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Right-Wing Christians Take It To a New Low By Handing Out Guns In Churches (Rant Alert)
PoliticusUSA - Real Liberal Politics ^ | June 16, 2014 | Rmuse

Posted on 06/17/2014 4:05:58 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

“A rose by any other name would smell as sweet” is a commonly quoted line from William Shakespeare’s play Romeo and Juliet, in which Juliet appears to argue that the names of things do not matter, only what things really “are.” The line’s meaning is applicable in America in the sense that although the overwhelming majority of religious conservative Americans hate everything Jesus Christ preached and taught, calling themselves Christians and followers of Christ does not change the fact they are anti-Christ in every sense of the name. The notion of so-called Christians exposing themselves as the anti-Christs they really are is being played out in the drive to put more guns in the hands of more Americans, especially conservative Christian Americans; it is no surprise it is being advanced by right-wing Christian churches.

Last month at the Lone Oak First Baptist church in Paducah, Kentucky, a line of people wrapped around the building waiting anxiously to get inside, but not because they sought spiritual guidance from Jesus Christ’s teachings, but to win one of the twenty-five guns being raffled off. One may be inclined to think Lone Oak First Baptist is an aberration among churches purported to be “followers of Christ,” but according to the Kentucky Baptist Convention, handing out human-killing weapons is the best way to get people into church. Last year there were at least 50 “Christian” church gun giveaways in Kentucky alone, and an official at Lone Oak Baptist said handing out free guns is a rallying point to bring people to Christ.

According to Lone Oak Sunday school teacher David Keele, “We’re doing two things here. One, we’re going to talk about the Second Amendment to bear arms. But that isn’t the primary thing. The primary thing is who Jesus is.” The only primary thing is that Keele and Kentucky Baptists lack even a rudimentary understanding of who Jesus was or why calling themselves Christians while crusading for 2nd Amendment rights makes them rank liars and anti-Christs for opposing Christ’s teaching.

The featured speaker at the Baptist gun giveaway was hired by Kentucky Southern Baptists as a traveling full-time evangelist who defended the Baptists giving away guns and said, “if giving away guns allows them to come into the doors of the church to hear that the church has a message that’s relevant to their lives, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that.” The paid evangelist wasted little time getting to the Christian message that is relevant to people’s lives and told other Christians that, “There’s no government on the face of this earth that has the right to take this gun from me” to thunderous applause. The evangelist even said he believed in Christ’s message of turning the other cheek, but only to a certain point; a certain point that cannot be found in any of Christ’s teachings.

The idea of Christian churches handing out guns, following the teachings of the NRA, and crusading for the 2nd Amendment is not restricted to Kentucky or Baptists. Other Christian denominations in other states regularly offer guns alongside bibles cementing their proud identity as “followers of Christ.” Christian churches handing out guns brings up a larger point regarding so-called Christians in this country; there are very few, if any, Christians in America. It is especially true of the Christian Right that supports any Republican candidate, conservative policies, or agenda founded on greed and inhumanity. It is highly likely the last American to adhere to Christ’s teachings was not a Christian by any stretch of the imagination, but he certainly understood the value in Christ’s moral teachings. Thomas Jefferson created his own rendering of Christ’s teachings after carefully removing every reference to Christ as a deity, miracle worker, or supernatural being in “The Jefferson Bible.

It is impossible for any American to support conservatives or Republicans and be a follower of Christ no matter how devoutly they claim Christianity as their religion. In fact, it is relatively safe to say that if a person calls themselves a Republican, teabagger, libertarian, or an independent and votes for Republican candidates and claim they are also Christians, they are pathological liars of the first order. It is utterly impossible to support any Republican policy and be a Christian, and yet they are the people most likely to claim their religious devotion to Christianity informs their support of conservatives in general and Republicans in particular.

Any Christian that supports the NRA or adheres to the 2nd amendment as the be all, end all defining trait of being an American, they are a liar and not remotely close to being a Christian. In fact, unless a so-called Christian lives in the wilderness and depends on hunting for survival, there is no reason to own a firearm if they subscribe to Christ’s teachings in the bible that all they need is faith that they will be resurrected by Christ after they die; even if they die at the hands of an armed intruder.

