This is easily the most reasonable definition of "social justice" I've ever seen...

The Looking Spoon ^ | 4-21-14 | The Looking Spoon

[The Looking Spoon]

I don't think there could be a better counter-point/rebuttal to the social "justice" loons than this...

[Still Thinking]

Or phrase it the opposite way, depending on the degree of moral bankruptcy of the person you’re talking to: “Tell me how much of what YOU earn is MINE and why.”

[Blood of Tyrants]

Slavery is when someone else has a “right” to the money you earn.

[tophat9000]

But here it the problem..the left combines the meaning of words

earned = take/took....take/took = earned

So this case:
What you “earned” is what you “took”
What they “take” is what they “earned”

earned is a concept of merit..you earned is a concept of your merit you control

They reject you should be able to control your own merit..they are collectivist..merit will be allocated by the group..

[envisio]

I use this subject to try to teach my teenagers that there is no magic electricity fairy that keeps the lights on and there is no magic refrigerator fairy that refills the fridge.

I told my teen daughter to get up get herself a glass of water.

Actually I said...
“Put your phone down for 10 seconds and go get a glass of water.
Now, tell me what happened there. What all had to be put into motion for you to get that glass of water?”

[Little Ray]

Unfortunately, I know the Left’s answer:

“You did not build that, and what you have is a result of “White Privilege” anyway, so the Government needs to take it all and redistribute it.”

Really.

[envisio]

You are right. The author is assuming that the two minds work in the same dimension of reality.

[onedoug]

Like to government. Fine example, eh kids?

I’m waiting for their solution to the homeless problem. “You’ve got more room than you need. Therefore we are installing x homeless in your home. You are now responsible for their upkeep. And if they cause any trouble, the penalty will be enough to break you.”

[KrisKrinkle]

“As much as any one can make use of to any advantage of life before it spoils, so much he may by his Labour fix a property in: whatever is beyond this, is more than his share, and belongs to others.”

[Ohioan]

As usual Walter Williams is on the money (to the point).

For my treatment of the same contrived issue floating around in the heads of indoctrinated Leftists: Not Social & Not Just.

William Flax

[sickoflibs]

If you earn mo than me then its not fair.

[MrB]

Related, when talking to a lib:

So, let me get this straight.
You’re going to confiscate my private property against my will,
and give it to someone who in your opinion needs it more than I do,
and if I refuse to participate, you authorize that I be jailed or shot,

and you somehow think you’re a good person for advocating this situation?

[MrB]

The differences in reality are really just that.
Different worldviews based on diametrically opposite assumptions of the basic nature of mankind.

[Scrambler Bob]

You only earned it because I let you think you did.

So it’s really mine.

[Ohioan]

Yes, you identify some of the completely unsubstantiated rationalizations that Leftists employ. But those are merely rationalizations. The answer to such cloudborne arguments is a critical examination of the premises. How does their collective have legal authority over anyone who has never consented to such authority? Our Constitutional framework, certainly does not authorize such authority.

Secondly, how is leveling sentient beings, who have different aptitudes, different incentives, different moral perspectives, etc., fair, wise or even sane policy--even in a society, where such broad authority has actually been given to a collective?

The answer to the cloud dancers on the Left is a direct call to critically examine their premises. You will find that they cannot handle this approach, and will immediately resort to insult & slogan, as substitutes for logic.

William Flax

[tophat9000]

He assumes the ability to be hounest and rational

To be rational is to be able to distinguish (ration) between meanings like in earn vs took and to do it honestly.

Communism is the convergence point that ignorance meets dishonesty..

[Ohioan]

"The author is assuming that the two minds work in the same dimension of reality."

Not really. At least the Walter William's definition does not. The point is simply to undercut--to expose the absurdity--to rational people, whose minds do actually work in a rational dimension--of the grasping & fantasy (wish-list) driven premises of the egalitarian collectivists. The rational person, will be persuaded by references to things which he or she can actually observe; by references to verifiable history, etc.. We need never be reduced to simply shouting reality against one shouting fantasy & insult, which are the only argument the true Leftist has.

William Flax

[Kit cat]

Just reported, this is going to be the LIBS rallying cry for midterms!!!!
Can’t run on their policies, SO they will rally on how unfair the 1% are
fair share, bla, bla,, bla, !!!! They say it worked in 2012 so here WE go
again!!!!! I DISPISE THESE SOBS!!!! Never in my life has a POTUS gone
so far to DIVIDE this country in every way possible!!! WAR ON WOMEN,
RACE CARD, SUCCESSFUL PEOPLE bla, bla, bla!!!!

[ZirconEncrustedTweezers]

No, THEY will not confiscate it. They have the government to do that for them. They are not only too lazy to get off their corpulent arses and work for a living, they are also too lazy to beg or steal from us directly.

[MrB]

Well, right, they foist off their theft onto “the authority”, and refer to that “authority” as “us”, as if we all agree on what they’re doing.

But the need is to personalize it for libs who lean on their advocacy for their righteousness.

As in “you are no better than a common thief, and you think yourself ‘good’ because of your theft.”