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Liberal's Solution to Border Crisis: Let Illegals Become 'State Citizens'
Breitbart's Texas ^ | June 19, 2014 | Kristin Tate

Posted on 06/19/2014 8:49:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Breitbart Texas reported on a proposed bill in New York that would allow more than 2 million illegal immigrants to get a myriad of benefits including voting rights, the ability to run for office, Medicaid, drivers licenses, and in-state tuition by allowing them to become "state citizens." A sponsor of that bill, State Senator Gustavo Rivera (D-Bronx), told Breitbart Texas he thinks states in the Southwest should consider similar legislation to deal with the border crisis involving thousands of Central Americans entering the country illegally.

The bill was crafted "so that it can be replicated in other states," Rivera said. "If immigration reform doesn't happen at the national level, the states can take action."

If Rivera's legislation were passed in New York, an estimated 2.7 million people, all of whom are not citizens of the United States, would become "state citizens." In order to qualify, an individual would need to have no criminal history and prove they have lived in New York for three years.

In order to introduce the bill, Rivera released a press release called, "Bold New Campaign Demands Full Equality for Non-Citizens."(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Local News; Politics
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; immigration; newyork; texas

1 posted on 06/19/2014 8:49:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

this just keeps on getting more off the wall by the hour.


2 posted on 06/19/2014 8:51:29 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My solution is to delcare war on Mexico, since they have on us, close the border militarlily and shoot to kill anyone crossing illegally.

Then tell the Mexican president to cease and desist or we’ll drop a small nuclear bomb in the heart of Mexico City.

Problem solved.


3 posted on 06/19/2014 8:54:59 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Conservatives are all that's left to defend the Constitution. Dems hate it, and Repubs don't care.)
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To: Fledermaus

You forgot: prosecute the Democrats and their weak sisters the RINOs


4 posted on 06/19/2014 8:56:44 PM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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To: Ray76

Yes...as traitors.


5 posted on 06/19/2014 8:57:57 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Conservatives are all that's left to defend the Constitution. Dems hate it, and Repubs don't care.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Einstein were right. The only thing that is infinite is human stupidity.

Look - admit right now that the border can never be fully closed. People are rather inventive when it comes to OUTA’ing obstacles. Still - closing it 99% is doable, and not at a huge cost. You are paying the army anyway - let them practice along the border.

Grab the aircraft carrier they just decommissioned, park it in the Gulf of Mexico and use it as a holding pen until you can send illegals back to their native land.

At the same time, make legal immigration a little easier and a little more relaxed. At the moment, it is a horrible mess of conflicting rules. Kill the idea of anchor babies for anyone other than legal immigrants. Maybe they have not completed all the hoops yet, but they are working on it. Any kid they have should be judged an American citizen.

Illegal? Congratulate the new parents on their way to their deportation flight.


6 posted on 06/19/2014 9:08:27 PM PDT by EC1
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I checked to see where State Senator Gustavo Rivera was born...

Puerto Rico so hes an American...


7 posted on 06/19/2014 9:16:41 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: EC1

“People are rather inventive when it comes to OUTA’ing obstacles. “

Let’s ask the Israelis.


8 posted on 06/19/2014 9:18:15 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Heck of a reset there, Hillary")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As a real immigrant I was quite content to wait until I was an American citizen...


9 posted on 06/19/2014 9:18:29 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: EC1

Any kid they have should be judged an American citizen.
____________________________________

they already are...

the children of real immigrants are American citizens at birth...

they just cant be president...


10 posted on 06/19/2014 9:20:48 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Oh, they know. Found another 15 tunnels already this year, I think - could be more. Sure, a couple of them are straightforward smuggling routes, but that can’t be hugely reassuring.


11 posted on 06/19/2014 9:21:36 PM PDT by EC1
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To: MeshugeMikey
this just keeps on getting more off the wall by the hour.

Yep. That's because their real agenda is being exposed. They want amnesty so that they can get the voters. They literally do not care how that happens - it is utterly irrelevent to them. They want the Democrat voters they assume these people will become.

Nothing but power for the sake of power. That is the Democrats.

12 posted on 06/19/2014 9:22:17 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Um, that is no longer the case.


13 posted on 06/19/2014 9:22:47 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: Tennessee Nana

Wrong.
Natural Born Citizen means Citizen at Birth.
Every Immigration Attorney in the Country agrees with me.
Every member of Congress agrees with me.
Every Judge in the Country agrees with me.
Every State Election Officer agrees with me.

There are only two types of US Citizen:
Naturalized or Natural Born


14 posted on 06/19/2014 9:23:49 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Of course, the NY Legislator is an idiot on the Constitution, as he has no authority at the State level to enact citizenship rules.


15 posted on 06/19/2014 9:26:10 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58

You didn’t say American citizen parents

you said legal immigrant

there is a difference...

If the child is born after both immigrant parents become American citizens then yes she is an NBC and she can be president...

