Posted on 06/04/2016 12:25:08 PM PDT by DrDude
Anyone have any thoughts on the IT guy who ran Hillary's Server? I always thought something was wrong and mentioned it several times. Agreement to assist the FBI? No testimony required. No details of what he has done or said to FBI. Clinton doesn't appear to be concerned and the guy is still alive. Sounds more fishy than V. Foster's suicide. Maybe Judge Sullivan knows something. Maybe JW knows something and informed the Judge in the briefs. Seems very last minute. Just like Mills avoiding videotaped deposition at the very last moment. Is this going to happen for each witness?
No melanin immunity for the IT guy either.
Others have tried to obtain lists of STATE Contractors and have been rebuffed. Is the IT guy still on payroll? Are they still distributing the $6Billion they stole.
I have always thought, not that I am a lawyer, that an immunity agreement or grant is conditioned on full testimony from a grantee. If he’s been granted immunity then he doesn’t get to hide behind the 5th. AFAIK. But that ain’t probative.
Not sure what that means?
I’ve been wondering how can he exercise his Fifth Amendment right to avoid self-incriminating testimony when the immunity agreement precludes any legal jeopardy for him?
I believe you are correct but only in the case at hand. This is a separate matter brought by JW. Clinton’s lawyers have been hammering that point the entire time. Judge Sullivan is looking for the Red Herring.
“”Are they still distributing the $6Billion they stole?””
That’s probably in or on the way to the Clinton Fraud Foundation.
I’ve been following Judge Andrew Napolitano’s take on this. The FBI had to get the Justice Department and a Federal Judge to agree to give Pagliano immunity. That means he had to convince them that he could give them somebody higher on the chain. Presumably that somebody is Hillary Clinton. It is to his advantage to confess every crime he was involved in to the FBI as, typically, once he has nothing he said can be used against him, but only against others. In the civil case he pleaded the fifth. The judge called bull sh*t and ordered him to produce his agreement. The judge will review it and depending on what he finds, may order Pagliano to talk or else.
I don’t know why Pagliano would attempt to get out of the civil trial testimony unless he can somehow be sued for his role. His immunity would only be against criminal prosecution, not civil suits. This will be a fascinating episode to watch.
As Yogi used to say, “It ain’t over til its over”.
Actually, its 2 cases.....
Pagliano got the immunity for ANOTHER deposition.
The judge in this case wants to see what those term are.
Obama will pardon Clinton. But that is problematic in that dozens of people are complicit. Considering that each classified email can be a single offense, then there is a lot of jail time for a lot of people. I imagine the DOJ is going to hand B. Hussein Obama a list of people to pardon.
This is a separate legal proceeding. Immunity in one proceeding may not translate in to immunity in other proceedings. (Not a lawyer here...)
The lawsuit by Judicial Watch is FOIA. There's no penalty for Pagliano, unless he wants to run for federal office.
I think Pagliano is justifiably worried that something he says in the deposition will conflict with his immunity agreement he has with the FBI: either contradicts it, or additional information he didn't "volunteer" to the FBI.
One other possiblity: the FBI wants Pagliano to take the 5th. Otherwise, Clinton and other potential targets for indictment may learn what Pagliano told the FBI, giving them the chance to change their story.
“One other possiblity: the FBI wants Pagliano to take the 5th. Otherwise, Clinton and other potential targets for indictment may learn what Pagliano told the FBI, giving them the chance to change their story. “
I think we have a winner!
His immunity agreement is for the investigation as to what happened with the server. This proceeding is in relation to the Judicial Watch FOIA suit.
Yup, Bill Cosby is learning that the hard way.
He thought he had immunity by admitting to other rapes in a civil case deposition. But, the DA is now using that testimony for a CRIMINAL case.
Yup. Many thanks for the clarification.
See post 17 for how that may work in reality...
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