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FBI Disagrees With CIA On Russian Influence In The Presidential Election
The Daily Caller ^ | December 11, 2016 | Russ Read

Posted on 12/11/2016 8:55:54 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

The FBI did not corroborate the CIA’s claim that Russia had a hand in the election of President-elect Donald Trump in a meeting with lawmakers last week.

A senior FBI counterintelligence official met with Republican and Democrat members of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence in order to give the bureau’s view of a recent CIA report. The official did not concur with the CIA, frustrating Democrats.

The CIA believes Russia “quite” clearly intended to send Trump to the White House. The claim is a bold one, and concerned Democrats and some Republicans who are worried about Trump’s desire to mend relations with an increasingly aggressive Russia. The CIA report was “direct, bald and unqualified,” one of the officials at the meeting told The Washington Post Saturday.

The FBI official was much less convinced of the claims, providing “fuzzy” and “ambiguous” remarks.

The different conclusions reached by the two intelligence agencies is a reflection of their different institutional styles. CIA officials often use past behavior and analysis based on gathered intelligence to advise leaders, whereas the FBI comes from a more legalistic background which relies on hard evidence to make a case.

The White House announced Friday that President Barack Obama ordered a full-scope investigation into the allegations against the Kremlin. Obama wants the investigation to be completed before he leaves office in late January, and intends to declassify as much of it as possible. Legislators want to accompany the report with a congressional investigation.

“Only in this way can the American people know the extent of Russian interference and we can attempt to inoculate ourselves against continued meddling in our elections,” Rep. Adam Schiff, the ranking member of the House intelligence committee, told the Washington Post.

Rep. Devin Nunes, the chairman of the committee, sided with FBI’s assessment.

“There is no clear evidence — even now,” he told the Post. “There’s a lot of innuendo, lots of circumstantial evidence, that’s it.”


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: 2016election; brennan; cia; election; fbi; hillary; russia; russianhackers; trump; wikileaks
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The FBI is in charge of counterintelligence, not the CIA.
1 posted on 12/11/2016 8:55:54 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Proving once again that nowhere is there a larger collection of people claiming to know the truth about something who don’t have the foggiest idea of what they are talking about than in Washington DC.


2 posted on 12/11/2016 8:58:10 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I know the FBI ctully accomplishes things (like catch crooks), frequently, or so they say. What does the CIA do, besides politicize intel?


3 posted on 12/11/2016 9:00:37 PM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: PghBaldy

help the syrian rebels and maybe even ISIS?


4 posted on 12/11/2016 9:02:21 PM PST by ari-freedom (Chicken Little Concerned for Trump people are almost as annoying as NeverTrumpers!)
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To: PghBaldy

I keep thinking about the Valerie Plame cluster during the Bush 43 years.


5 posted on 12/11/2016 9:03:31 PM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: PghBaldy

They sit about conspiring to drive domestic and foreign policy to suit the agenda of their globalist masters.

Oh, and sometimes they -off people.


6 posted on 12/11/2016 9:07:39 PM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies ('45 will be the best ever.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
concerned Democrats and some Republicans who are worried about Trump’s desire to mend relations with an increasingly aggressive Russia

Pardon me, but didn't Obama/Hillary try to "mend relations" with Russia a few years back... and it failed. So why are they upset a winner can now give it a shot?

7 posted on 12/11/2016 9:07:50 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: PghBaldy

They spy on you and me.


8 posted on 12/11/2016 9:10:31 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I believe the CIA is currently run by Brennan, a convert to Islam and therefore at ease with lying.


9 posted on 12/11/2016 9:11:24 PM PST by beethovenfan (I always try to maximize my carbon footprint.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Unless the CIA was monitoring the hacks in real time it's impossible for them to make anything remotely resembling a case, and in fact, even in real time it would be very difficult.

That's how you know the current round of propaganda is just that: propaganda. The CIA is smart enough to know that they don't have anything even remotely resembling proof, but somebody has decided to pretend they do for political reasons.

Saying they "know" the Russians were trying to help Trump is roughly as stupid as talking about wiping a server with a cloth.

10 posted on 12/11/2016 9:12:53 PM PST by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward Fifth Avenue to be born?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That one CIA guy said there are both white hats and black hats in the FBI and CIA in a struggle for power. My guess is the FBI has more white hats, and the CIA has more black hats.


11 posted on 12/11/2016 9:16:00 PM PST by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democrat)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Pompeo needs to fire most of the ranking diuchebags at the CIA once he gets in.


12 posted on 12/11/2016 9:17:08 PM PST by jospehm20
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Douchebags at the CIA


13 posted on 12/11/2016 9:17:47 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: FredZarguna

If you notice....there’s not a shred of evidence that supports their claim....just humble opinion. I suspect if you did ask them under oath...they’d say it came from talks with the French and Germans. So you’d go to them and ask for proof. They’d say it came from the Italians. So you’d go to the Italians, and they’d say they heard this from the Turks. On and on and on.

It’s all fake.


14 posted on 12/11/2016 9:19:55 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Still cannot see why Russia would want to interrupt progress being made in obama/clinton endeavors to decimate United States armed forces.


15 posted on 12/11/2016 9:24:54 PM PST by clearcarbon
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
No evidence on Trump, while they willfully ignore the hard facts of Hillary's uranium windfall earnings and podestas Russian stock ,, stinks ....
16 posted on 12/11/2016 9:29:42 PM PST by seastay
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The friends of Barak Obama and Hillary Clinton are using the Russian hacking ruse to stick a knife in the back of PE Trump. They’re doing Obama and Hillary’s bidding here.

Any time you use ‘unnamed sources’ in political news stories you expose yourself as liars and political hacks. Which the NY times and WashPo has done.


17 posted on 12/11/2016 9:31:33 PM PST by Bullish
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To: beethovenfan
I believe the CIA is currently run by Brennan, a convert to Islam and therefore at ease with lying.

It was a lot easier to get away with public lying in the 14th Century than it is today.

18 posted on 12/11/2016 9:40:39 PM PST by Steely Tom ([VOTE FRAUD] == [CIVIL WAR])
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The problem is that they are sounding a bit like John Belushi when Carrie Fisher catches up with him in The Blues Brothers.

It was the Electoral System.
It was James Comey.
It was Anthony Weiner
It was a Russian hacker.
It was fake news.
It was all the racist Trump supporters.
She won the popular vote…

What is really interesting the same media that was totally disinterested when Obama was caught on an open mic telling Russian President Medvedev: “Tell Vald that I’ll have more flexibility once I am re-elected” is now all up in arms.


19 posted on 12/11/2016 9:47:03 PM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

HOORAY FBI (James Commie still sucks, though)


20 posted on 12/11/2016 9:52:53 PM PST by PGalt (CONGRATULATIONS Donald J. Trump)
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