One often hears so-called Christians claim they adamantly support feeding, housing, and providing healthcare for the poor, and in the same breath claim their undying support for Republicans; they are liars. The same people vehemently claim they believe in, and support, the Constitution’s guarantee of equal rights for all Americans, and then vote for Republicans passing legislation restricting gay, women, and people of colors’ equal rights. Conservative Christians who oppose the federal government, taxation, and Constitutional prohibition on establishing religion are in violation of Christ’s admonition to pay taxes and obey government authority like a good slave. The list goes on and on, but the point is glaringly obvious; it is impossible to be a Christian and support Republicans on any level.

On a larger scale, it is a near-impossibility to find a so-called Christian of the conservative type that follows the bible they claim is the infallible word of god. It is true they have latched on to a couple of verses that fit their culture of hate, but it is a rare day indeed to hear even one conservative Christian cite one verse attributed to their avatar of light Jesus Christ. The so-called Christians are not even good Jews as part of their storied Judeo-Christian heritage. They worship graven idols like the cross their lord and savior was crucified on, swear allegiance to a symbol of objects in the sky and Earth (American flag), and violate the majority of the Ten Commandments they insist should replace the Constitution. However, it is their devotion and dedication to Republicans, guns, and a culture of greed and inhumanity that informs they are not Christians; they are anti-Christs.


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To: agere_contra

Romans Chap 13... It does say to pay your taxes and respect the leaders because they were put in their place by God. I have always had a hard time with that one.


21 posted on 06/17/2014 5:15:59 AM PDT by Mathews (Ecclesiastes 10:2 (NIV), Luke 22:36 (NIV))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hey... that’s MY tag line.


22 posted on 06/17/2014 5:16:31 AM PDT by Mathews (Ecclesiastes 10:2 (NIV), Luke 22:36 (NIV))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is amusing when those who are anti-Christian attempt to explain their version of the doctrine of Christianity to Christians as if that were what Christians should believe.


23 posted on 06/17/2014 5:16:41 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
but according to the Kentucky Baptist Convention, handing out human-killing weapons is the best way to get people into church.

Heck, when I was a little kid, our church raffle had a human killing machine as the top prize. It was called a Chevrolet.
24 posted on 06/17/2014 5:17:15 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If youÂ’re litigating against nuns, youÂ’ve probably done something wrong."-Ted Cruz)
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To: aumrl

Nope, but he inpsired word or God does tell us to pay our taxes in Romans 13.


25 posted on 06/17/2014 5:17:43 AM PDT by Mathews (Ecclesiastes 10:2 (NIV), Luke 22:36 (NIV))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

the overwhelming majority of religious conservative Americans hate everything Jesus Christ preached and taught,

Who are you to judge me?
To judge other Christians?
Do you know me? Do you know what I do and don’t do?
Of course not. You statements are not from a Christian point of view but from a political point of view.
They are there for meaningless.....


26 posted on 06/17/2014 5:18:38 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (I am an American Not a Republican or a Democrat.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rant Alert?
How about Extreme Hatred Alert? How about Mental Breakdown Alert? How about Danger Alert?
Wow. Sick, sick, sick.............


27 posted on 06/17/2014 5:26:21 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (I am an American Not a Republican or a Democrat.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
In the 1600s and 1700s, it was LAW that all citizens of Massachusetts bring their firearms to church each Sunday, and NO ONE was allowed to travel without firearms. A failure to do so brought fines or a scalping by Indians.
28 posted on 06/17/2014 5:39:52 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need more than seven rounds, Much more.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"...Christ’s teachings in the bible that all they need is faith that they will be resurrected by Christ after they die; even if they die at the hands of an armed intruder. "

I must have missed the sermon where He said just let anyone who wants to kill you kill you.
29 posted on 06/17/2014 5:44:28 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

The disciples said, “See, Lord, here are two swords.” “That’s enough!” he replied. Luke 22:38

Christ had just given his advice/parable for his followers to sell their cloaks and buy swords because he was ‘going away”. Note that his disciples already had 2 swords. Now what do you suppose ‘Peacenik Jesus’ and his band of swanky ‘peace advocate’ disciples were doing with swords? Hmmmmmmmm.

