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Since the two state solution for Israel is moribund, here are some other ideas
Dan Miller's Blog ^ | August 2, 2014 | Dan Miller

Posted on 08/02/2014 1:42:51 PM PDT by DanMiller

It has been claimed, correctly for now, that the "two state" solution for Israel's problems with Islamists is dead.

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The general feeling seems to be that as long as Hamas remains in power in Gaza, the "two state" solution, much praised by the Obama Administration and many others, won't work. It won't, because Hamas (Nancy Pelosi and her friends in Qatar to the contrary notwithstanding) has long been and remains a terror organization devoted to the obliteration of Israel.

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Iran, the Muslim Brotherhood, Turkey and Qatar favor Hamas' objectives. Israel disagrees with them. Unlike Islamists, Israel prefers life to death.

Three years ago, Andrew Klavan suggested a one state solution. Here is his plan:

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Unfortunately, Mr. Klavan's plan won't work either: the Islamist nations surrounding Israel wouldn't allow it even to get a start, because they want to remain sovereign and generally independent. Leaving that obstacle aside however, Israel is the region's only free and democratic nation. Since all would become citizens of Israel and have the right to vote, Israeli politics and Judaism would be overwhelmed by Islamists. They would easily override Jewish objections and impose Shari law along with all of its anti-freedom and misogynist religious doctrines on Israel. That would be fatal for Israel, but less bad for her Islamic neighbors.

Here's a better idea, but it won't work either:

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Perhaps the Palestinians could simply be shipped to Honduras, given refugee status and flown to the United States. They wouldn't even to leave their prayer rugs behind at the border.

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During the Obama family vacation this month, many of them could live in the White House and, when it returns to Washington, the Obama family could reside in the Blair House. Perhaps the rest of Hamas could be housed, fed and supported by former House Speaker Pelosi and her colleagues in appreciation of their humanitarian services. They would fit right into Obama's America.  


TOPICS: Government; Humor; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: hamas; israel; obama; pelosi

1 posted on 08/02/2014 1:42:52 PM PDT by DanMiller
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To: DanMiller

Offer the Palestinians in Gaza billions to move to the West Bank and allow Israel to have Gaza. Billions backed with tanks and Apache helicopters.


2 posted on 08/02/2014 1:46:11 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: DanMiller
Perhaps the Palestinians could simply be shipped to Honduras, given refugee status and flown to the United States. They wouldn’t even (need? stop?) to leave their prayer rugs behind at the border. …
Sure . . . what could possibly beat a free ride to the Great Satan’s doorstep?
3 posted on 08/02/2014 1:47:43 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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4 posted on 08/02/2014 1:48:30 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: GeronL

You know as well as any what happens to “billions” when “Palestinians” get hold of it.


5 posted on 08/02/2014 1:48:34 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

True, but the carrot and stick and all that. Sure you will probably get kicked by the mule but he will eventually get to where you want him.


6 posted on 08/02/2014 1:52:14 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

“Offer the Palestinians in Gaza billions to move to the West Bank and allow Israel to have Gaza.”

I’m not an expert on the West Bank, but wouldn’t they just start shooting and tunneling from there, if that’s where they relocated?


7 posted on 08/02/2014 1:53:08 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Olog-hai

I like the One State solution better. Chum the coastal waters off Gaza and bring in the bulldozer.


8 posted on 08/02/2014 1:54:56 PM PDT by spawn44 (MOO)
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To: DanMiller

Re-Estabish the Kingdom of King David


9 posted on 08/02/2014 1:58:49 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: GeronL

Don’t mistake snakes for mules.


10 posted on 08/02/2014 2:04:02 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: BobL

No sea coast for one and Israel has just as much ability to pound the West Bank as Gaza.


11 posted on 08/02/2014 2:05:53 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL
San Fran could easily handle 2 million Palis. Look at the population density of SF's ChinaTown and follow suit.

Problem solved.

12 posted on 08/02/2014 2:13:58 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: DanMiller

Good grief, don’t send the Palestinians to the Americas.

I say make them pay war reparations to Israel, and let life become so miserable in palestine that they leave. Perhaps some clandestine operations could be set up to lure them to other locations well away from Israel.


13 posted on 08/02/2014 2:25:40 PM PDT by DannyTN (I)
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To: DanMiller

I say let Jordan cede some dirt for the Palestinians. I hear the East Bank is lovely this time of year.


14 posted on 08/02/2014 3:12:22 PM PDT by kpbruinfan ("Time, if nothing else, will do its worst so do me a favor and tell me the good news first." - Peart)
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To: DanMiller
Raze Gaza, give any Palestinian in the land the right to become an Israeli citizen as long their renounce terrorist activities .....

The ones who refuse...ship them to whatever Muslim country will take them...or jail them...

Here's a hint: the Arab world considers Palestinians basically third class citizens right below their camels and women...

