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Six Californias proposed inititive - details and map
See body of thread for links | June 28, 2014

Posted on 06/28/2014 3:58:53 PM PDT by EveningStar

Six Californias is a proposed initiative by venture capitalist Tim Draper to split California into six states: Jefferson, North California, Silicon Valley, Central California, West California, and South California.

The topic has been covered extensively at Free Republic. You can find the other threads here.

The purpose of this thread is to give some details of this proposed initiative.


The state of Jefferson would be created from the far north part of California, bordering Oregon, and would consist of fourteen counties: Butte, Colusa, Del Norte, Glenn, Humboldt, Lake, Lassen, Mendocino, Modoc, Plumas, Siskiyou, Shasta, Tehama, and Trinity.

The state of North California would be south of Jefferson spanning from the Pacific Ocean to Nevada. North California would consist of thirteen counties: Amador, El Dorado, Marin, Napa, Nevada, Placer, Sacramento, Sierra, Solano, Sonoma, Sutter, Yolo and Yuba. Silicon Valley

The state of Silicon Valley would span the coastline from San Francisco to Monterey. It would consist of eight counties: Alameda, Contra Costa, San Benito, San Francisco, San Mateo, Santa Clara, Santa Cruz and Monterey.

The state of Central California would be between Silicon Valley and Nevada. It would consist of the fourteen counties north of Los Angeles and south of Sacramento: Alpine, Calaveras, Fresno, Inyo, Kern, Kings, Madera, Mariposa, Merced, Mono, San Joaquin, Stanislaus, Tulare and Tuolumne.

The state of West California would be south of Silicon Valley and Central California, and west of San Bernardino County. It would consist of four counties: Santa Barbara, San Luis Obispo, Los Angeles and Ventura.

The state of South California would be made up of the southernmost part of the state. It would consist of five counties: Imperial, Orange, Riverside, San Bernardino and San Diego.

Source: Wikipedia




TOPICS: Business/Economy; Politics
KEYWORDS: california; sixcalifornias; timdraper

1 posted on 06/28/2014 3:58:53 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Slings and Arrows

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2 posted on 06/28/2014 3:59:55 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar
Ventura county, moderately conservative, would still be overwhelmed by the massive illegal alien population of LA county. That Silicon Valley is a cesspool of liberals anyway.

The rest would be interesting, and maybe a great way to kill the outsize influence of liberals in LA and SF.

3 posted on 06/28/2014 4:04:41 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: doorgunner69

It’s not going to happen, you know. :)


4 posted on 06/28/2014 4:06:53 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Sounds good as long as they all share two senators.


5 posted on 06/28/2014 4:07:44 PM PDT by all the best
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6 posted on 06/28/2014 4:07:45 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

It would be interesting when half of the state of South California is driving to West California to work everyday.


7 posted on 06/28/2014 4:09:04 PM PDT by Yogafist
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To: EveningStar

Where would Brown bed down ?


8 posted on 06/28/2014 4:09:45 PM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: EveningStar
Of course not, for the same reason SF and LA control the rest of the state now.

Likely many in NY state would love to split NYC off and kill it's influence on the rest of them.

9 posted on 06/28/2014 4:11:20 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: EveningStar

Not
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To
Happen


10 posted on 06/28/2014 4:16:17 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("The Arab Spring is over. Welcome to the Jihadi Spring." Jonah Goldberg)
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To: NonValueAdded

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11 posted on 06/28/2014 4:18:52 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Pipe Dream!


12 posted on 06/28/2014 4:21:41 PM PDT by DocJhn
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To: all the best
Sounds good as long as they all share two senators.

Exactly, isn't the whole point of this so the Dems can get 12 senators in place of 2 now?

OK, then let's split Texas into 10 new states.


13 posted on 06/28/2014 4:39:19 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: EveningStar

Interesting... would the six Californias have better senators than DiFi and Boxer?


14 posted on 06/28/2014 4:42:08 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: EveningStar

Maybe the state of “Jefferson” would elect 2 RINO US Senators?

Unfortunately, we will get 10 Democrat US Senators from the other 5 “states.”

Yeah, that sounds like a great plan.

How about 6 new COUNTRIES out of California?