Maybe a little self defense at work here? A little talked about passage that raises a big obvious question! Is there scriptural justification for Christians to own weapons for their own self defense? It is an important question because it just might make the difference between the salvation of our republic verses being cut down in swaths like what is happening in Iraq!


30 posted on 06/17/2014 5:44:54 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Boo-yah!


31 posted on 06/17/2014 5:52:11 AM PDT by jimjohn (You don't get the kind of government you want, or the kind you need. You get the kind you deserve.)
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To: Mathews; All

Well then, by that logic, the Hebrew midwives who feared God and would not obey Pharoah’s law to kill the first born Hebrew male children were in violation of God’s law. Look at Christ’s admonition again very carefully and Roman’s 13 will become clear to you. “Render unto Ceasar the things that are Ceasar’s and render unto God the things that are God’s!”

The historical record is full of martyr’s who rendered to God what Ceasar demanded for himself(of those things that did not belong to Ceasar). In your heart of hearts, you know or can know what belongs to God and what belongs to Ceasar. A government can demand taxes but not to the point of open thievery where families can not be fed or loved ones supported. A government can demand that Citizens obey certain laws but not to the point of demanding open tolerance or practice of immorality or to the giving over to one’s children to abusive sexual teaching and abuse(Molech’s modern equivalent).

God’s laws are always higher than government laws and when government breaks those laws, an enlightened people must act to reign in that government lest God come and destroy both that government and the people!

One example: David was tempted and ordered that an illegal census be done of the people. (Now God wanted to punish the people for their inattentiveness toward him). When David did so, David was confronted and given a choice of punishments. The punishment chosen was a plague that was to fall upon the people. Now had the people been spiritually enlightened, they might have confronted David en mass to halt the Census and spare the nation punishment. As it was, David was stricken in his heart with guilt and interceded for the people by buying a property and building an altar and having a sacrifice done in repentance of his sin and for the salvation of his people.

Now I feel I have to issue a warning! We have the evil government we have now because the people have become inattentive to God and his Son. The old testament warns that God takes away the “natural wisdom of the princes” as a first step in punishing a nation if not destroying it. Only a repenting spiritual people have any hope of restoring a faltering nation...and it will have to be done pugnaciously to the point that if we must, we end up divided so that the righteous can live in freedom!

Can American Christians find the stomach for what may need to be done?


32 posted on 06/17/2014 6:21:53 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: agere_contra

This guy is certifiably nuts, as in, he should be locked up for public safety.

I think the left as a whole is coming off the hinges, be vigilant.


33 posted on 06/17/2014 6:47:43 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I just picked up a Marlin SBL in 45-70, I love it. Things go away when you pull the trigger lol.


34 posted on 06/17/2014 6:48:57 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: cripplecreek

He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.


35 posted on 06/17/2014 6:49:29 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: defconw

I’m well under 50 and an extremely strong in your face advocate of freedom. I wouldn’t make such a blanket statement.

Perhaps something such as, “I’m really sick of leftists and brain dead morons” would be more accurate.

Wait, that’s not accurate, it’s only redundant. Leftists and brain dead? Those two terms are interchangeable.


36 posted on 06/17/2014 6:51:04 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Mathews

Yes it does say that, but it also says unless they go against the word of God. You’re to obey God first.


37 posted on 06/17/2014 6:52:17 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

On any given Sunday 1/3 of our congregates are armed.


38 posted on 06/17/2014 6:53:44 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Traveling without firearms these days invites beheading and any and all other atrocities.

I’m about to drive across Canada to bring my wife and kids home. I’ll be bringing my 45-70. I don’t take chances, especially in Quebec, they hate anglophones.


39 posted on 06/17/2014 6:53:51 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Well that would cull out the dumbasses.


40 posted on 06/17/2014 6:54:14 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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