Posted on 08/19/2016 5:59:10 AM PDT by quietneighbor
I remember one night on a little Portugese Island off Spain/Portugal getting likkered up and going with some friends to ride on the back of the island garbage truck riding through its ‘big city’ to collect the crap the locals put out to throw away. Great fun, but in the end, we ended up on a cliff dumping the sh!t in the ocean.
We didn’t end up on the news, BTW.
My take also. But my British husband thinks I am ‘giving them a pass’ only because they are Americans. So, no one in our Media cares that there was a language gap, one of the guys was dressed like a policeman and had a gun on them, while they had their hands up??? They were idiots for sure, but this whole thing smells of a shakedown.
So is there more to this story then we know right now?
I for one think the possibilities are great that there indeed may be.
Why did they not do the same to Lochte before he left? We know that there have been a lot of people robbed down there, and not just Americans. Perhaps Brazilian law enforcement is just trying to take the heat off of themselves.
If Lochte did do this then he has indeed disgraced himself. His accomplishments will be overshadowed by his stupidity for the rest of his life. But lets see how this all plays out when the other 2 athletes return to the U.S.
Welcome to FR, where clickbait is hated.
Two threads, both posted as clickbait to the same blog.
Somebody pulls a gun on me, and demands money before he will let me go, then I will conclude that I have been robbed, even if the man with the gun is wearing a uniform. Even if he IS a police officer.
One thing to keep in mind is that these 2 athletes who supposed confused to this, were ripped out of line and taken to the police station.
Should say:
One thing to keep in mind is that these 2 athletes who supposedly confessed to this, were ripped out of line and taken to the police station.
So is there more to this story then we know right now?
I for one think the possibilities are great that there indeed may be.
Why did they not do the same to Lochte before he left? We know that there have been a lot of people robbed down there, and not just Americans. Perhaps Brazilian law enforcement is just trying to take the heat off of themselves.
If Lochte did do this then he has indeed disgraced himself. His accomplishments will be overshadowed by his stupidity for the rest of his life. But lets see how this all plays out when the other 2 athletes return to the U.S.
I need a “welcome to FR?”
I’ve long wanted to see an Urban Biathlon.
No it isn't. Their claim of being robbed by someone that looked like a Brazilian police officer is a reasonable enough description of what happened.
They had a gun pointed at them by someone whom they thought was pretending to be a police officer, and they had money taken from them at gunpoint.
What the Brazilian police are doing is quibbling over the meaning of the words those athletes used, and trying to build a trumped up case over it.
You think thats just fine? I’m going out on a limb here, but if these were a bunch of (black) sprinters instead of a bunch of lily white frat boy swimmers your take on this would be a bit different.
You could just come out and say you think i'm a racist. I don't even give a sh*t if that's what you want to think. Obviously you've got some sort of chip on your shoulder that makes you think you need to lead with accusations of racism.
If a bunch of black sprinters told me they were robbed by Brazilian locals, I would believe them. My perception of Brazil is that it is a third world socialist hell hole attempting to pretend it isn't as bad as it really is.
Why would anyone make up such a story? What is in it for them to make up such a story? Do you think they did it because they wanted some sort of attention?
How is claiming you were robbed (if you were not) a desirable thing to do? Couldn't they have just said nothing?
There is no motivation of which I can comprehend for making up such a story, they simply and foolishly thought that reporting a robbery was a normal and proper thing to do.
They are self entitled punks. They made their bed, now they need to lie in it.
That they are self entitled punks might be true, but that does not establish a motive to make up such a story when there is no obvious benefit to them from doing so.
Plus the evidence indicates that they were in fact robbed at gunpoint by someone whom they thought was pretending to be Brazilian police.
In the USA, you don't point a gun at someone and demand money. If it is a legal issue, such as "vandalism" you call the police and have the police make a report.
Pointing a gun at someone and demanding money is "robbery" in this country. If it is not in Brazil, than that's just more evidence of Brazil being a third world hell hole.
great post...nothing like a middle digit salute to calm a serious international incident with the Olympic host country....a most effective way to restore good will..although you could have pulled down your panties and showed them your butt...
they lied...
