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Does it Matter if Bowe Bergdahl Was a Deserter? (Yep, they're going there already)
National Journal ^ | June 5, 2014 | Brian Resnick, Sarah Mimms and Elahe Izadi

Posted on 06/05/2014 5:27:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

There is no shortage of people who will speak out against Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, the only American prisoner of the Afghanistan war, just released from five years of capture.

One is Justin Gerleve, Bergdahl's former squad leader, who appeared on CNN on Wednesday. "I believe that he totally deserted—not only his fellow soldiers—but his leadership that wanted the best for him and for our country," Gerleve said. He also implied that Bergdahl's capture led to an increase in targeted attacks against their units. (There are disputed claims over whether several died as a direct result of Bergdahl's actions.) "I can't say for sure the leakage was from Bergdahl, but it's kind of that suspicion that it did happen," Gerleve continued.

But when CNN's Jake Tapper asked him whether Bergdahl should have been rescued, Gerleve responded. "My opinion is yes; no American needs to be left behind."

This exchange seems to encapsulate the media coverage of Bowe Bergdahl—questioning his character while admitting, ultimately, that those details don't matter much.

Broad swaths of Capitol Hill that agree. Even the lawmakers who have expressed the most ardent outrage at the deal the White House cut to secure Bergdahl's release, such as Republican Sen. John McCain, himself a former POW, say it's irrelevant whether he was a deserter or not.

"I don't view that as having any impact on people who are on the top level of Taliban into Qatar, which has a Taliban office," McCain said. "And they are going to be back in Afghanistan within a year, killing Americans, trying to kill Americans."'

(VIDEO-AT-LINK)

The White House held a classified briefing Wednesday evening on the details of the prisoner exchange. When it ended, Senate Armed Services Committee ranking member James Inhofe echoed this idea that the administration's actions are more important than Bergdahl's military standing. "If Bergdahl had been a Congressional Medal of Honor winner, it would have minimized the atrocity that I feel that was committed by Obama for turning these people loose," he said. (Time also wonders aloud on its latest cover if Bergdahl was worth the price of five Taliban members.)

"There's too much emphasis on Bergdahl. That is not that important," Inhofe said. "What is important is what the president did."

The Bergdahl media story is following a familiar arc. Consider that in the beginning of the Snowden leaks, the media swarmed on all the details of his life—researching his girlfriends, his family, his activity on Internet forums, and so on. As that story evolved, it became clear it wasn't about Snowden as a person. It was a story about the state of global espionage, and a national reckoning of the power of U.S. government's signals intelligence apparatus. A year later, there's still no consensus on the question: Is Snowden a hero or a traitor? Expect a similar path for Bergdahl.

For sure, there are lawmakers who want to know Bergdahl's history and "whether this man was a deserter or not," as Senate Intelligence Committee Chairwoman Dianne Feinstein puts it. And a number of lawmakers do think it's relevant whether he deserted.

"For the American people, they would be willing to pay a pretty high price if somebody was a combat veteran," Republican Sen. Mark Kirk or Illinois argued. "If a guy was just a deserter they would not be into paying a very high price for getting him back."

The Army has pledged to complete a "comprehensive" review on the circumstances around Bergdahl's case, but the results may not come for some time. And in the meantime, lawmakers concerned about a myriad of other issues not related to Bergdahl don't want to distract from their critiques.

Part of what's at issue is that there is still so much not known about Bergdahl, with reports streaming out about the circumstances surrounding his capture by the Taliban. Basing your criticism around the prisoner swap on Bergdahl's background could end up backfiring. "The policy that [we are] making sure we get left-behind soldiers, prisoners of war—in this case, a captured prisoner—is the first priority,"Democratic Sen. Mark Begich of Alaska said.