15 posted on 08/02/2014 3:19:35 PM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: DanMiller

Move the Egyptian and Jordanian Arabs (aka, so-called “Palestinians”) to their ancestral homeland of Saudi Arabia, where there’s PLENTY of land and their Muslim brothers will give them the hospitality Islam is famous for.


16 posted on 08/02/2014 3:24:48 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Ob)
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To: Popman

The last thing Israel needs to to have Muslims out vote the jews and turn Israel into another Muzzie hell hole.


17 posted on 08/02/2014 3:25:48 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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Caroline Glick:
A realistic alternative to the failed “Two-State Solution”
(With Q&A)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4Ki_C8JKzA


18 posted on 08/02/2014 3:40:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: GeronL
The last thing Israel needs to to have Muslims out vote the jews and turn Israel into another Muzzie hell hole.

Even if you take all the Muslims in Gaza and the West Bank, Jews will still outnumber Muslims...in Israel..

Not by much...

My point is there are already 100,000's Israel Arabs living in Israel and by giving Palestinians a taste of freedom, liberty and democracy, I think many will like to live in peace and security...and stop being tools of the terrorists

19 posted on 08/02/2014 3:41:10 PM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: GeronL

Population breakdown
Gaza: 1,816,379 Muslims
West Bank: 2,676,740 Muslims
Israel:
Jews: 6,119,000
Arabs: 1,688,600


20 posted on 08/02/2014 3:46:56 PM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: GeronL

“No sea coast for one and Israel has just as much ability to pound the West Bank as Gaza.”

True on the coast, but the border with Jordan is still there...and given this president, there’s no assurance that ISIS won’t hit up Jordan next.

But it does get them all in one place, at least.


21 posted on 08/02/2014 3:49:55 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Popman

better to expel them all to the West Bank and recognize it as Palestine.


22 posted on 08/02/2014 3:50:20 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: DanMiller

There already is a Palestinian state and it’s called Jordan. 80% of the Palies in Gaza and the West Bank have family there. Evict every last one of them to Jordan and the problem is solved.

And if they get out of line the king can slaughter them enmasse and the world won’t say jack about it since they know Muzzies slaughtering Muzzies is a very common thing.


23 posted on 08/02/2014 8:07:09 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: BobL
“Offer the Palestinians in Gaza billions to move to the West Bank and allow Israel to have Gaza.”
I’m not an expert on the West Bank, but wouldn’t they just start shooting and tunneling from there, if that’s where they relocated?

Quit thinking like an informed rational adult.

The sandmaggot-lovers will accuse you of racism, for suggesting that past behavior is a certain indicator of future terrorist behavior.

24 posted on 08/02/2014 11:06:09 PM PDT by publius911 ( Politicians come and go... but the (union) bureaucracy lives and grows forever.)
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To: Popman
My point is there are already 100,000's Israel Arabs living in Israel and by giving Palestinians a taste of freedom, liberty and democracy, I think many will like to live in peace and security...and stop being tools of the terrorists

Perhaps after you study history a bit more seriously and thoroughly, and get thru Jr. high school, you might have a more realistic view of the 'Palestinian' problem.

Start by reading From Time Immemorial, by Joan Peters, all of it, including the 150+ pages of official Turkish documentation references. Then get back to us.

Good luck.

25 posted on 08/02/2014 11:15:36 PM PDT by publius911 ( Politicians come and go... but the (union) bureaucracy lives and grows forever.)
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To: Popman
Population breakdown
Gaza: 1,816,379 Muslims
West Bank: 2,676,740 Muslims
Israel:
Jews: 6,119,000
Arabs: 1,688,600

HEY!
You forgot to list the number of Jews in the West Bank and Gaza!

I do realize that some really important extenuating circumstances are easy to overlook.

26 posted on 08/02/2014 11:20:38 PM PDT by publius911 ( Politicians come and go... but the (union) bureaucracy lives and grows forever.)
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To: Popman

The Arabs in Israel side more with Hamas than Israel


27 posted on 08/02/2014 11:28:52 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
There already is a Palestinian state and it’s called Jordan. 80% of the Palies in Gaza and the West Bank have family there. Evict every last one of them to Jordan and the problem is solved.

Clearly, some brainiacs on this thread are not familiar with the evolution of Israel from the original Balfour Declaration.

How the Jewish homeland shrank to I/13th of its originally intended size after the British discovered oil in the region.
That changed everything.

28 posted on 08/03/2014 12:29:01 AM PDT by publius911 ( Politicians come and go... but the (union) bureaucracy lives and grows forever.)
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To: publius911

The area that is currently Israel and Jordan comprised Palestine. Everything west of the Jordan River is western Palestine and everything east of it is eastern Palestine.

How did the discovery of oil in the Sinai changed everything? Israel gave that away to the Egyptians.


29 posted on 08/03/2014 5:54:03 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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