Posted on 08/09/2016 6:12:30 AM PDT by mainestategop
Hey everyone I'm having fun on my vacation with my family, we've done a lot this summer and I know many of you wanted some good articles and I felt compelled to do this particular article about Amy Chua for a while. In fact I've meant to do this several months ago but for whatever reason I never did. That changed while in California.
California has the tenth worst education system in the country. Public school teachers especially in California really don't give a damn about our kids... They take our money, raise our kids to be commies, illiterates and fast food workers and take no responsibility for failing.
Before continuing I just want point out some things about Amy Chua, she is an author and lawyer and a socialist. Her parents fled here from Communist china but the communism unfortunately didn't flee them. Amy was abused by her parents who pushed her to breaking point to be an achiever. She actually thinks that this is good and is now teaching Americans do to the same thing. A friend of mine who fled from communist China told me that this is very common in Asia to push kids to breaking point and to threaten them with the most severe punishments just for some small error or for not being right all the time.
In fact I spoke to people I know from communist countries and this actually is not only common in Asia and communist countries its very common in communism where the state or the communist parents will abuse their children to push them to reach their full potential using means and ways that one would find abusive.
One thing that shocked me was that many parents including conservatives agree with her even citing her as a cure for the problems caused by another socialist that ruined our children, the notorious Doctor Benjamin Spock who was very popular back in the 50s and opposed spanking and advocated over indulging our children and that this caused the hippie movement the Beatnik movement and all these other problems. This by the way is mostly false and I'll tell you why in a moment.
...in Asia and communist countries its very common in communism where the state or the communist parents will abuse their children to push them to reach their full potential using means and ways that one would find abusive.
Anyway I wanted to do this article on her because her parenting is common practice in Asia and the communist world and I also know people who came from strict households just like that. They were beat up and pushed so hard that they broke. Many of them wound up a nervous wreck, others became homeless and some did overcome this but were dragged down by their past.
I never go around to writing about this evil woman and her abusive policies until what happened while vacationing in California 2 weeks ago...
My family and I have spent summer travelling the country. Mostly we've been in the local area, we are currently in Rockport Massachusetts. We were just in California 2 weeks ago. We were up in Santa Barbara and Ventura Beach when we stopped at a homestyle buffet restaurant near Ventura. While there we saw this Asian family two tables down and the father was goading his sons. He had about 4 of them.
He told his sons that he expected all of them to get good grades and that he wasn't interested in excuses and even mentioned that he was disappointed at his son for getting a C+ instead of an A and that he only wanted As or else.
The father was very loud loud enough to be heard and by the way his English was mainly broken and he mispronounced words. But what really struck me was that he told his sons that when school started in a few weeks he expected them to get only As and no Cs. He even went as far as telling them that if any of them got a C+ or lower in any subject he would take their video game console and chuck it in the garbage thereby punishing all of them for the actions of one.
He told them he had enough of seeing Cs and Bs and that even an A- was cause for alarm. He raised his voice saying "I don't runt excooses! You rill bring home As I don't allow lazy children into my home! You understand!" They all said yes father. One then said okay we'll try our very best. He then hit the table and everyone started looking at him. He said "I dont runt you to try Darn it! I want you to do it! There's no excuses!"
Don't blame your children for why they flunked, blame yourself for letting them go to a communist public school instead of a private or Charter school, most of all blame the public school and the liberals in government that funded and tolerated it for failing.
Things later quieted down. My wife and I looked at each other, I wanted to go over and tell this person that if his kids can't get A's then its his fault and the schools fault and that for someone who wants his children to be right all the time he could learn to speak better English but I knew there was no point in reaching him and we didn't want to stir things up again. All we were doing was saying a prayer for these poor boys who now had faced the prospect of having their video game console lost forever if one of them didn't bring home an A.
My wife told me in the car, "I hope none of them have a learning disability." "Neither do I. Other wise heaven help them."
To make things worse, California has the tenth worst education system in the country. Public school teachers especially in California really don't give a damn about our kids. Having heard so many horror stories of public school and the effect it has on children, I can only conclude that public school teachers are the lowest pieces of sewage in America. They are nearly all excrement. They take our money, raise our kids to be commies, illiterates and fast food workers and take no responsibility for failing them as they do in California.