Another part of the issue is that there is such little precedent for this scenario—an AWOL soldier-turned POW (reader-historians, feel free to email us when this has happened before). In that vacuum, what we're seeing is a clash of long-held U.S. values that serve more as maxims than iron-clad policy: "We don't negotiate with terrorists" (what the Republicans are saying) versus "Leave no one behind" (what the White House is saying). According to an Army spokesperson speaking to the International Business Times, "there are no set regulations governing when or whether a soldier can be left behind—that it is left to the discretion of the commanding officer." And the U.S. does negotiate with terrorists, just not publicly.

According to a 2005, Congressional Research Service Report, the official U.S. policy regarding alive prisoners of war (from Vietnam, at least) reads as follows: "Should any report prove true [that an American is still being held captive in Vietnam], we will take appropriate action to ensure the return of those involved." Although there is a precedent for charging American POWs after they return home. In 1979, Pfc. Robert R. Garwood returned to the U.S. after 14 years in Vietnam (he was prisoner for at least four of those years). Upon arriving home, he was court-martialed and convicted of collaborating with the enemy. All that considered,the Bergdahl scenario is still unique.

The story of his possible desertion and capture will keep making headlines and will draw attention. But, for the sake of Washington, this story isn't about a solider. It is about Guantanamo, the power of the White House versus Congress, and the drawdown of the Afghanistan war.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; bergdahl; obama; snowden
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The fact that there's only 20 years separating the Reagan administration from the Obama administration just amazes me.
1 posted on 06/05/2014 5:27:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

YES! IT DOES!


2 posted on 06/05/2014 5:28:34 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Isn’t there meaning in the fact that he was with the enemy for five years, but never categorized as a POW?


3 posted on 06/05/2014 5:29:54 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It certainly matters as to what comes next: an increase in rank & back pay, or a court martial. I’ve heard that it is up to the Defense Dept, but they are all bending over for Obama at the moment.

It’s another outrageous moment in the presidency of Barack Hussein Obama. But there have been so many outrages that I guess it doesn’t make all that much difference any more. :-(


4 posted on 06/05/2014 5:31:26 PM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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“Another part of the issue is that there is such little precedent for this scenario—an AWOL soldier-turned POW (reader-historians, feel free to email us when this has happened before).”

Ever hear of Charles Robert Jenkins?


5 posted on 06/05/2014 5:32:11 PM PDT by Insigne123 (It is the soldier, not the community organizer, who gives us freedom of the press)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You’re not the only one, Vet. I keep thinking I’ll wake up from the nightmare and the Gipper will be in charge once again.

What was this man supposed to say? Of course he said Baby Bowe should have been rescued. He would have been vilified if he said anything different. As it is, the vast left wing media is going to vilify him anyway and probably bring in the IRS to help along the way.

They disgust me.


6 posted on 06/05/2014 5:32:14 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is beyond belief. You don’t swap 5 high level enemy commanders for 1 lone deserter when hostilities have not ended. What a pantload.


7 posted on 06/05/2014 5:33:27 PM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Am I the only one who sees absolutely no rationale for wanting to return this man home? In the previous centuries of American history, desertion was a capital offense, and that was at a time when virtually all military conflicts involved mandatory drafting.

From what I have heard this guy was a Taliban sympathizer who ran off to be with them, getting at least six guys killed. So what if he changed his mind later. Too late. To trade 5 bloodthirsty war criminals in exchange for the weasel is just unfathomable to me.


8 posted on 06/05/2014 5:34:13 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The WH gave a briefing to Senate last night. They claimed to Senators that the NYT report of Bergdahl leaving a note was “untrue”.

Today I saw a tape of Steve Malzberg show via HotAir.com and a Sp. Forces Officer at 5.30 on tape — disputes that. Worth a look. Totally credible source.


9 posted on 06/05/2014 5:34:56 PM PDT by bunster
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To: bunster

That major nicknamed “Rusty” or some such?


10 posted on 06/05/2014 5:35:39 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million USD for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes.


