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Russians or alien voters: Foreign interference in our election
cbsnews, all media ^ | 12/18/16 | Bob Schmidt, self

Posted on 12/18/2016 9:08:47 AM PST by spintreebob

Mr. Trump offered two tweets that for the first time accepted the possibility of politically-motivated Russian hacking.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: election; fakenews; hacking; illegalsvoting; russia
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Suppose non-citizens voted in the election. Suppose Russia hacked the DNC.

Which should be investigated? Which is more serious?

Most vote fraud (I alleged) is by natural born citizens. But some vote fraud is conducted by non-citizens ... mostly legal residents and not illegals.

Why is everyone so one sided in their concern about foreign involvement in our election?

1 posted on 12/18/2016 9:08:47 AM PST by spintreebob
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Not to mention Saudi contributions to Hillary’s campaign.


2 posted on 12/18/2016 9:10:05 AM PST by fhayek
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CBS fake news


3 posted on 12/18/2016 9:11:02 AM PST by Doogle (( USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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4 posted on 12/18/2016 9:14:02 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standairds at all -- Texas Eagle)
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This is a great contrast.


5 posted on 12/18/2016 9:14:07 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Democracy is the backup QB to a dictatorship)
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If the CIA wants to investigate something, why aren’t they investigating the governments of Mexico, Central and South America for flooding OUR country with “unaccompanied” illegal alien and “refugee” voters for the DemocRATS? Hypocrites.


6 posted on 12/18/2016 9:14:10 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (As long as tyranny exists, the Constitution and Bill of Right will never be "outdated" or "obsolete")
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Why is everyone so one sided in their concern about foreign involvement in our election?

The Democrats are one-sided because they lost. They can't blame Hillary, so Russia becomes the scapegoat. Besides that, the illegal votes/voters support their party, so they will not touch that with a ten foot pole. In other words, it's not a problem for them at all. They are upset there were not enough of them in fact.

7 posted on 12/18/2016 9:16:01 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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How about media interfence? Clearly.


8 posted on 12/18/2016 9:16:17 AM PST by Leep (Stronger without her!)
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Isn’t it interesting how democrats are so wadded up about Russia interfering in our election but have no problem with Mexicans voting.


9 posted on 12/18/2016 9:19:08 AM PST by LydiaLong
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Well, we all know the answer to that. They’re not going to investigate their soon to be largest voting bloc, and let’s not kid ourselves about the CIA. It’s ranks are filled with Democrats educated at the Ivies and part of the eastern establishment/globalist wing.


10 posted on 12/18/2016 9:23:02 AM PST by dowcaet
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Russia is Obama’s Goldstein. Russia is a convenient bogeyman for anything you want.

The truth is that the DNC cheated Bernie during their primary and colluded with CNN to provide Hillary with questions that would would asked during the debate.

Crickets. And she still lost.

That’s the story: She was such an abysmal candidate with so much baggage, that even cheating and collusion couldn’t help her. All this talk about Russia is a smokescreen.

Obama’s saber-rattling is doing no one any favors. He’s basically creating a foreign affairs crisis for Trump (who had nothing to do with it) for the weakest of reasons just as he leaves . He may be masquerading his own involvement in the DNC fiasco by stirring up the “Russian hackers” meme.


11 posted on 12/18/2016 9:23:31 AM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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Suppose non-citizens voted in the election. Suppose Russia hacked the DNC. Which should be investigated? Which is more serious?

Suppose a million illegals voted? And suppose the MSM STOPPED citizens from hearing that CNN GAVE THE DEBATE QUESTIONS TO HILLARY BEFORE THE DEBATES and sat on all the other damning 'realities' of the emails?

Do a poll... find out which one mattered most.

12 posted on 12/18/2016 9:26:05 AM PST by GOPJ ("Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats". P.J O'Rourke)
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How about media interfence? Clearly.
Journalism is persuasion.

As far as “the media” (journalism) is concerned, people who aren’t persuaded by journalism “interfere” with their government. Not “our” government - their government.


13 posted on 12/18/2016 9:26:27 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which ‘Liberalism’ coheres is that NOTHING ACTUALLY MATTERS except PR.)
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How about media interfence? Clearly.


A good example is Donna Brazile of CNN giving Hillary the questions in advance for a town hall. Not only did Brazile cheat by giving the questions ahead of time, Hillary cheated by accepting them. If she was honorable, not only would she have refused the questions, but she would have reported receiving them.


14 posted on 12/18/2016 9:32:13 AM PST by Flick Lives (Les Deplorables Triumphant)
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Fake news and spin. Here are the actual tweets:

Are we talking about the same cyberattack where it was revealed that head of the DNC illegally gave Hillary the questions to the debate?

If Russia, or some other entity, was hacking, why did the White House wait so long to act? Why did they only complain after Hillary lost?


15 posted on 12/18/2016 9:35:06 AM PST by piytar (http://www.truthrevolt.org/videos/bill-whittle-number-one-bullet)
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Anyone have a list all the numerous foreign countries that odumbo and hitlary have meddled in their various election processes? No doubt the media and liberals have a difficulty defining or even publishing the names. Liberal hypocrites!
16 posted on 12/18/2016 9:39:22 AM PST by DaveA37
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I live in California.

Every election cycle there is a massive drive by the usual suspects to “get out the vote” with illegals.

The numbers of votes cast by illegals now are probably in the 2 million range.

MeChA, the spanish newspapers and TV media combine with the destructionist political party in these drives.


17 posted on 12/18/2016 9:40:59 AM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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In 2012— The state of Florida found 180,000 aliens on the voter rolls.

Likely over 250,000 by Election 2016.

Aliens are deciding the elections in multiple states for many candidates.


18 posted on 12/18/2016 9:44:42 AM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies ('45 will be the best ever.)
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Hillary was such a bad candidate that even Putin could beat her.


19 posted on 12/18/2016 9:46:55 AM PST by Brilliant
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If you carefully read the “leaks” by “anonymous” sources, it would appear that the intelligence consists of the following:

1. This type of hacking tool (this particular phishing tool) is associated with Russian hackers.

2. Russian hackers would not dare hack the DNC or John Podesta without the approval of the Russian government, and in particular the personal approval of Putin.

That appears to be it. Very weak. Hacking tools get shared around the dark web, and there is nothing unusual about a phishing attempt. The FBI confirmed to the RNC that the RNC received the same phishing attempt, but the RNC was not stupid enough to click on it. That Putin is involved is just surmise. Indeed, you could probably find evidence of Russian or Chinese “hacking attempts” on every significant computer system in the Washington, D.C., area.

Since it is a practical certainty that the Russians were among the five foreign intel agencies that hacked Hillary’s server, why did they release the DNC emails and not Hillary’s deleted emails, if it was the Russians?

On the other hand, we have Wikileaks, which no one has caught in a false statement in ten years of operation, saying that an insider leaked the information, not through hacking.

The fact that the CIA refuses to go before the Congressional intel committees and discuss their evidence says a lot.

This appears to be an attempt by Brennan and the CIA (a supposedly non-partisan US government entity) to interfere in the operation of the Electoral College in hopes of affecting the outcome of the presidential election.

We could speculate along the same lines as Brennan is doing that foreign interests were behind the release of the Access Hollywood tape, thus influencing the election.


20 posted on 12/18/2016 10:03:29 AM PST by Meet the New Boss
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