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Half-Prepping Equals NO Prepping: Lessons From The Icepocalypse
SHTF Plan ^ | 2/17/14 | Brandon Turbeville

Posted on 02/17/2014 4:32:15 PM PST by Kartographer

These individuals were able to weather the storm in conditions ranging from basic temporary self-reliance to minor discomfort and inconvenience. They had a source of food, water, and heat. They had a means to defend themselves if necessary. They did not require supplies after the fact.

They were also a distinct minority.

Others still believed they were prepared . . . until the storm hit. They had generators but no gas. They had extra food but no way to cook it. They had a well but no way to pump the water. Some had fireplaces with no logs or firewood with nowhere to burn it. The list of half-preparedness is endless but the resulting sum of that half-work is the same – they were not prepared at all.

In short, being prepared half-way is not being prepared at all.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: preparedness; preppers
Practice. Come-up with a sernerio and some weekend play it out. See how it goes. Like anything Practice...Practice...Practice!!
1 posted on 02/17/2014 4:32:15 PM PST by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!


2 posted on 02/17/2014 4:35:06 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
Redundancy is key.

And better to have too much than too little. If in doubt, buy it if you can afford it. Today I bought 12 pairs of socks that I wont need until 2015 at the earliest.

3 posted on 02/17/2014 4:41:15 PM PST by matt1234 (Hitler blamed the Jews. Obama blames the Tea Party.)
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To: Kartographer

I get a good laugh at these people. After the forest fires, floods and freezing here my last few years has been a disaster. I am prepared so it is at worse and inconvenience when the Post Office has been closed going on 6 months and the government is taking credit with fixing everything but I just set back and anticipate what will happen next.


4 posted on 02/17/2014 4:44:48 PM PST by mountainlion
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To: Kartographer

“They had a well but no way to pump the water.”

One of the most common mistakes I see people make is failing to keep an adequate supply of potable water around. When you see panic buying at the grocery stores, people are scarfing up the bread, eggs, and milk (i.e. the “French Toast Strategy”), but you rarely see them investing in a carboy of water.

Of course, panic buyers aren’t really preppers, but I’d wager even people who think they are fully prepared (but aren’t) make that mistake. In the last five years, I’ve only lost power for an extended period once, but I lost water twice, including once last month (water main broke in my neighborhood). Life begins to suck very quickly when you don’t have water to brush your teeth, to cook some noodles, flush your toilet, or (most importantly) just to drink.


5 posted on 02/17/2014 4:48:12 PM PST by DemforBush (A Repo Man is *always* intense.)
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To: Kartographer
As a survivor of the Icepocalypse that recently gripped much of the South in crippling power outages and freezing temperatures, at least three lessons can be deduced from the experience.

No way they are ready for zombies.

6 posted on 02/17/2014 4:49:40 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Vince Ferrer

I don't know they got the blocking the interstate down pretty well!
7 posted on 02/17/2014 4:52:17 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: CynicalBear

Ping


8 posted on 02/17/2014 5:02:28 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: Kartographer

We just went through that. 4 days without electricity. Had everything I needed and didn’t suffer. We did have the belt break on the generator and didn’t have a replacement for that. Had all the food we needed. Fireplace to keep the house warm and plenty of firewood to cook with and also a gas grill. Have 1000 gallons of water with a solar charged 12 volt pump. All in all pretty happy with what we had but will have replacement belts added.


9 posted on 02/17/2014 5:12:01 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: metmom

It was a good practice run.


10 posted on 02/17/2014 5:14:05 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: Kartographer
Like anything Practice...Practice...Practice!!

I started prepping 6 years ago and have made it a annual ritual for three weeks out of every March to not go to the grocery store to see how well we fare. We have it down pretty well but learn something every year to better ourselves. PRACTICE MAKES PERFECT.
11 posted on 02/17/2014 5:35:56 PM PST by jy8z (When push comes disguised as nudge, I do not budge.)
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To: Kartographer

The best survival plan is to live it. For the most part, whatever you need or do should be continuable regardless of shot term resupply. Wood fires keep going when electric or gas shuts off. Solar-augmented electric keeps going so long as usage is tempered. Pantry & freezer shouldn’t empty for a month.