I really do not keep up with the Olympics, to the point if it were not mentioned on this board I probably wouldn't even know they were going on right now. It has only sparked an interest to know that the U.S. is #1 in the medal standings by a large number.
So should he be stripped of his gold? I think it may be appropriate.
I see nowhere that they filed a police report.
How are you giving them a "Pass" when the evidence released by Brazilian police have the athletes on the ground with their hands up, and all parties agree that they handed over money at gun point?
How do you spin that as a "non-robbery"? As I pointed out, in a first world country, security guards (if that's what he was) do not point guns at you and demand money. They might hold you at gunpoint and call the police, but they do not force you to pay them at the point of a gun.
The Brazilian police have been ordered by their political superiors to make this embarrassing event go away. Their method of accomplishing this is to shang-hai these guys on trumped up charges of "filing a false police report" by parsing the meaning of what they said in such a way that it leads to the predetermined conclusion the Brazilian police want.
So, no one in our Media cares that there was a language gap, one of the guys was dressed like a policeman and had a gun on them, while they had their hands up???
Exactly my point. The Brazilian police are exploiting the language gap to create the illusion of a false report.
For example, the Brazilian police are saying "Security Guard" while the Athletes said "Brazilian Police." (or some such.) Rather than regarding it as a difference of perception, they are calling this difference in terminology "a lie."
They were idiots for sure, but this whole thing smells of a shakedown.
I saw someone rip down a poster. I saw the bathroom door that they supposedly kicked in, but it appeared to be working fine. The Reporter pointed at the bathroom and said they had vandalized it, but he showed no images of the interior to demonstrate that they had. (Perhaps all damage had been repaired by that time?)
But the fact remains, the video demonstrates clearly that men are being held at gunpoint and it is admitted that money was taken from them. (The athletes say $400.00, the Brazilian police say $50.00.)
It looks to me as if Brazil is acting like the third world country that it is. It is too sensitive to it's social status in international eyes, and intent on bending facts in an effort to save it's own perception of a loss of face.
My first thought was not that Brazil was a Banana Republic, it was that in a population of that size, with that many visitors, it was not unusual to hear that someone got robbed, and if it was by someone pretending to be a police officer, so what? We've had that happen here.
But since they pulled out the "Official" let us act like a Banana Republic and defend our nation from these unwarranted "smears" act, they've only convinced me that they are in fact a third world Banana Republic in their mindset as well as their behavior.
Brazil should have taken the report and quietly filed it away rather than provoking more interest in it. By inviting scrutiny of their official doings, they caused us to see things that do not reflect well on them.
It looks like a third world shakedown scheme now.
I never said they did or didn’t.
I drew the analogy to Hill because...
It was not Hill who approached the Judiciary Committee about Thomas’ supposed sexual harassment, but two of her friends who claimed she had told them (lied to them) of such.
Similarly, Lochte told his BS story to his Mommy among others. No one was making a big deal of Lochte’s story until his Mommy started screaming to the media.
Moral: Only tell a BS story to the deaf and dumb
This is exactly how I would see it too. Especially if the amount taken was $400.00 as I have heard a report that it was, rather than $50.00 as is the "official" narrative.
And now Brazil is demanding that this one guy pay $11,000.00 to charity before they will give him back his passport?
What sort of kangaroo government is this?
About what? And who says?
The facts as shown by the evidence so far is that someone dressed in a Uniform pointed a gun at them and demanded they pay him money before he would let them go.
What part was a lie?
And this is what I think. I think the people in Brazilian custody are frightened that they are in the clutches of a banana republic government which is overly sensitive to public perception and which they have inadvertently offended by relating an ugly event that happened to them.
I think they have been threatened and intimidated and are willing to confess to a great deal if it is presented to them as the only way they are going to get out of Brazil.
If they had known what sort of overreaction they would have gotten from reporting the event, they would have kept their mouths shut. Who needs to get in the middle of a Drama-Queen-Nation's sensitivity?
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