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Women in the Combat Arms: The Greatest Disaster in US Military History
US Defense Watch ^ | June 4, 2016 | Ray Starmann

Posted on 06/04/2016 8:10:27 PM PDT by pboyington

Operation You Go Girl is destined to fail; failure defined not as a NO GO, or an F, but as the nation’s young women flown home in flag draped Glad Bags when the nation loses the next war(s). When this happens, the Hollywood producers, the feminists and the cultural Marxists who were responsible for forcing the nation’s women to experience the horrors of ground combat will scratch their heads and wonder why reality is so much different from their imaginary ideas of women in combat.

Think about this: US defense policy is now being run on a fantasy propagated by Hollywood, feminists and cultural Marxists.

Hollywood created the fantasy of the rough and tough, hard charging female cop. On any given night, on any given network, you can watch an anorexic 95 pound model, turned NYPD detective brandish a pistol larger than her waist and proceed to karate chop and cuff and stuff a myriad of male heavyweight thugs with the imaginary aplomb of Chuck Norris on all night POW camp raid.

Goodbye Popeye Doyle…

Unfortunately, real war is much different than a Demi Moore movie. A battlefield is not gender neutral. On a battlefield the roughest, toughest sons of bitches win the fight. What remains of the losers are picked at by ravens or fade away like dust in the wind.

Unfortunately, the Pentagon, the White House and Congress are no longer living in reality.

Simply put, the authorization in December 2015 to allow women to serve in the combat arms (infantry, armor, cavalry, artillery) and special operations forces (SEALs, Green Berets, Rangers, Delta Force, Marine Raiders) of the US armed forces is the greatest disaster in US military history.

The defenders of this insanity will say that women have been in combat in Iraq and Afghanistan so what’s the big deal? Returning fire when your convoy is attacked or defending yourself during a military police security operation is different than being in a unit with the sole mission of killing the enemy and seizing and holding ground. It’s like comparing peddling a beach cruiser to racing in the Tour de France.

The social engineers will cry that the standards will remain the same. Horse dung and hay: the standards were already warped so that the three females could graduate from Ranger School. They had months of special training, nutritionists, endless chances to repeat the course, etc. Ninety-nine percent of the women in the world simply cannot meet the male physical standards of the combat arms and special operations units. No amount of estrogen charged You Go Girl battle cries, or Universal Studios light and magic shows can stop reality. Reality says a million times over that women simply don’t have the physical strength, aerobic lung capacity or aggressiveness to withstand life in the combat arms and special operations. They are also more prone to stress fractures and other injuries.

Has anyone in the Pentagon wondered why they’re authorizing women for ground combat duty, yet the PGA won’t allow women to play with Jordan Spieth and Dustin Johnson in any tournament. Why, because women don’t have the physical strength to hit a golf ball as far as men, that’s why.

So, the Masters is out for women, but the Green Berets are in. Are you kidding me?

Either there will be double standards or the standards will be made gender neutral and so weak that the fat ladies driving around Walmart in two horsepower electric carts will become Navy SEALs.

Another factor dooming Operation You Girl is the emotional issues surrounding young men and women living together in garrison and more importantly, in the field.

The military says that good leadership will put a damper on human sex drive. Newsflash social engineers, no amount of ROTC Leadership 101 is going to stop an 18 year old with an erection in a movement to contact with a 36-24-36 cheerleader, Private Babs Horny. Get a grip; the Army and the Marines are about to become nothing more than a high school summer camp with guns and high explosives.

You have to wonder if the social engineers who are throwing a wrecking ball into the US military have any knowledge at all about combat, the military and war itself. People like Obama, Joe Biden, Ash Carter, Ray Mabus, Eric Fanning and the rest of the military’s executioners should study battles like The Wilderness, Verdun, Tarawa, Peleliu, Okinawa, Iwo Jima, Normandy, the Bulge, Khe Sanh and Tet. Think modern war can be won by diversity and technology; just ask the Marines who fought at Fallujah, or the soldiers from the Big Red One in Desert Storm who got into hand to hand fighting with the Republican Guard during the Battle of Norfolk, on the night of 26 February 1991.

War is about one thing; killing the enemy before he can kill you. It has nothing to do with equal opportunity, diversity, LGBT rights, transgender expression and ludicrous fantasies emanating from Professor Birkenstock’s women’s studies class.

Call me a cynic, but I think the subject is such a third rail in American politics that even a PC bashing behemoth like Trump won’t touch the issue. If elected, Trump would rebuild the military, but I don’t believe he has the knowledge nor will he have any generals with the stones to tell him to amend this debacle. If Trump utilizes the same school of Pentagon jellyfish trolling the hallways of the E-Ring, it’s game, set and match bad guys.

And, of course if Madame Secretary is elected it really is End Times, not only for the military, but for the nation itself.

Nope, it will take a colossal military disaster for this fiasco to end once and for all. Colossal military disaster defined as Putin’s Boys leaving the wreckage of the New US Army on the Ukrainian steppes; M1 tanks, red high heels and breast milk coolers. Or, the Chinese leaving a trail of tampons, mascara, lipstick and dead coed Marines throughout the tiny atolls of the South China Sea.

The true victims of this impending disaster are America’s young women in uniform. Well over ninety percent of women in the US military want nothing to do with ground combat, the combat arms and special operations. They are happy serving their country in the hundreds and hundreds of different jobs open to them. They know more than anyone what they are physically capable of doing in the military. It is a small minority of self-serving women in the military and leftist civilians who are pushing this nightmare agenda down the throat of the military.