It’s the stuff you never use that won’t work or be edible when you need it.


12 posted on 02/17/2014 5:42:14 PM PST by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: Kartographer; JRandomFreeper; greeneyes; All
I don't agree with his list, as all or almost all of those items would run out and they would have nothing. Men always jump to buy a generator, a poor method of power as fuel will run out and it makes a lot of noise to alert others you have something. I will have light as long as the sun doesn't explode and that solar panel will recharge the many rechargeable batteries and it makes no noise. He said buy lots of batteries and when they run out, use candles and have tea light candles for warmth. This man is uninformed and a detriment to those who would follow his advice.

Sure, if the people had something that is better than nothing but this man was putting forth they would be prepared if they followed his list of advice - he is fairly clueless giving others advice.

You said: “Practice...Practice...Practice”

I don't have to practice as I've been through enough hurricane powerless days to make those adjustments where I noticed small problems and fixed them.

It depends on what standard of living you want to preserve as to how much you have to prepare. I have duplicated everything except for cold air or heat coming out of the air conditioning and having a refrigerator run. I solved the refrigerator problem by having food that doesn't require adding anything to it that would be in a refrigerator and preparing it in qualities so it would be used that day thereby not needing to be refrigerated for the next day. To reproduce cold air, I have battery fans. To reproduce heat, I have an indoor approved propane heater with small canisters of propane and sleeping bags good down to 0. The propane can be used up but the sleeping bags will be here to wrap up in day or night. For other minor heating or light or warming food, I have enough jar candles that fit under Sterno stoves if needed, to last a year.

Let me also say men think they have to cook outside when power goes off, so they drag out the charcoal cooker and that is not what you need. I can cook inside my house for a year before I even have to think of outside. Prepare coffee and breakfast inside the house just like I do it now.

Here's a story of a person who can't be helped:
Hurricane comes through and I use canned heat and Sterno stoves to prepare coffee and breakfast. The lady across the street sees my husband drinking coffee and asks how he can have that. So, he comes in and pours a hot cup for her and takes her a can of canned heat and a Sterno stove. She was glad to have hot coffee but wouldn't take the canned heat and Sterno stove because she had never used one and was afraid of it and didn't want to listen to how to use it because it scared her so much.

It was just a freaking can of canned heat and little stove and the canned heat is used under chaffing dishes and in food buffets all the time. She ate cold sandwiches until power came back on and we gave her a cup of hot coffee every morning. She will not survive if there is an emergency that lasts for many days. She doesn't have common sense to evaluate what is scary and what can be helpful. If I had never seen a can of canned heat and a Sterno stove and was in the condition she was, I would have said, “Show me how to use this”, if I couldn't figure it out by myself. She is not old and feeble, she is in her late 40s or early 50s and is a banker who handles large sums of money every day. And, she is scared of a can of canned heat and a Sterno stove.

13 posted on 02/17/2014 5:47:11 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Kartographer
.....I bought this a month ago for backup heat, it works;
14 posted on 02/17/2014 5:54:36 PM PST by virgil283 (When the sun spins, the cross appears, and the skies burn red)
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To: Kartographer

Working on it. Some of us have limiting factors, so we’re stuck doing what we can when we can.

Me, I’ll be able to do more when my house is built enough to move into, and I won’t have to deal with a family member who thinks prepping is just an excuse for hoarding disorder.


15 posted on 02/17/2014 6:05:03 PM PST by Ellendra ("Laws were most numerous when the Commonwealth was most corrupt." -Tacitus)
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To: virgil283

Your heater is just like mine, Mr. Heater.


