Josh Lang's Photos of the Fuddy Crash Are Not the Same Plane

Butterdezillion's Blog ^ | 2-23-14 | Butterdezillion

[butterdezillion]

The photos of the Loretta Fuddy Cessna crash that Josh Lang provided to the media? They weren't of the same plane. The plane that crashed with Fuddy in it had a window between the door and the tail; Lang's photos don't. (I've got photos at my blog and in the first post I'll post them so you can compare the 2 planes)

Lang apparently had photos of a DIFFERENT plane ditching in the water and gave them to the media, claiming they were of this crash, and apparently the media didn't check out the genuineness of the photos...

Now why would Lang do that? Why would he post images of the area with no passengers or anything else in the water ANYWHERE, rather than taking photos of what was actually there and giving those to the media?

[noinfringers2]

I have not read the book ‘Dreams From My Father’ but I have read and do have a number of reviews in my files. One of the best is by Jack Cashill in October 2008. The info I want to see and verified by Obama is that his actual blood father is from Kenya. I can believe/accept that that Obama had family in Africa but I believe there is more to his history involving his mother Stanley Ann Dunham and Indonesia.

[Smokin' Joe]

BTW, rip currents (perpendicular to and heading out from the shoreline) result when waves impact the shore heading directly onto the beach (direction of propagation is 90 degrees to the beach). Those are localized and usually develop in heavy swell, although that depends on beach geometry. If the waves are breaking at an angle to the shore, the current will be a longshore current, parallel to the shore.

Either would tend to carry the plane into deeper water (further below the wave base), not toward the beach.

For more fun with waves and beach profiles, I suggest going here: link

This one shows the decreasing influence of a wave down to wave base (where depth=1/2 the wavelength). U of Georgia,

[WhiskeyX]

That area of the Molokai coastline was impacted by a swell on the following Saturday that is common for that season along the west coast of the island. If you read about Molokai, it is known for having beaches that are great for swimming, but only when the seas are calm for a certain part of the coastline in certain seasons. Warnings are given that the coastal waters can be quite rough and subject to dangerous rip currents except in the calmer seasons for that particular beach or coastline.

Everything About Molokai, By Folks Who Live On Molokai
Season and ocean conditions dictate which beaches will best suit your personal wishes. During the summer and fall the west end beaches, Kepuhi, Papohaku, Make Horse and Dixie Maru, are good choices. However, the winter ocean swells create monster waves that make dangerous albeit beautiful surf conditions.
http://visitmolokai.com/faq.php

Kaluapapa
The early Hawaiians built fishing shrines called heiau as places to make offerings for their safety while fishing in the rough waters that surrounded the peninsula. These heiau were platforms built of stone in circular and square shapes.
http://visitmolokai.com/kala.html

Sea Engineering reported the Cessna sank intact in a place where it balanced on a rocky point about 65 feet deep. The weekend weather, however, brought a strong swell and currents that “chopped” the sunken aircraft apart on the rocks and scattered the parts along about a 100 foot path on the sea bottom.

Wreckage of fatal Molokai plane crash arrives in Honolulu
Engine involved in crash similar to one from Oct. 21 emergency Maui landing
Published 1:39 PM HST Dec 19, 2013
http://www.kitv.com/news/hawaii/wreckage-of-fatal-molokai-plane-crash-arrives-in-honolulu/23572292

[Fred Nerks]

THe freeper to whom I addressed my reply was under the impression that the title of the article posted on FR, to which I directed him with a link, namely, 'Obama the African Colonial' was some sort of affirmation that he was of African heritage, when in fact, all that title meant was, to describe an ATTITUDE.

And yes, I'm very aware there were earlier colonists into Africa. However, the author of that article wasn't comparing his attitude to arabs - the comparison being made was to the european colonialists.

Like many educated intellectuals in postcolonial Africa, Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. was enraged at the transformation of his native land by its colonial conqueror. But instead of embracing the traditional values of his own tribal cultural past, he embraced an imported Western ideology, Marxism. I call such frustrated and angry modern Africans who embrace various foreign "isms", instead of looking homeward for repair of societies that are broken, African Colonials. They are Africans who serve foreign ideas.

[Fred Nerks]

...Oh you mean the book that the terrorist wrote for him....