What's even worse is they form unions like the NEA to stop us from bringing our children to better schools like Charter schools or parochial schools or homeschooling them. They invade our households they tell us our children our not our children but the states children and their children. Then when they fail its their fault or our fault not theirs.
That's the real reason our kids can't learn and why his kids are bringing home Cs instead of As but Papa Mao no doubt is still a red, worships the government and hasn't learned anything since living in this once great nation. Don't blame your children for why they flunked, blame yourself for letting them go to public school instead of a private or Charter school, most of all blame the public school and the government that funded and tolerated it for failing.
Amy Chua doesn't blame the public school or herself for why her kids can't get As and Bs. She instead does the next worse thing, blame her children.
If her children actually make an effort to learn, there is no reason for this. My father who was not a conservative as I am but not liberal knew this so. That doesn't mean he was liberal. My parents did it the right way. The Christian way. The American way.
They didn't say that I was a bum or a putz or stupid if I slouched or didn't stand up straight or mind my manners, they said people will THINK you're those things.
Our parents I thank God did not follow neither the advice of Benjamin Spock or Amy Chua. When we were little if I or my Brothers were bad we got spanked. Later on they didn't do this but we knew that if we deliberately went out of line we would lose our privileges. We were also told not to behave a certain way and that people would think we were bums or stupid or would look at us in a negative way if we did.
Amy Chua, if her kid does something wrong whether deliberately or unintentionally she calls them stupid and other bad words. These as I will demonstrate later on are word curses the bible warns us about. Curses that can actually cause your kids to be stupid or bad.
The bible says in proverbs 18:21 The tongue has the power of life and death, and those who love it will eat its fruit. Amy Chua and
Hagee's words and the warnings of Pastor Hagee are very very
true...
Before going on let me share with you what Michael Savage said on a broadcast he did on the myth of Asperger's syndrome. You may remember that was one of my first articles but here's what he said about his childhood that is interesting; his parents would scold him for not behaving right. "Stand up straight! Stop slouching! People will think your a putz! Don't do that! Don't do this! people will think your a bum, do you want everyone to think you're stupid?"
It was like that with my parents too but note this: They didn't say that I was a bum or a putz or stupid if I slouched or didn't stand up straight or mind my manners, they said people will THINK you're those things. That is what I tell my kids too. My parents were right thank God for them. Mom and Dad let it be known that the casual viewer will not take me seriously and think that I am a disturbed person if I did this or that.
Amy Chua doesn't. Instead she tells her kids straight away that they're worthless, they're stupid they're failures and that they're terrible. Fail once and you've failed at everything for all time. She told her daughter during piano practice that if she did not get a certain song done perfectly by the end of the day she would sell her doll house. Often it is verbal and sometimes physical abuse. This negative message prevents children from taking risks that are necessary for development, it discourages them from trying new activities, it causes them to walk on broken egg shells and become nervous wrecks.
In communism its even worse. People are viewed as commodities, assets that are expendable. A man who fails once fails his country and the party for all time and is worthy of death. They either are forced to commit suicide or are executed by the state.
Think of Craig Toomey from The Langoliers. What that did to him to the point where he loses 30 million dollars on purpose. Of course that was fiction but I have known people just like that and it causes to them to breakdown and become a wreck for all their lives.
One good example is a story one of my employees told me about. She had a friend at school who was deathly afraid of being fat. Her father when she was small had her watch the movie The Silence of the Lambs and told her that Buffalo Bill AKA Jame Gumb was based on a group of real life serial killers that abduct fat women especially girls and skin them alive. He would also ridicule her if she ate too much.
Her father was fat growing up and wanted to stop his children becoming fat by telling this story. This woman grew up scared of eating because some guy would kidnap her hold her hostage and skin her to make a woman suit. She later became anorexic and bulimic and killed herself. He father only accomplished one thing besides keeping his daughter thin, he killed her.
