Mr. Kennedy's errand boy lectures us about "violence and injustice" and a "double standard."
You don't want to go there buddy.
Posted on 04/17/2014 10:07:33 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
The cattle-ranch protest in Nevada was an armed insurrection by the Tea Party. One thousand Tea Party, so-called “patriots,” came to Bunkerville, NV, brandished weapons and the government backed down. Other mass protests in America have either ended in arrests or violent clashes between authorities and protesters.
There is an obvious double standard here because the government relented and turned away. Why did the government do this? The main difference between many other mass protests and the cattle-ranch protest is that the cattle-ranch protesters were armed with handguns and assault rifles.
Is American in such a state where the new formula of effective protest comes in the form of armed insurrection? Let’s hope not. It shouldn’t be.
There have been many past instances where standoffs ended in violence and injustice. The Wounded Knee incident in 1973 is a strong example of such injustice. The American Indian Movement (AIM) was a standoff with the U.S. Marshals Service and the FBI at the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation.
The standoff started when AIM leadership and hundreds of activists representing the Oglala Lakota tribe stood in protest in the town of Wounded Knee against the corrupt tribal president Richard Wilson. The siege lasted for over two months, and after an armed standoff with government officials, the protest was destroyed, the government reclaimed control of Wounded Knee, and Wilson retained office, despite charges of voter fraud and intimidation. Two protesters were killed and 13 others were injured.
Once again, the federal government failed the Native Americans.
Then there’s the Kent State shooting where the Ohio National Guard killed four students and injured nine, some suffering from permanent paralysis as a result of their injuries. The most tragic thing about Kent State was that the students were unarmed and protesting against American occupation in Vietnam.
The result was the same at Kent State as it was at Wounded Knee. People protesting for a popular and just cause were gunned down and silenced by the government. Uncle Sam got his way.
Fast forward to the Occupy Movement. Thankfully, no shots were fired and no one was killed. However, an unarmed mass of young protesters were dismantled by government intervention and many Occupy protesters were hauled away to jail. Another mass assembly for a popular cause broken down by the federal government.
So, why in the hell does the Tea Party get a pass? Is it because they’re white Americans with guns? The federal government certainly didn’t back down against the MOVE Organization in Philadelphia. Local law enforcement even went as far as to drop a bomb onto the West Philadelphia MOVE headquarters in 1985. The FBI supplied the bomb to the Philadelphia police.
There is an obvious double standard here. But what’s the x-factor? Is it race? Guns? Demographics? Ideology? Or a combination of many things?
“NEW YORK CITY!!?” “Get a rope.”
Suddenly I want some Pace picante sauce over my scrambled eggs this morning.
Anyway, RFK Jr. is a whacked out drugged out alkie like most of his clan so what he says is of zero consequence. Surprised he didn’t say “The BLM should have opened fire on those teabaggers!!!” That’ll come later, just watch.
This is the first time I’ve heard the Tea Party associated with the Bundy Ranch activity.
I guess if you’re going to smear somebody...might as well be as inclusive as possible. Use a wide brush.
Sounds like Josh is disappointed there wasn’t a bloodbath with significant loss of life on the Bundy side.
What an azzwipe.
“BLM does not have legal police powers granted by congress, so its swat team was not legal.”
I’m still wondering how they (BLM) have the power to order a ‘No Fly Zone’ over U.S. Government property and the Bundy ranch.
Horses can trample thugs & knock over their trucks real easy.
The fact that the TEA Party protesters are just the tip of an iceberg. The MOVE people were not even popular among the black community. The Indians were a small movement, not hooked into mainstream society. Kent State was a panic reaction by National Guardsmen, not a deliberate order.
The government employees do not want to piss off the people who are in their neighborhoods and know where they live. Or as Fight Club aptly put it:
Because the gov’t backed down.
Why did the gov’t back down?
Because they did not have The Constitution on their side. The best measure of their OWN sense of illegitimacy was that when their authority was challenged they ran. No righteous steward of The Law COULD EVER do as the government did in NV.
This confrontation did not happen in a vacuum. For better than a century power has been stolen fron The People and centralized in the executive. What made 2014 different is that an executive has now picked up all of the strands of the various agencies and, having them in hand, SPOKEN LAW INTO BEING.
HE SPOKE LAW INTO BEING!
The psychic anger that has been building for decades in all honest Men who can understand simple language, was added to intolerably and exploded. Men who had other work to do put it aside and picked up their guns and stood up for The Law as they understood it.
People will try to caricaturize these Patriots in all the usual ways (just as the author has done)but those guns were LOADED. They were not symbolic. They were not being used to send a message or scare anyone. They were the tools of War in the hands of men who “had business in their eye” and who MEANT to defend Right if it cost them their lives. With the unerring instinct for self preservation that all animals have the government abandoned their implied claim of Duty and made a choice for War later rather than War right now.
Mr. Kennedy's errand boy lectures us about "violence and injustice" and a "double standard."
You don't want to go there buddy.
What Kennedy doesn’t understand, or if he does, does not acknowledge, is the fact that we as Liberty-minded patriots oppose government overreach and militarization, regardless of what political cause the protestors represent. The people had the right, have the right and will have the right no matter what some bureaucrat says.
The first amendment zones or areas they established and the blatant scare tactics of militarily armed storm troopers are what boiled my blood. Hell no!!!
I will gladly defend any protestors against Gestapo tactics!
Most people really have no clue about the Spirit of American Independence of 1776. They quake in their shoes thinking about opposing the Redcoats then, or the Fedcoats today. Only a few are Patriots. The rest are Tories. Then and now.
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Joshua de Leon obviously does not understand the difference between a mob of unarmed protesters and the constitutionally armed militia.
The US govt backed down for a few reasons at the Bundy ranch. One of which is that they were severely outgunned. Another was the fact that they did not have the moral highground. They were the lawless agressor.
The militias are not comprised of a bunch of college kids. They are mostly former military and/or LEo’s with combat experience. They are not going be cowed by a bunch of forest rangers with tactical gear and few mercs from Blackwater.
As long as the US govt continues its lawless attacks on the American public the response from the militia will continue and intensify.
Coming to Connecticut and New York, next.
I met him as a child when his father took him to Disneyland. My family was already at the park when all of a sudden you couldn’t get on any rides or attractions because - VIPs. This was just days before his father was assassinated.
The people killed at Kent State were not protesters, at whom the National Guard were not shooting anyway. They were bystanders near the bookstore. Shoot live ammo into the air, it does come down somewhere. If you happen to be under it, it's a bad day.
However, if we're actually going to revisit armed protest in the United States as a historical phenomenon, we'd have to go back to the very beginning. It really isn't a "new form of American protest", it's the oldest and original one.
And don’t forget the Soviet links to various agitators during that time period.
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