Then we might be able to postpone the Marxist takeover of the rest of America for another 10 years.


15 posted on 06/28/2014 4:55:41 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: EveningStar

I’d be all for it if my County (San Benito) were in Central California. The way this is drawn...I’d have to vote this down...now way I want to have my home in a Silicon Valley Socialist Republic.


16 posted on 06/28/2014 4:56:19 PM PDT by The Unknown Republican
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To: ExCTCitizen

It would be better off for conservatives in the senate than now. Now, for perpetuity, all ca senators will be liberal, corrupt, and possibly stupid. Forever.

In this scenario, about 50% of the senators will either be conservative or at least populist / small government.

50% is better than zero percent.

The big question is the electoral college. The former “California” would then have any representation in the presidency. Now no voter to the right of center does.

Another huge difference will be the new states who FIGHT against illegal aliens overrunning. They won’t have to lose to a fully lib controlled legislature. Even the Central Valley will be able to institute migrant worker policies that make sense.

All in all, it would be better. Though I don’t exactly know how owning property in a liberal stronghold state will fare. How much does having the ocean and weather on your side help, when the taxation will be so high and the other obstacles continue?


17 posted on 06/28/2014 5:04:18 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: EveningStar

I think the folks pushing this idea fancy that two of the new states would be reliably Democrat, two reliably Republican and two toss-ups (both as regards the Senate and Electoral College), figuring that this could get the needed approval from Congress.

I score it as one reliably Republican, two reliably Democrat and three toss-ups. It would definitely be a net boon for the right in Presidential elections, but the effect on Congress would be more dubious.


18 posted on 06/28/2014 5:04:52 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: The_Reader_David
I score it as one reliably Republican, two reliably Democrat and three toss-ups. It would definitely be a net boon for the right in Presidential elections, but the effect on Congress would be more dubious.

I think I agree with you here — though, let's be honest with ourselves, there is no functional difference between Democrat and Republican at the Federal level. (Seriously: John McCain? Romney!?)

In that sense it's a terrible idea, giving the Uniparty 10 more senators.

I think the folks pushing this idea fancy that two of the new states would be reliably Democrat, two reliably Republican and two toss-ups (both as regards the Senate and Electoral College), figuring that this could get the needed approval from Congress.

I think that's how they'd push it; to keep the kabuki theater going they need to be able to push the idea that the GOP is looking out for some of its interests — as it is they're losing droves and droves because people are coming to their senses and refusing to vote just for the (R).

19 posted on 06/28/2014 5:24:26 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: EveningStar

Dang! I was hoping my Ventura County would escape LA!


20 posted on 06/28/2014 5:35:33 PM PDT by Moonmad27 ("I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way." Jessica Rabbit)
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To: EveningStar

Anyone proposing statehood with a name like Silicon Valley is not serious.

So this is some kind of PR stunt.


21 posted on 06/28/2014 6:14:04 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: doorgunner69; EveningStar

The rest would be interesting, and maybe a great way to kill the outsize influence of liberals in LA and SF.
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With the majority of the US States being red in color, there is no way CA would be allowed to split like that and ADD 10 more Senators.


22 posted on 06/28/2014 11:57:17 PM PDT by octex
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To: Yaelle

True...I know the red areas of CA is the eastern, northern and Palm Springs area, so it should have some right of center elected. Where would the state Capitol for Jefferson be? Susanville? Or Yweka ( if I spelled it correctly).


23 posted on 06/29/2014 3:14:23 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: EveningStar

I agree with this idea.

Unsure what the voters will say, but I’m 100% in favor of this.

California has far too big a population, for just one state.


24 posted on 06/29/2014 3:22:01 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: ExCTCitizen

No, way up top in Jefferson it would be bleeding heart Eco libs probably. Please correct me if I am wrong. The ones with right of center senators and possibly congresspeople would be central ca, southern ca, and northern ca. All the eastern most ones.

IMO there would be a lot of to the right Hispanic candidates, maybe some Vietnamese too. I think some of those new states would be the perfect places for a right of center ethnic candidate to get all kinds of crossover votes.

I wish it would happen.


25 posted on 06/29/2014 3:53:12 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

I’d like to see it...


26 posted on 06/29/2014 4:05:46 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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