If however she was born BEFORE the immigrant parents became American citizens while she is still an American citizen born herself she is NOT an NBC and therefore cannot be president...


16 posted on 06/19/2014 9:27:36 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This should be illegal, since they as members of that state would theoretically vote on “Federal” candidates?? If not it violates the spirit of the Constitution since our 17th Amendment would have originally allowed these supposed “state citizens” vote on state legislative races, who then in session in state legislatures would have picked FEDERAL legislators to the U.S. Senate! Treasonous, all. Democrats!


17 posted on 06/19/2014 9:29:49 PM PDT by JSDude1
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To: Tennessee Nana

Thank you Nana!

Is it formal? Things might have changed now, but a friend of mine gave birth in the US. A month or so early and unexpectedly, and the doctors and nurses were amazing. So were the church visitors who basically took her, her husband and their new arrival in hand and sorted a place to stay, baby clothes, friends. Nice people - they stay in touch and trade pictures :)

Yet because her child were born in the USA and registered there (paperwork mix up, they did ask for him to be registered at the embassy, not locally) he’s technically a US citizen now. Going to cause problems down the road for him. It were that easy to have an anchor baby.


18 posted on 06/19/2014 9:32:00 PM PDT by EC1
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Are “State Citizens” sort of like the Made In Montana firearms, exempt from federal laws such as NFA ‘34? Which for some reason are causing threats and conniptions from the federal government? The same government that’s pushing State Citizens?


19 posted on 06/19/2014 9:39:08 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: Tennessee Nana
If the child born here is indeed a citizen at the moment of birth then YES, that child can be President.

Now I do agree with many who hold that the “under the jurisdiction there of” portion of the 14th Amendment could be tweaked by Congress to disallow Citizenship for such a child. Congress does have the power to make and change citizenship rules.

However, under current law, if the child is a citizen at birth, the child is a Natural Born Citizen and can indeed be President.

I suggest you go to the US State Department Web Page and pull up an application for US Passport. You will find links there, to all valid US Citizenship laws and the dates in which those laws applied.

“Natural Born Citizen” means “Citizen at Birth” and absolutely, positively NOTHING else.

20 posted on 06/19/2014 9:43:12 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58

today there was an illegal alien baby born to an illegal alien woman who just happened to be strolling through our southern border heavily in labor..

her son was born in America therefore...

so is her an American citizen ???

is he an NBC ???

can he be president even though his parents were not under the jurisdiction of but his mother was busy breaking the law and sneering at our sovereignty ???


21 posted on 06/19/2014 9:50:55 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Kansas58

but you probably wont have to wait that long to have an illegal alien president..

the parents of the Castro twins the mayor and the congressman are illegal aliens...


22 posted on 06/19/2014 9:53:38 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana
Again, Congress can and should try to codify the “under the jurisdiction there of” portion of the 14th Amendment to show that such a child might not be under the jurisdiction of the US. What if the parents get divorced for instance? Who has jurisdiction over custody?
So in short, I agree that it is a bad situation, and I do think that a conservative Congress could help make some changes. My Senator, Jerry Moran, has proposed that Congress codify the “under jurisdiction there of” portion of the 14th Amendment.

Having said that, if the child you speak of was indeed a Citizen at birth? YES, that child is eligible to be President.

Only non-citizens and Naturalized citizens are excluded.

23 posted on 06/19/2014 9:55:09 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Anything to keep a permanent and growing underclass of eligible Dhimmicrap voters.


24 posted on 06/19/2014 9:57:07 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Great idea -— let’s just send all the illegals from all the other states to New York!!!


25 posted on 06/19/2014 9:59:24 PM PDT by LTC.Ret (You'd think I would know better than to volunteer!!! www.sendmetocongress.us)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Dear Oberfurher Andrew Cuomo
and lackey-apparent, State Senator Gustavo Rivera (D-Bronx),
Since we are talking about free tuition for non-citizens, illegal immigrants in NY
Please be advised that my daughter :
was born in New York State
was educated through high school in New York State, (for which I paid village taxes, county taxes , and State taxes for over 14 years)
paid college tuition (for 4 years : to the tune of $32,000.oo)
and went to a private college graduate School
and after UNSUCCESSFULLY looking for full-time employment as a teacher in New York State, she had to re-locate to California .

I am now looking forward to a REFUND of tuition paid in the amount of $32,000.oo, since you are now offering it free to ILLEGAL , UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS !!
Please note - this does not include any interest on principle, as CHARITY BEGINS AT HOME , before ILLEGAL ALIENS !!
Thank you for your attention to this matter ... you BUll-$HITTER !!

26 posted on 06/19/2014 10:04:08 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Political Correctness is Tyranny .. with manners ! Charlton Heston)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

.... Our American president .... Is not a friend of America!


27 posted on 06/19/2014 10:10:28 PM PDT by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

28 posted on 06/19/2014 10:37:13 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: MeshugeMikey

This is what the South did by importing slaves. These state benefits are federally funded by the way.