With that in mind I should point out that suicide rates in Asia and communists countries are very very high and that as our own school system gets more and more left wing and much worse we have now begun to have young people filling psychiatric wards because of breakdowns at school.
Why? In Asian countries they have something in many Asian cultures called face. People are expected to be perfect, to be honorable, trustworthy at all times. If someone does something wrong even something we would consider trivial he has lost face. His family shuns him he is worthless and he is obliged to kill himself.
In communism its even worse. People are viewed as commodities, assets that are expendable. A man who fails once fails his country and the party for all time and is worthy of death. They either are forced to commit suicide or are executed by the state. In the 1930s in Russia, a common crime workers were punished with was wrecking. What happens is there's an accident, there is a loss of material and production and since this factory like all business and industry is run by the state the state suffers a loss.
The state would take it out on the worker or workers responsible by putting him or her(Women also were forced to work hard)on trial for wrecking and that they deliberately were sabotaging the people's state, they were collaborating with capitalists in doing this. They could just as well as punish him for carelessness which sometimes they also did but communists, they love to make a show of the most menial and trivial of things especially if it costs them something they value more than a human life. So they say they did it on purpose to help evil American fascist capitalists enslave them.
In Communist countries the economies are disasters but they wont admit this. Nonetheless, opportunities were rare and parents were compelled to push their children hard to move up the ladder... Verbal abuse and severe punishments for minor offenses are common therefore in communist households.
During World war 2 and the war in Afghanistan, Russian soldiers who retreated or were captured were punished as traitors or derelicts. One instance after Russia lost a battle to the Germans a colonel had all the men and women(again women also fought as well as worked)lined up and he would shoot every tenth man or woman in line for losing the battle. he would then tell them they had betrayed the motherland by not fighting hard enough.
In Afghanistan one of the most dangerous jobs for the soviets was piloting Mi-24 Hind Helicopters. Think Red Dawn and the helicopter scene when the Hind Helicopters attack them. It was like that for rebels in Afghanistan though much worse. Then again they had the benefit of being armed by the CIA.
Anyway, Hind Pilots were expected to go out usually at the break of dawn to go look for rebel insurgents. The soviets had poor infrared systems so night fighting was difficult especially for the Hind pilots but they had to go out and the commander would set a quota for these pilots. If they go out and dawn and find nothing to attack they were usually punished for dereliction of duty. Other times pilots could be punished for returning with damaged equipment and if they took heat. Some were court martialed and executed by firing squad or hanging all because they were attacked and the helicopter or something in it was damaged in the fight.
There is no such thing as a learning disability. There is no such thing as a stupid child. Show me a child who has ADD or is bad in school, I will show you a school and parents who are irrespnsible and who have failed their children. Our schools are conditioning our children to be illiterate and stupid so they can serve the state and help it profit at our expense.
World war 2 it was the same thing. Pilots who got shot down and survived and made it back or who returned with damaged planes faced a court martial and execution because they damaged the plane while fighting or lost it. As Stalin the boss once said the IL-2 Sturmovik, one of the USSR's most famous air attack planes were more valuable than bread. And to communists, bread and airplanes ETC. are more valuable than a human life. Think about it...
In Communist countries the economies are disasters but they wont admit this. Nonetheless, opportunities were rare and parents were compelled to push their children hard to move up the ladder and find niches in high positions in the military the state or elsewhere rather than remain peasant farmers or laborers. It was not easy and one slip up even in childhood could condemn a youngster for life. Verbal abuse and severe punishments for minor offenses are common therefore in communist households.
Children who are told by their parents that they are stupid, worthless, failures, losers, sissies and so on usually wind up as such. Why? The bible in proverbs 18:21 speaks of the power of the tongue. It has the power of life and death. In biblical times, parents would bless their children when they came of age to do good and follow the lord.
In capitalist countries, failures are just treated as set backs. One has the opportunity to pick himself or herself up and try again be they workers, businessmen or inventors. James Cash Penney founder of JCPenney had his share of ups and downs, mostly downs. It didn't stop him from becoming a successful businessman, one of the best in the nation. He failed often in business, in investment, in marriage and in other things. In Asia he would be obliged to kill himself. In communist countries he would have been branded a wrecker or a social parasite. Amy Chua would have branded him as being stupid, worthless and never amounting to anything.