The US military is on a collision course to defeat, disaster and perhaps complete destruction in war. The forced integration of women in the combat arms is not a civil rights victory, but rather the single greatest disaster in US military history.


TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: army; bhodod; dod; marines; military; militarydisaster; militarywomen; womenincombat
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To: BlueLancer

One thing this forum needs is a edit function AFTER a post goes up. So many times a mispelling or awkward grammar slips through...


61 posted on 06/05/2016 9:10:04 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: Covenantor
Those are not real U.S. Army......those are "real" U.S. Marines - spit.

I really wish I had them at my side when I was in the Marines and did house-to-house assault in Fallujah.....why in that picture, anyone of those "Marines" looks like they could carry the M240G and 600rds of 7.62x51 1:4 linked, and water, and SAPPI plates, and kevlar flak, and kevlar helmet, and spare barrel, and, grenades, and still run down the street, house to house, through heavy enemy machinegun and rifle propelled grenade fire....

AND be able to drag a wounded Marine to safety....AND be able to continue to carry his ammo and ordinance after he's been CASEVAC'd.

And during all of that still be able to look face to face with the enemy ages 8 to 80 and kill them without second though, or remorse. And do this hour after hour, day after day.

I'm "certain" they could do this............or not.

I'm so glad I'm out.

Enjoy it 'Murica....you voted for it.

62 posted on 06/05/2016 9:53:37 AM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy saints surrounded.)
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To: CodeToad

And, women have forced the old personnel departments in companies to become gigantic human resources organizations dedicated to dictating Orwellian creeds and stopping the numerous lawsuits filed.


63 posted on 06/05/2016 10:10:43 AM PDT by pboyington
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To: Repeat Offender

The old 4 second rush just became the 10 second rush with women in the infantry.
Pappy


64 posted on 06/05/2016 10:14:09 AM PDT by pboyington
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To: PLMerite

I see you didn’t read my post, or you would realize I already made the argument you made, in the very next paragraph, in fact. Should I add ‘reading comprehension’ to the things I’m better at? ;)


65 posted on 06/05/2016 10:42:57 AM PDT by Sasha_S (Where progressives rule, ignorance reigns.)
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To: wardaddy

What, pray tell, am I ‘dreaming’ about? I feel my analysis of my gender’s strengths and weaknesses was fairly even-handed.


66 posted on 06/05/2016 10:42:57 AM PDT by Sasha_S (Where progressives rule, ignorance reigns.)
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To: Sasha_S

I agree with you. There are some things women can do better than men.

I was a hurdler in college. I can remember seeing how easy it was for girls to go over the hurdles. Of course they were lower by a good bit and I was a lot faster but getting that trail leg over the hurdle was much easier for girls who were far more flexible in the hips.

There is one camera assembly job which I now forget but it could only be done by Japanese women with their very fine and delicate motor skills.

I think he may have thought you meant equal in combat.


67 posted on 06/05/2016 11:04:44 AM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: yarddog

If I had to make a guess (and it is just a guess, based on observation and what I know of myself) I’d say the top 20% of women would be better in a modern military situation than the bottom 20% of men... so yes, there would be a very few women who would make an acceptable recruit.

But when people who know far more about the military than I do say that even having a small number of women on the front lines would be disruptive, and when I see how standards ARE lowered so that more than the occasionally physically qualified woman can pass, I can’t believe that even allowing the top women into the ranks would be a good thing.

I -do-, however, think women should be eligible for a ‘draft’ or sorts in times of crisis, to be conscripted into jobs of a national-service nature while the men are off fighting. Yes, many women will volunteer, and did on the home front in WWII, but if we reach a point where men are being drafted to go fight, I see no reason why women shouldn’t be drafted to work jobs of great need back in this country where they can support the country’s efforts.


68 posted on 06/05/2016 11:48:38 AM PDT by Sasha_S (Where progressives rule, ignorance reigns.)
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To: Covenantor

Interesting times.


69 posted on 06/05/2016 5:51:59 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Sasha_S

In the real world which up until the middle of the last century even in the developed world was quite harsh for all but those at the rarified top men and women were not remotely equal in capability or survival

This new found era of comfort gives you an illusion of equality and how good you are at yoga would not stop a man my size from killing you in a matter of seconds were you unarmed

I’m not picking on you....you are a thoughtful poster but it’s the reality

And for some reason women today believe this fantasy .....and quite a few boys do too

Historically women have depended upon men to save them for good reason.

And it’s not because men were exploiting them

I’ve spent a good part of my life in world environs where women unprotected by men suffered badly

They didn’t entertain foolish notions of being equal to men beyond Gods eyes

This whole concept that women are all things is mutually assured destruction foisted upon the gullible by the undesired

It’s the Devils work


70 posted on 06/06/2016 12:11:06 AM PDT by wardaddy (No wobbly Donald....full steam ahead)
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To: piasa

Friend, you are wrong. The reason for having women in the military is to destroy the military.

Our leftists hate the country. They would like nothing more than to have the US military morph into a darling UN security force. If the left can turn the descendants of German warriors into cowardly pussies, as has already happened in Germany, they can certainly turn the grandsons of the greatest generation into the same. Training will be weakened. And the men who would make the best warriors don’t join because they are disgusted.

It’s just like gay marriage. The purpose of gay marriage is not equality, it is the destruction of marriage. For more on this see Stella Morabito’s very insightful perspectives.


71 posted on 06/06/2016 5:47:17 AM PDT by tom h
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