16 posted on 02/17/2014 6:08:34 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Kartographer

We lose power several times a year on the average. Anywhere from a few hours to a day or two. After 15 years, we’ve had plenty of practice. It’s pretty much business as usual for us.

Life sure got a whole lot easier since the local water company finally put in a fuel tank for the big backup generator that runs the community well head pump.


17 posted on 02/17/2014 6:10:25 PM PST by Noumenon (Resistance. Restoration. Retribution.)
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To: Marcella
"Your heater is just like mine, Mr. Heater."....

I'm pleased with it, portable for camping or outdoor events yet can be used inside with a window cracked.....

18 posted on 02/17/2014 6:50:47 PM PST by virgil283 (When the sun spins, the cross appears, and the skies burn red)
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To: Marcella

Have you ever made your own Sterno?

http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=129756

1 ounce white chalk
4 ounces white vinegar
4 to 8 ounces 99 percent rubbing alcohol


19 posted on 02/17/2014 6:51:08 PM PST by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: Kartographer
Half-Prepping Equals NO Prepping

Total crock of BS. Every crisis needs something different. Heat isn't needed unless it's cold outside. Water isn't needed if you can use a manual pump or run a cup down the well. A generator isn't needed if others can hear it and if you have enough canned goods to last through the outage and if you want to cook then put your kids to work on making a simple solar oven which will work even in cooler weather as long as it gets the sun's rays.

The author makes it sound as if you have to be 110% prepared with everything imaginable. Well, if that's the case then I might as well just throw up my hands and quit right now. Just point me in the direction of the nearest bridge so I can beg a luke warm bottled water from the msm stationed there.

20 posted on 02/17/2014 6:52:36 PM PST by bgill
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To: bgill

My take for the article was completely different. If you have a fireplace, buy you don’t store your wood properly? Like he said you buy a generator, but store no fuel or you never maintian it? You buy weapons and ammo, but no cleaning supplies? Long term can food, but no decent can opener. A large first aid kit, but no training how to use it? and so on and so on and....


21 posted on 02/17/2014 6:59:16 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
I’ve been prepping for about 4 years, focusing mostly on water, food and other necessities, as I already had a good supply of camping & hunting gear. As this storm approached I felt good about being ready for 3-4 days of grid down.
Having not used my old Coleman gas stove in the past few years, I got a creepy feeling about it and bought 1 of the last 3 propane stoves in town at 06:30 a.m. the day the of the storms arrival.
While getting prepared and set up for the power outage, staging flashlights and lanterns, loading the kindling box and testing equipment, I discovered that my old stove was dead. Luckily, I followed my instincts and had a new stove. The storm also prompted me to compile a healthy little “to do” list for things that I thought were settled to add to the list of things that I have been neglecting.

Lesson learned! Test equipment on a regular basis. I have always shunned the “Fire drills” of grid down scenarios by killing power and water for a weekend. I will now do this at least twice a year, at the beginning of summer and winter to insure that I have everything I need and that it all works.

22 posted on 02/17/2014 7:21:58 PM PST by Tagurit (Are your pigs fed, watered and ready to fly?)
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To: Kartographer

I have a sailboat equipped with solar panels, a reverse osmosis desalinator (Water maker), loaded with a year’s supply of food, full fuel and water tanks and a few other essential items. I think I am pretty well prepared.


23 posted on 02/17/2014 7:26:39 PM PST by Chuckster (The longer I live the less I care about what you think.)
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To: virgil283

Here's mine.


24 posted on 02/17/2014 7:49:41 PM PST by TangoLimaSierra (To win the country back, we need to be as mean as the libs say we are.)
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To: bgill

I really don’t care if others hear my generator. It is chained to an I-bolt set in concrete and the chain and lock can only be cut with a cutting torch. And I have plenty of ammo for anyone foolish enough to try stealing it.


25 posted on 02/17/2014 8:04:21 PM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Freeze Meister?


26 posted on 02/17/2014 8:08:55 PM PST by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: B4Ranch

No, I haven’t.