Many other people had set backs. Michael Jordan failed his first basketball tryout. Horatio Nelson, the admiral who lead Britain to victory in Trafalgar, started his navy career as a midshipman with little potential. He was even sea sick no sooner had he been aboard. Mozart and Beethoven weren't viewed as having potential as musicians.
Amy Chua's parenting not only has disastrous psychological potentials for our children but spiritual ones as well. Children who are told by their parents that they are stupid, worthless, failures, losers, sissies and so on usually wind up as such. Why? The bible speaks of the power of the tongue. In biblical times, parents would bless their children when they came of age to do good and follow the lord. They did not curse them or knock them down as Amy would have us do but blessed them.
Pastor John Hagee brought this up in his sermon series Diamonds for daily life. Working in the prison ministry in Texas' notorious prisons, he found that many of the inmates were abused and cursed by their parents and teachers. They were told that they were stupid and worthless and would amount to nothing. It came true... Many of these people never finished school because they felt they were stupid, they decided to become bad to hide their shame. Hagee would bless the inmates and remove these curses from them and many he blessed when they got out of prison became better people.
John Hagee admonished the parents in his church that if they had said anything negative about their children to ask God to forgive them and remove it and to bless their children in all things in school and coming of age to remove word curses.
The bible says in proverbs 18:21 The tongue has the power of life and death, and those who love it will eat its fruit. Amy Chua and Hagee's words and the warnings of Pastor Hagee are very very true...
There is no such thing as a learning disability. There is no such thing as a stupid child. Show me a child who has ADD or is bad in school, I will show you a school and parents who are irrespnsible and who have failed their children. Our schools are conditioning our children to be illiterate and stupid so they can serve the state and help it profit at our expense. This is the goal of public school as taught by Marx and Dewey. More on that in a future article.
It wasn't because of Benjamin Spock that the children became rebellious socialist outcasts that turned the nation upside down, it wasn't even because of Madalyn Murray O'hair but because of parents who failed to teach a new generation the meaning of work, thrift and discipline.
This is a strange, rambling article. And the above statement is just wrong. And the author doesn't know anything about Amy Chua's philosophy. If anything, Chua would say BECAUSE the schools are failing, you must take responsibility for making sure your children are educated and motivated to learn.
By threatening to sell her daughters doll house if she didn’t get a song on the piano done right or threatening to chuck out the sony playstation because someone got a B or an a- instead of an a+. Yeah that’ll work.
This is a long, rambling article that doesn’t say much really.
“Yeah that’ll work.”
But it often DOES WORK. It works all over Asia, for instance.
that’s stupid
It assumes a child has the capability to understand such complex punishment
Children only understand IMMEDIATE consequences. Run into the street, and you gt a whack on the ass. They do not understand the complexitys of vehicle mass and velocity and its effects on a 40 pound child.
But what woud the parents do if she did NOT play the song correctly? selling her doll house a week later and going “see?” is a stupid punishment and probably does more damage than good.
‘In communism its even worse. People are viewed as commodities, assets that are expendable’
IIRC, Kathleen Sebelius referred to the American people as ‘Human Capital’. We are just commodities and assets to be used for the Government’s ends. I worked in a medical lab that referred to we, the employees, as ‘Human Capital’. I left as soon as I could.
Why does Asia have such a high rate of mental illness and suicide then? I know people who lived under that looming fear as children. Not all of them became successful. Even those that did spent their lives like they’re walking on egg shells about to explode.
As a kid, my parents wanted A's. And, if I got A's, they wanted them to stay A's.
WBill Jr has the same expectation from me. I don't see a thing wrong with it.
Only thing that I've added, is that if "A's" aren't happening, then I start asking what needs to change to make them happen. (Mom and Dad made me figure it out on my own....) I'm willing to help - for instance, during a tough time in school a couple of years ago, he asked that I get him there a little earlier in the morning, that extra 10-15 minutes to get his stuff together would be a huge help.
Done, and problems resolved.