11 posted on 06/05/2014 5:36:02 PM PDT by bunster
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
To be entitled to prisoner-of-war status, captured persons must be lawful combatants entitled to combatant's privilege—which gives them immunity from punishment for crimes constituting lawful acts of war such as killing enemy combatants. To qualify under the Third Geneva Convention, a combatant must be part of a chain of command, wear a "fixed distinctive marking, visible from a distance", bear arms openly, and have conducted military operations according to the laws and customs of war.-------per the Geneva convention.

The media is throwing the POW tag around kind of loosely. First he wasn't bearing arms, was not operating under chain of command, and may not have been wearing a uniform.

12 posted on 06/05/2014 5:36:56 PM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bergdahl wasn’t left behind. There are many soldiers still serving honorably in Afghanistan. The war isn’t over yet and the war will continue against the US for many years to come.

This “left behind” argument is all total BS. Frankly, I have no problem leaving trash behind.


13 posted on 06/05/2014 5:38:59 PM PDT by dforest
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Oh, it matters, and it matters a great deal if he had collaborated so far as to help them kill his fellow soldiers. He isn't a prisoner then. And 0bama has already dealt with at least one American jihadi through drone fire - Samir Khan. So let's not pretend this is any sudden new 0bamanian respect for military honor and the sanctity of American lives. He doesn't know the meaning of the terms.
14 posted on 06/05/2014 5:40:38 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: beethovenfan

Showtime signs Bowe Bergdahl to star in Homeland season 4.


15 posted on 06/05/2014 5:49:13 PM PDT by RossA
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Brian Resnick, Sarah Mimms and Elahe Izadi

O look! Three more people who have earned their death!

16 posted on 06/05/2014 5:52:55 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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“Jake Tapper asked him whether Bergdahl should have been rescued.”

False premise! The question should have been: Should the military/CIA have continued to try to find Bergdahl and bring him back to the United States? The answer to that would have been yes. Bring him back for a courts-martial for desertion or treason depending on the evidence. But he should not have been traded for five of the worst war criminals who have taken numerous American lives.


17 posted on 06/05/2014 5:54:27 PM PDT by ImNotLying (The Right To Bear Arms: Making good people helpless won't make bad people harmless!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I remember one of the big George W. Bush "scandals" was his service as part of the Texas Air National Guard.

Huge scandal!!
Huge!!
So much worse than anything Bowe Bergdahl did!!!!!!
Front page news around the country for weeks and weeks!
It involved ... uhhh ... it was ... ummmm ... well ... it was a scandal of some sort.

But it was HUGE!

18 posted on 06/05/2014 5:56:29 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Booshies and Rove are part of the problem the last 20 years.


19 posted on 06/05/2014 6:02:04 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: beethovenfan

Considering the courageous people who looked for him and risked their lives (or worse, may have lost theirs) “old news”(!!!), had Obama handled this correctly, it wouldn’t have turned into such a sh%%storm.

1. Let Congress know about it as required by law.
2. Do the trade.
3. Make it known that regardless of any questions about the ‘how’ he was ‘captured’, that it is the policy of the military not to leave soldiers behind. I believe that any objections from the military would have never even taken place.
4. Do not take a “victory lap” in the Rose Garden with Earth Mother Mom and Taliban Dad. To Middle America, this was the equivalent of putting a red flag in front of a bull or a Nazi flag in front of a synagogue.
5. After their usual thorough investigation, let the military render their judgement and punishment as appropriate.
6. Definitely do not parade out a snot-nose girl from State (who dug her high school glasses out of a drawer so as to look authoritative) to contradict the worlds of several eyewitness soldiers.

Had he done or not done these things, although I would not have been in favor of it, I would have understood it, and, well, he is the President.

I have no way of understanding if the problem is in his idiot, under-educated and highly overpaid ivy-league PoliSci major handlers, or in him.


20 posted on 06/05/2014 6:03:34 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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