Posted on 06/25/2014 7:42:58 AM PDT by marktwain
Two principals in widely separated states tried to use police against parents with gun permits. Both principals ended up on the losing side, when the parents refused to fold, and took them to court. In the most recent case, the principal at Stratton Elementary School in Massachusetts contacted police after the father showed the principal his gun permit. The father had come to talk to the principal about a drawing the son had made. From whdh.com:
The principal said the boy had drawn a phallic symbol, but 40-year-old Robert Goodwin said his son had actually drawn a gun similar to one he’d seen in ‘Despicable Me.’The police charge Goodwin with threatening the principal, suspended his gun permit, and confiscated a rifle from his home:
Goodwin then reportedly took out his gun permit and the principal notified police.
Officers later went to his home where they took away a hunting rifle; his gun license has also been suspended.Under oath, the principal admitted that he did not feel threatened, and the charges were dropped. There is no mention of whether the rifle was returned or the gun permit restored.
When questioned under oath, the principal told a clerk magistrate he did not feel threatened.By itself, this is an interesting story: A principal using the police to harass a gun owner. It reminded me of another story out of Georgia that had a similar theme. In it, the principal had contacted the police to ban the parent from school because she had a picture of her carry permit on her facebook page. From ljreview.com:
In what I’d call a severe case of overreacting, Army veteran Tanya Mount was banned from her disabled daughter’s elementary school after she posted a photo of her concealed weapons permit online.
The mother, who often volunteered at the school, said she was approached by a police officer near campus one day and warned that Principal Janina Dallas had filed a “no trespass order” against Mount.Tanya Mount transferred her daughter to a different school. The principal later claimed that the permit was not the reason for banning Ms. Mount from the school. A settlement was reached in which the school paid $1,000 and legal fees, according to wrdw.com:
Tanya Mount said she'll receive $1,000 and an undisclosed amount for legal expenses.Taken separately, these two cases might be dismissed as odd incidents. Together they reinforce the idea of schools as intolerant, politically correct bastions of citizen disarmament orthodoxy. How many of these cases exist, where the victim with the permit did not have the courage or wherewithal to fight the system in the courts? How many of these cases never make the news, because most police have more sense? I would appreciate any information about other cases.
People who don’t homeschool are like people who vacation in Mexico. Wake up!
This is one of many reasons why you shouldn’t advertise you carry or have a carry permit. Keep it to yourself if for no other reason than that it’s always a big advantage to have surprise on your side.
If I had a dime for every time a drew a phallic symbol, I’d have a whole lot of dimes.
i am sorry but, why in the world does anybody other than liberals who cannot afford private school send their children to government school? for the life of me, i do not get it... i do not know if those parents with gun permits in this story are conservative, but if they are—well, you send your kids to government school, you have to deal with government employees... and most of them are against the very things you are for...
i agree... i do not want anyone to know whether or not i have firearms... if i have one, i do not want anyone to know... if i do not have one, i do not want anyone to know...
i agree... i do not want anyone to know whether or not i have firearms... if i have one, i do not want anyone to know... if i do not have one, i do not want anyone to know...
plus—the parent is crazy to have her FB so public that the school principal can access her wall...
Keep it to yourself if for no other reason than that it’s always a big advantage to have surprise on your side.
OTOH, I’ll bet the guy that ended up dead in a theater would not have thrown popcorn on the guy if he had known he was carrying.
An armed society is a polite society.
Bears repeating.
I know, right? It's like the abused female who shouts, "I'm leaving you!" to her abuser, and then gets beaten or shot.
Yes, homeschool or put your kid in private school. The public school system is a cesspool.
I live in Oklahoma, where we have open carry. My first thought in considering whether or not to throw popcorn on someone open carrying isn’t whether or not he’ll shoot me. That’s not about “politeness.”
This is my rifle, this is my gun; one is for killing, the other is for fun.
Aren’t all guns phallic symbols?
My first thought in considering whether or not to throw popcorn on someone open carrying isn’t whether or not he’ll shoot me. That’s not about “politeness.”
And not throwing popcorn is more polite than throwing popcorn. So the overt presence of a gun reduces (but doesn’t eliminate, if you have brass ones) the amount of impolite behavior.
FWIW, this is one reason I KNOW George Zimmerman didn’t start the physical stuff with Martin. The guy without a gun is the guy who escelates physically. And that is impolite.
In that situation... hard to imagine, but I'm trying here... my first thought would be "What am I, some kind of moron?" and I discard the impulse out of hand.
I instructed my son to let me know the instant anyone at his school asks him if we have firearms. Or anything else for that matter.
Fascist bastards.
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