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Gospodin Snowden (Is Snowden an agent for Russia?)
Legal Insurrection ^ | 1/19/2013 | William A. Jacobson

Posted on 01/19/2014 4:50:07 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans

Gospodin Snowden Posted by William A. Jacobson Sunday, January 19, 2014 at 4:45pm

How did Edward Snowden so carefully thread the needle to download a massive trove of highly secret documents from across the NSA and intelligence networks without detection?

How did he know exactly which job to go after in Hawaii to give him that access, and how was his escape so neatly orchestrated that he ends up first in Chinese controlled Hong Kong with its difficult extradition rules, and then on to Vladimir Putin’s arms?


TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: nationalsecurity; putin; snowden
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To: JRandomFreeper
I am not naive.

Ummm...believing that Al Queda will just go away if we lessen surveillance is definitely naïve.

I am not a pie-in-the sky leftist.

I don't believe you are a leftist. But I do believe you are a pie in the sky type...one of the conservatives whom Putin has fooled.

61 posted on 01/19/2014 8:07:00 PM PST by what's up
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To: what's up
Al Queda(sic) isn't on my street. NSA is.

Putin isn't on my street. FBI is.

I'll take my chances with Putin and the rag-heads. History shows I'm safer taking that risk than the risk of an out of control government.

Naive is believing that spying on American protects us from external threats.

When did you last deploy?

/johnny

62 posted on 01/19/2014 8:11:40 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Al Queda(sic) isn't on my street. NSA is. Putin isn't on my street. FBI is.

Naïve people believe that their street is the center of the universe. Mature people see the larger picture...that both and Al Queda and Putin are actively plotting to take down all of America, not just your street.

the rag-heads. History shows I'm safer taking that risk

Ah, yes. The innocent ragheads. My, your naivete is showing more and more.

63 posted on 01/19/2014 8:19:07 PM PST by what's up
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To: JRandomFreeper
Naive is believing that spying on American protects us from external threats

You honestly think there are no terrorists in the US and they are only externally based? Wow.

64 posted on 01/19/2014 8:20:20 PM PST by what's up
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To: what's up
Obama is doing a fine job of taking down America, with the help of the GOP. Putin isn't required.

Quit spying on Americans. It's unconstitutional.

Your sophisticated nuance is killing freedom.

/johnny

65 posted on 01/19/2014 8:22:46 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
There's nothing particularly sophisticated about not wanting to encourage terrorists. Plain common sense.

You desire the terrorists to gain more power. I don't need any nuance to point out how unbalanced that view is.

66 posted on 01/19/2014 8:32:44 PM PST by what's up
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Edward Snowden is a Communist traitor.


67 posted on 01/19/2014 9:03:08 PM PST by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: James C. Bennett

“Greetings” says conservatives on the Snowden bandwagon need to remember they’re “Americans”. Wasn’t Washington, Adams, Jefferson et al Americans?


68 posted on 01/19/2014 9:10:34 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: what's up; JRandomFreeper
Terrorists aren't the biggest threat to this country. It's the bed wetting, simpering cowards who think big brother is going to protect them. "Oh please, please, record all of my phone calls, intercept all of my email, store copies of every text I send and receive...just keep me safe from the cave dwellers and boogie men!" Not everyone in this country is a big ol' safety pussy.
69 posted on 01/20/2014 3:59:20 AM PST by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: what's up
You desire the terrorists to gain more power.

That is a lie. I gave years of my life to fight terrorism to be libeled by armchair warriors like you?

You are disgusting.

/johnny

70 posted on 01/20/2014 5:10:02 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Obama gave a speech last week saying changes need to be made to data collection and storage.

Quite a coincidence to do it now.

Were Obama and Holder involved with Snowden?


71 posted on 01/20/2014 7:08:32 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: JRandomFreeper
Your words don't back up a conviction against terror.

You are in favor of a policy of lessening surveillance on the terrorists, saying you'll take your chances with them.

Every common sense person knows you can't "take a chance" with an enemy whose sole purpose for living is to kill Americans. What a ridiculous view. You have to do more than "take a chance". You have to do something about it.

72 posted on 01/20/2014 7:26:49 AM PST by what's up
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To: Orangedog
who think big brother is going to protect them

I'm not sure who you think thwarted at least 40 attacks since 9/11 (according to the Heritage Foundation)? Yes, it was the Feds along with local law enforcement.

Yes, we want at little Gov't as possible. That being said, we also need a Gov't that's going to keep terrorists at bay. Do you really NOT want to listen in to find out what their planning?

73 posted on 01/20/2014 7:31:14 AM PST by what's up
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To: what's up
Mature people see the larger picture...that both and Al Queda and Putin are actively plotting to take down all of America...

Mature people also see that The Won, and the barbarians on the other end of his BlackBerry, with the help of the NSA, are plotting to take down all of Western Civilization.

74 posted on 01/20/2014 8:18:47 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring
So what will you do about listening in on terrorists' calls? Just ignore them?

Easy to bash...but no solutions given.

75 posted on 01/20/2014 8:55:51 AM PST by what's up
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To: what's up

Listen to activity where one party to the discussion is reasonably suspected of terrorist activity.

Don’t “Listen to everyone, just in case someone does something wrong”, which is the current approach.


76 posted on 01/20/2014 8:59:20 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring
Listen to activity where one party to the discussion is reasonably suspected of terrorist activity.

And then collect all data related to that party...all calls made within the last two years, etc. in order to catch not only the one party but the whole network. You can't do this if surveillance is curtailed.

Knowing the US can do this is keeping the terrorists at bay.

77 posted on 01/20/2014 9:06:06 AM PST by what's up
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
The author:

William A. Jacobson is Clinical Professor of Law and Director of the Securities Law Clinic at Cornell Law School. Prof. Jacobson is a 1981 graduate of Hamilton College and a 1984 graduate of Harvard Law School. At Harvard he was Senior Editor of the Harvard International Law Journal and Director of Litigation for the Harvard Prison Legal Assistance Project.

Those in high places want to start a shouting match with Russia. So it will be the bible thumping Russians vs the Moslem Brotherhood controlled WhiteHouse?

Priests in every army unit, bibles in every hotel room and no love for Chechens - the Ruskies are turning to Christ and the US gives Surface to Air missiles via Benghazi to the antichrist. This can't end well. The CIA and more are whipping up Ukraine - why else would they think they would be better off in a dying Europe that serves only as a host body for Islamic pod people?

The passivity of the victims in this video reminds one of the video game generation in the US - Clueless as to why they are going to die young....

http://www.barenakedislam.com/2013/08/06/chechen-muslims-cannibalistic-slaughter-of-russian-soldiers-warning-graphic-images/

78 posted on 01/20/2014 9:07:02 AM PST by x_plus_one (The harvest is great but the workers are few. Salman Rushdie is right.)
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To: what's up

So if someone from Afghanistan or Chechnya calls Suspicious Person A in the US, and Suspicious Person A then misdials a phone number and gets me, the Feds should be allowed to monitor me “just in case”?

I don’t think so.


79 posted on 01/20/2014 9:23:15 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring
If a terrorist in a terror network from Afganistan called me for whatever reason I would expect to be questioned.

If Oswald accidentally called me in the week before the JFK assassination, I shouldn't expect the Feds to look into it?

80 posted on 01/20/2014 9:55:04 AM PST by what's up
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