Yes, that book, which is all you have that tries to tell you who his parents were, but with a forged bc you don't know where he came from or who he is.

[Fred Nerks]

I might try again. I gave a freeper on this thread a link to a post with the title OBAMA THE AFRICAN COLONIAL to which the freeper replied indicating he wasn’t convinced zero had any African heritage. I gave the freeper the link because I thought some of the material posted on that thread might be of interest. NOT because I thought the TITLE made zero an African.

[WhiskeyX]

“They are Africans who serve foreign ideas.”

Yes, and foremost among those foreign ideas is Islam, which some Luo adopted along with the slave trade and intermarriage with African-Asian Muslims engaged in the slave trade as an Arabized “African Colonial”; which was my angle on what you folks were discussing.

Obama’s paternal grandfather exchanged the later British Christian colonialism for the earlier Arab Muslim colonialism.

[Sloth]

That is very obviously an identical plane. Put down the crack pipe.

[WhiskeyX]

Relax Fred, I did understand that. I was just trying to make a point for all readers how Islam, Arab slavery, and earlier influences overlay the Sub-Saharan Africa peoples of Obama’s ancestors. Many other people have no idea whatsoever of the peculiar flow of history in Africa, so I wanted to bring out more of the colonial past of his ancestral people.

[WhiskeyX]

We do have a little bit more than just the forged birth certificate and the forged book/s. There are the paternal extended family and their neighbors in Kenya who acknowledged barack Hussein obama Jr. as their own during his visit among them, and the family members who came to the United States. It does appear they acknowledge his parentage, rightly or wrongly as the case may be.

[little jeremiah]

You keep saying “0bama’s ancestors” as though there has been legitimate documentation and evidence linking him to the Kenyan 0bama.

But there is none.

[little jeremiah]

There are the paternal extended family and their neighbors in Kenya who acknowledged barack Hussein obama Jr. as their own during his visit among them, and the family members who came to the United States. It does appear they acknowledge his parentage, rightly or wrongly as the case may be.

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ROTFLMYAOPIMP!

If you believe that, then you probably sent your bank account number to Nigerians who emailed you about princely riches about to come your way.

[Fred Nerks]

But that is NOT what the article is about that was posted with that title.

What was being discussed was an article that dealt with the adoption of MARXISM by the post-colonial rulers. But you wouldn’t know that because you didn’t read it.

The freeper to whom I gave the link rejected it because he believed I was using the title to promote the idea that zero was of African descent. He didn’t read it either.

Then someone else came along and pointed out zero made that claim in the book ‘Dreams’ in response to the statement that zero had never CLAIMED to be African.

And now you’re using the episode to give me a history lesson?

There are some 900 items that point to the history of that post-colonial marxism on that thread, plus a little light entertainment.

[WhiskeyX]

You are mistaken. I have qualified further up the posts that assuming Barack Hussein Obama Sr. is his father, his paternal ancestors are....

[WhiskeyX]

(Sigh) No, I’m not trying to give you a history lesson. I just wanted to avoid upsetting you by appearing to disagree when I tried to bring in the Islamic component versus of the latter day colonialisms. Now you’ve gone and got all upset anyway. never mind....

[Fred Nerks]

Never mind, it’s not about information, is it? It’s all about look what a clever boy am I. That’s the last time I try to direct anyone to that post. They read the headline and decide it can’t be right, he’s not an African Colonial...and come back to tell me how up the creek I am.
The interest isn’t in the article, it’s in the material which follows, the history of the marxist, post-colonial rulers and their black home-grown USSR, Stalin an Mao-loving cabal.

Back to Fuddy. It’s a far safer subject. And don’t forget he’s the spitting image of Papak Subud SARC! That’s the comment that started this silly exchange.

[WhiskeyX]

What par tof “rightly or wrongly as the case may be” did you not understand?

[editor-surveyor]

>> “ They read the headline and decide it can’t be right, he’s not an African Colonial...and come back to tell me how up the creek I am.” <<

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Welcome to FreeRepublic!
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[Fred Nerks]

I appreciate the reason you may have gone back further in time, but it did nothing to explain to the freeper who was under the impression that the title of the article affirmed zero was an african, when it did not.
The article itself describes his attitude/ideology. You replied to my reply to someone else and ended up totally out of context, and I wanted to set that straight.

[Fred Nerks]

LAUGHING...