Not great writing. Not sure about the premise either. Collectivism tends to promote the incompetent up the authority ladder. It is free Asian countries like Japan, S Korea, Singapore who drive their children hard to achieve.
Do you have a citation?
The thrust of your argument has two parts, both false:
1) People everywhere are basically the same. They are not. Whether this is genetic, environmental, or both remains to be seen. Europeans have the desire, and the ability, to exhibit mercy, which extends to child-rearing practices. East Asians have great difficulty with this.
2) Education is something that is given to you, or done to you, like a shot of penicillin or an operation. It is not. It is something you do. African children with very low IQs become educated simply by attending school in a Quonset hut with a few books. Public schools are spiritually devastating, which is why they should be abolished, but they possess sufficient resources that any child capable of education will easily become educated there.
One of my Latin students told me he never even played with a game console that he got for Christmas. “She only gave it to me so she could take it away later,” he said.
as a kid, my parents had no expectations of me, as i was a dreaded female child.
I was (am!) pretty smart too, but we were never encouraged.
Just as an aside, they were old school Europeans.
Maybe if we had been boys it would have been different.
Yes. You’re right. I read the whole thing hoping it would get to the point. It’s terribly written.
Culturally, there is almost zero difference between those countries and China today. Communism hasn't even made a dent in Confucianism, from whence the Tiger Mom ethos stems.
There is in fact a good and relevant recent Chinese TV drama called "Tiger Mom", starring actress Zhao Wei and set in Beijing. It's available on Dramafever.com, for those who subscribe to it. The show lays out all the pressures on the Chinese "one child" family with humor and surprising honesty, from giving up their luxurious house in the suburbs to move to an ugly apartment so they can send their daughter to a in a top-ranked school, to dealing with the old Communist grandfather, a former school superintendent with Tiger Mom-style ideas on education, to seeing Zhao Wei's character transform from a loving and sympathetic mother to a slave driving tyrant, desperate to force her daughter as far up the education ladder as possible. Well worth watching, and a good picture of life in modern Beijing, where they have a lot of the same public education troubles we face in the US (i.e., good schools are great - bad ones are less than worthless).
While learning disabilities may be poorly defined and overly employed as an excuse for results with different causes, they do exist. As an example, dyslexia is very real.
A lot of what the chinamen call parenting truly is abuse, and creates yet more messed up chinamen.
“Why does Asia have such a high rate of mental illness and suicide then?”
I have no reason to believe their rate of mental illness is any higher than ours. Go into almost any modern college classroom and you’ll be SHOCKED at how many of the girls in that room are on anti-depressants. If their suicide rate is higher than it is for cultural reasons (i.e., there is no powerful religious underpinnings to their society opposed to suicide. Suicide is even viewed as virtuous in some cases).
“I know people who lived under that looming fear as children. Not all of them became successful.”
And how many who are not pushed as children become successful? Seriously, you don’t seem to grasp the obvious. Of course not every kid who is pushed becomes successful, but I bet the rate of success is lower among those kids who are not pushed. So what’s you’re point?
“Even those that did spent their lives like they’re walking on egg shells about to explode.”
And those who don’t succeed often spend their lives wondering why they didn’t succeed. Again, so what?
And it doesn’t hurt that Zhao Wei is pretty good looking too. But those eyes apparently will drive weaker men to court: http://tinyurl.com/zfyveoc
Mr. Ball said, “My wife and I looked at each other, I wanted to go over and tell this person...” But of course he did not go over or say anything to him.
We visited Bristol to see the “Birthplace of Country Music Museum” last week (and loved it!) In line at the grocery store later, we saw a man pop his son on the rear and say, “Enough!” An elderly woman right there, who thought she knew what was going on, said, “Don’t spank him for that!” Everyone, about a dozen people, stopped what they were doing in both check lines and glared at her; the father said nothing. She looked around and started back tracking, “I just meant don’t spank him for THAT. He wasn’t hurting my cart. Uh...” People were still silent and glaring. She said, “I know that children sometimes need to be spanked! ...uhh...” Then turning to the father she politely said, “I’m sorry. I shouldn’t have tried to interfere.” Immediately everything returned to normal.
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