27 posted on 02/17/2014 8:13:07 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Noumenon

Texas requires municipalities to have a backup power system that will last two weeks for all water/sewage plants.

A Texan who gets their water from the city will have two weeks to put some up for later.

I also have a bag of sakrete to plug my sewer line to prevent backup into the house when the sewage lift stations fail.


28 posted on 02/17/2014 8:14:16 PM PST by rw4site (Little men want Big Government!)
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To: bgill

Solar oven?

Try this...

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=fresnel+lens+solar+power&sm=1


29 posted on 02/17/2014 8:23:05 PM PST by rw4site (Little men want Big Government!)
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To: Marcella

I am wondering which is the better idea — buy the components now and mix as needed or mix it up in quart containers now. Your thoughts?


30 posted on 02/17/2014 8:24:11 PM PST by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: Chuckster

How many people know where your boat is tied up and the fact it is fully equipped?


31 posted on 02/17/2014 8:27:37 PM PST by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: bgill

Power failure in GA is not bizarre, so no excuse not having a working generator (fuel etc included).
Freezing temperatures are not unusual in GA, so alternate heat sourcing is not unreasonable.
Having a pump, or at least a cup on a string (you’d be surprised how few have a suitable string), is vital if you’re expecting to use a well.
A generator will be needed for communications, serious light, and house-preserving cooling. (Many homes will internally tear themselves apart if not kept dry and cool inside.)

Whole point is that some people think they’re prepared, only to find that whatever their plan they lack something critical. Got a year’s worth of canned food, wise guy? You have a can opener that’s going to survive a year’s worth of cans?


32 posted on 02/17/2014 8:29:55 PM PST by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: bgill

We’re not talking “everything imaginable”. We’re talking normal/reasonable emergencies, and unable to handle primary preparedness. Generator and no fuel? That’s not about “110% prepared”, that’s heading toward 0%.


33 posted on 02/17/2014 8:37:56 PM PST by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: rw4site
“Texas requires municipalities to have a backup power system that will last two weeks for all water/sewage plants. A Texan who gets their water from the city will have two weeks to put some up for later. I also have a bag of sakrete to plug my sewer line to prevent backup into the house when the sewage lift stations fail.”

You can't depend on the water plant to have potable water for two weeks. Houston water was polluted after Ike hurricane went through there, so there was no city water to drink. In my town, one of the water stations flooded with flood water and took out the backup power generator.

You can't depend on ANY outside service working after a natural or manmade disaster. After Ike took out power, the hospital switched to their generator and it wouldn't work. There was no one to work on it as those people were home with the family during and after the hurricane and the only phones that worked were those that plugged directly into the wall. Critical patients were driven to San Antonio, a five hour drive. No operations could happen no matter how critical the operation was.

Due to phones not working except those that plugged directly in the wall, no one could call 911 if they needed to and if they had gasoline in their car and went to the emergency room, they had light from a small generator but could only do minor medical procedures as no one could be checked in to the hospital. Patients were left in their rooms in the dark and it was hot summer.

The best way to prepare is to assume there is no power and won't be and no utilities will work and there won't be any gasoline to buy. There was no gasoline for many miles in all directions from Galveston through my town and on to Huntsville. There was no power to get the gasoline out at a station but it didn't matter because the pumps were pumped dry.

No food returned to town UNTIL gas stations had gas as food trucks could not refill their gas tanks so they didn't come.

The last food item to come back was bread after the other food was already back.

I am on the high side in the immediate area where I live and the sewage will fill up those on the lower side before it gets to me and I know where the sewage cut off is not many steps from my front door. You are doing good to think of sewage because most people don't.

34 posted on 02/17/2014 8:38:19 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: B4Ranch

I wouldn’t mix it now because it is highly flammable. If a quart jar broke, it would be a very bad thing. Don’t know if you have small children but if you do one might find that quart jar interesting and that would be bad.