29 posted on 06/19/2014 10:56:48 PM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Uh, no.


30 posted on 06/19/2014 11:10:23 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Article IV Section 2 says that the citizens of a state have all the privileges and immunities as citizens of all the states.

New York would be making illegal aliens into national citizens. They don't have that power.

-PJ

31 posted on 06/19/2014 11:23:09 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They already are “state citizens”. If they want to vote as bad as the commie lib ‘RATS think they do, send them back home with instructions on how to elect less evil politicians.


32 posted on 06/19/2014 11:41:46 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is not the job of the states! Where the hell is Eric the Holder and his lawsuit boys? This is the federal government’s job that the commie libs are trying to do.


33 posted on 06/19/2014 11:43:38 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: Fledermaus

Gosh — that’s exactly what I’ve been thinking of all week!


34 posted on 06/20/2014 2:24:31 AM PDT by SatinDoll (A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN IS BORN IN THE US OF US CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

It would seem the Supreme Court has decided NBC isn’t relevant any longer...


35 posted on 06/20/2014 3:31:08 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It would be a great experiment and would take some of the pressure off of Texas and Arizona. It will make NY the magnet for all illegal aliens. We will get to see the damage that would be done in a single state instead of risking the entire nation. That is the very purpose of Federalism.


36 posted on 06/20/2014 5:31:15 AM PDT by gspurlock (http://www.backyardfence.wordpress.com)
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To: lavaroise

Why were all not yet “ on the streets” marching towards Washington escapes me at the moment.


37 posted on 06/20/2014 5:57:39 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: Talisker

absolute power corrupts absolutely, and they are absolutely wrong if they think they can pull this off with the biggest firestorm imaginable frying them all.


38 posted on 06/20/2014 5:59:09 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: EC1

either we are a Nation of LAW or we are a Nation of peasants and “masters”.

a little leaven has spoiled the whole loaf......

This may e a blessing in disguise as it MAY finally awaken the sleeping giant of American Moral Outrage..and inspire the vast majority of us to demand that the borders are policed. and the existing laws followed.


39 posted on 06/20/2014 6:02:45 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: MeshugeMikey

I do sometimes wonder, now. It seems lip service to the law, but in practice it is shut up and eat your gruel.


40 posted on 06/20/2014 6:42:56 AM PDT by EC1
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To: All





Fellow Texans, keep burning up the faxes, emails and phones at the governor’s office and the offices of your representatives!

Ask what they intend to do about the massive invasion of illegal aliens into Texas, bringing crime, disease, drugs and unbelievable expense to the state to care for them.

This is sheer insanity!

HOUSTON, Texas—Governor Rick Perry (R-TX) appeared on Fox News’ Fox and Friends show and said Texas lacks the resources and manpower to secure the 1,200 mile Texas border... BS!

Other Texas elected officials, speaking on condition of anonymity have told Breitbart Texas that Texas does, in fact, have the resources to conduct not only a surge operation, but a prolonged border control operation that would secure the Texas border with Mexico.

Now, Perry says he will do something. I'll believe it when I see it.

DO N'T LET THE MUZZIE GET AWAY WITH HIS CLOWARD-PIVEN SCHEME! DON'T LET HIM DESTROY TEXAS.

View on www.breitbart.com http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Texas/2014/06/17/Perry-on-Fox-We-don-t-have-the-resources-to-secure-the-Texas-Border http://www.governor.state.tx.us/contact/

Telephone Information and Referral Hotline [for Texas callers] : (800) 843-5789

Information and Referral and Opinion Hotline [for Austin, Texas and out-of-state callers] : (512) 463-1782

Office of the Governor Main Switchboard [office hours are 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. CST]- (512) 463-2000

Citizen’s Assistance Telecommunications Device If you are using a telecommunication device for the deaf (TDD)- call 711 to reach Relay Texas

Mailing Address- Office of the Governor P.O. Box 12428 Austin, Texas 78711-2428

SIGN THE PETITION!!!!!

http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/request-for-immediate-texas-border-control/sign.html

Request for Immediate Texas Border Control

We, the undersigned, because the federal government has failed to act, call on the Texas Legislature to develop and fund a border and port of entry security plan utilizing state and local law...

On the TX member’s Action Board - a link to fax Perry and phone call to make to your R Reps supporting Rep Louie Gohmert’s Fortify the Border Amendment.

You have to be registered at NumbersUSA....it’s worth joining for all of the faxes you can send to your elected officials. These are good guys, who’ve been fighting the good fight for YEARS.

Additionally, anyone can call Perry and anyone can ask their Rep to support Gohmert's amendment.





41 posted on 06/20/2014 7:10:31 AM PDT by patriot08 (NATIVE TEXAN (girl type))
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To: MeshugeMikey

If people started merely protesting by merely throwing their tv in the trash and buying exclusively guns and ammo with their earnings, we would not need a march. But too many lemmings with vanity.


42 posted on 06/20/2014 3:54:25 PM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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