg, who founded the Bleacher Report sports website and sold it to Turner Broadcasting for about $200 million in mid-2012, is moving his primary residence from San Francisco to New York this year. A major reason, he says, is Prop. 30 and the way it was applied retroactively.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: bleacherreport; bryangoldberg; byebye; california; communism; coup; democrats; economy; expostfacto; govclueless; govmoonbeam; hollywierd; hollywood; jerrybrown; liberals; obama; prop30; richpeople; socialism; taxes; traintonowhere
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To: Marcella

I guess he’ll need some Texas Hospitality lessons.

Always an unhinged guy. A Shreiker, not a thinker.

Decidedly not a likely contributor to our Great State.


41 posted on 01/15/2014 10:43:58 PM PST by txhurl
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To: South40
The mystery is why I am still here.

California is a beautiful state. I imagine it would be hard to leave.

It is a pity; it used to be a conservative state.

42 posted on 01/15/2014 10:44:10 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Pontiac
It is a pity; it used to be a conservative state.

Hey, it's a pity the U.S. used to be home to a united people and our borders were secure and government didn't want to control literally everything you did...

Of course the ugly reality is nothing stays the same, regardless of where ya live. Including where you live.

43 posted on 01/15/2014 10:51:03 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
My critiques of California go well beyond the high cost of living. Liberals running the state are solidly behind the $68 billion rail line. California governor Jerry Brown has recently followed Rick Perry's lead and is taxing the working class so he can afford to give instate college tuition and financial aide to ILLEGAL aliens. After years of failure, Gil Cedillo, known as "One Bill Gil" has finally succeeded in giving drivers licenses to the ILLEGAL hordes who infest the state. I own a business. I can think of no state that is more business unfriendly than California.

Yes, you can grow your own fruits and vegetables here. I live on 3.5 acres and grow everything from avocados to citrus to grapes to olives. But I know I could live far better elsewhere where I'm not being taxed to death to pay for the latest California leftist's handouts to ILLEGAls and other vermin who are milking the taxpayer dry. That small fortune you mentioned is growing faster than you may think.

44 posted on 01/15/2014 10:54:15 PM PST by South40 (Liberalism is a Disease)
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To: South40

Hey, everyone is free to hit the freeway and head eastbound.

I understand for years now liberals are leaving and infesting other states...I’ve seen the complaints here for years now.

I say the more that leave the better and hope the trend continues.


45 posted on 01/15/2014 10:57:50 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: South40
Liberals running the state

BTW and the exact same is happening in D.C. with your fed gov and in many other states...I personally no longer trust anyone in government, regardless of party.

And remember politics is cyclical...Maybe things will turn around for CA and the rest of America politically. Who knows...

46 posted on 01/15/2014 11:01:52 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
If you read this article there is some good news. Many of those "rich" who are being taxed to death are the limousine liberals responsible for electing the far-left kooks who are behind this state's destruction.

I own property in Idaho. I've owned it since the early 90s. I visit there often but have yet to talk myself into moving there and taking the chance on being so far from my business. I have recently thought about selling what it took me 35-years to create. That's a hard decision, though.

47 posted on 01/15/2014 11:02:38 PM PST by South40 (Liberalism is a Disease)
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To: South40

Ya gotta do what ya gotta do.

BTW, a good percentage of those rich folk are leftist liberal folk with big dollars...

Idaho is nice, but way too cold from me...And as ya get older, the cold bites down really hard.


48 posted on 01/15/2014 11:05:36 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

The property is near Coeur d’Alene. It gets cold there but doesn’t get that much snow. I’ve spent many a winter there. I can handle it. Now if I could just convince the wife to go. She likes it too, as a place to visit, but her roots are in San Diego.


49 posted on 01/15/2014 11:09:15 PM PST by South40 (Liberalism is a Disease)
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To: South40

And ya do have a point. I know some hard core leftist idiots with bucks who run big biz, and some of them are even turning on their boy Obama. He’s clearly a disaster, and most of them know it...Some are even admitting it.

Again...Who knows what the next 5 or so years have in store for CA and the rest. I’m not real confident things will turn around by traditional means...But hopefully it will.


50 posted on 01/15/2014 11:18:31 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: South40

With us natives CA is a love hate/relationship...I’ve been to nearly every state and a dozen countries...But I’m still here because of biz and what was said in #40..

Just remember, once ya leave and to points north or east, you can forget this Mediterranean style year round weather and all the things to do, all within and hour or two drive. We have a somewhat remote hideout up in the mountains within a 2 hour drive, and it’s where we escape when needed. I can pretend I am in Montana but with much better weather...lol


51 posted on 01/15/2014 11:27:46 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Beave Meister

If you were in the upper income tax bracket in California, with the money you can save by moving elsewhere, you could rent a luxury home in California for a vacation any time you wanted to and still save money.


52 posted on 01/15/2014 11:30:34 PM PST by Uncle Lonny
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To: Beave Meister

Alternative headline....”State says rich people bad; still hurt when they leave”


53 posted on 01/15/2014 11:47:58 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
I think California is a tremendously beautiful state....I'd love to live somewhere in northern Cal or else the farm country....

and guess what folks...NYS is a gorgeous state as well...

but these places are run by libtardians and there is no escaping their tentacles...

54 posted on 01/15/2014 11:54:35 PM PST by cherry (.in the time of universal deceit, telling the truth is revolutionary.....)
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To: Beave Meister

Oh sure, he’ll save lots of money moving to New York!


55 posted on 01/16/2014 12:00:23 AM PST by cydcharisse (`)
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To: plainshame

I have to agree with you; I’m sick of hippies who live on campus voting to raise taxes, for some reason not seeing the damage it does to their aspiration to live a comfortable lifestyle.


56 posted on 01/16/2014 12:42:25 AM PST by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: Beave Meister

I found it much easier to live in Arizona and visit Cal. when I wanted to enjoy it’s amenities. Flop around in the ocean then head up the coast highway and go home.

No desire at all to live there, none.


57 posted on 01/16/2014 12:46:34 AM PST by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: Beave Meister

He moved to NEW YORK??? Not much of a diff. in taxes.


58 posted on 01/16/2014 2:24:34 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Beave Meister

What really sucks is wherever they land will be blighted. Too bad for the rest of us...wished we could wall the place up to keep the cesspool contained.


59 posted on 01/16/2014 3:12:07 AM PST by 556x45
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Well, 72 and sunny today. Redwoods and hiking in backcountry parts of Santa Clara only 15 minutes up the road. Beach is an hour away. Spectacular snow skiing 5 hours away as is Yosemite. Fresh fruit and vegetables year round.

Sounds good.

As long as your domicile is Reno or Carson City. IOW, enjoy California's amenities, but let its voters pay for them (or not).

60 posted on 01/16/2014 3:19:15 AM PST by cynwoody
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