35 posted on 02/17/2014 8:43:01 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: ctdonath2; Kartographer; JRandomFreeper; greeneyes; All
“You have a can opener that’s going to survive a year’s worth of cans?”

I have two heavy duty regular type can openers and probably 8 military can openers. With a little practice, the military one works just fine. The reason I don't know exactly how many military openers I have left, I gave them as Christmas presents to some family members and gave each one a metal “spork”. I carry one of the metal sporks and one of the military can openers and a small authentic Swiss army knife in my purse. In my car I have a four way silcock key to open a water line on the side of a building. Everyone should have a four way silcock key in their car.

36 posted on 02/17/2014 8:59:16 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: rw4site

Sounds good. We’re on septic, and we keep it healthy.


37 posted on 02/17/2014 9:02:57 PM PST by Noumenon (Resistance. Restoration. Retribution.)
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To: Chuckster

Where do you keep your sailboat? Desalinators will foul with any petroleum contamination. Just about any inshore water will have some fuel skim. You’ll want to be careful how you collect your seawater.


38 posted on 02/18/2014 2:55:09 AM PST by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: DemforBush

I know what you mean about the water. We have had water prep here for almost 30 years because we have a well. It’s gotten more efficient in the last 8 or so years. I have kitty litter jugs (about 40-50) filled with water just for toilet flushing (straight well water). I have clear impact plastic (gallon clear former juice jugs) filled with softened water for washing up, brushing teeth etc. Then we have cases of bottled water for drinking. Would like to run the water pump with a solar backup but we are in Michigan (not good for solar). Plus hubby is resistant, still working on him.


39 posted on 02/18/2014 4:26:26 AM PST by MomwithHope (Let's make Mark Levin's The Liberty Amendments a reality!)
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To: Marcella

You’re 100% right. My narrow thinking on this posting was severely limited to a massive power outage. I wasn’t thinking about things such as those you mentioned.

I have a three months supply of potable water stored and the means to purify water from most any source other than the ocean which is too hundred away. I can distill water if necessary. Thankfully, most water available to me will require nothing more than boiling to insure its safety.


40 posted on 02/18/2014 4:57:23 AM PST by rw4site (Little men want Big Government!)
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To: Kartographer

BUMP!


41 posted on 02/18/2014 6:36:15 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: rw4site

“two weeks for all water/sewage plants”

Extremely unlikely to happen. Definitions of what constitutes the water supply, the cost of fuels, mechanical breakdown, etc. all say you’ve got but a few days at best.


42 posted on 02/18/2014 6:49:48 AM PST by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: outofsalt
Where do you keep your sailboat? Desalinators will foul with any petroleum contamination. Just about any inshore water will have some fuel skim. You’ll want to be careful how you collect your seawater.

We have been living aboard for more than 20 years. Cruising the North Pacific from Hawaii to Alaska for the past 7 years. We only use the watermaker in the open sea or in secluded, remote anchorages.

43 posted on 02/18/2014 9:04:20 AM PST by Chuckster (The longer I live the less I care about what you think.)
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To: CodeToad

You’re probably right. I was just stating something I had read about the Texas law. I don’t even know if the law is a reality.

As our favorite asshole said, “What difference does it make.”


44 posted on 02/18/2014 9:14:15 AM PST by rw4site (Little men want Big Government!)
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To: Kartographer

They are calling for tornadoes in the Ohio Valley this Thursday night. Our town gets hit by one about every two years, and it has been just over that since the last one struck.


45 posted on 02/18/2014 10:53:43 AM PST by Stonewall Jackson (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: B4Ranch

Thanks for the recipe! Would black board chalk serve as the chalk ingredient?


46 posted on 02/19/2014 4:23:06 PM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: TEXOKIE

Chalk is chalk as far as I know. Low grade carpenter / surveyor chalk is what I had in mind.


47 posted on 02/19/2014 6:19:26 PM PST by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: B4Ranch

Oh I see! Thanks so much!


48 posted on 02/19/2014 10:36:05 PM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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