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Is It Time for California to Secede From the Union?
IWB ^ | Chris Black

Posted on 03/09/2018 5:35:08 AM PST by davikkm

No, seriously, this is an important question. It’s like in a failing marriage: if things are beyond repair, after you’ve tried everything and nothing seem to work anymore, every day is exactly the same (nagging and fighting over any minute detail)and all that, it’s better for both spouses to go their separate ways, don’t you think? The marriage example in California’s case is pretty accurate, as the former Golden State is now boasting its open defiance against the law of of the land, in this case federal immigration laws. California’s defiant behavior finally determined that sleepy elf also known as AG Sessions to do something about it, i.e. the DOJ filed a lawsuit, which blocks California’s sanctuary state laws. The purpose of the lawsuit is to establish once and for all that sanctuary jurisdictions are unconstitutional.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: agsessions; california; union
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To: davikkm

Cali would quickly join with Mexico so no I do not think they should be allowed independence. Better idea is to enforce the law and throw a bunch of lawless Cali pols in jail.


81 posted on 03/09/2018 7:55:05 AM PST by jpsb
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To: davikkm

Give it back to May-Hee-Co, but return it to the condition it was in when we “stole” it.


82 posted on 03/09/2018 7:58:31 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Hillary: Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 2 billion dollars.)
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To: davikkm

Why wait for them to decide to secede? Let’s just kick them out.


83 posted on 03/09/2018 8:08:15 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: central_va

Look, your original point was to off Cali as a whole and I countered with WVa, and somehow it all morphed into how much we’re assisting Israel. Israeli PMs have always acknowledged how critical US support is to Israel.

No point in going any further with this, no matter how disfunctional your all caps key might be. You obviously don’t know or understand the differences between the regions in CA.

Have a fine day.


84 posted on 03/09/2018 8:12:10 AM PST by ScottinVA ( Liberals, go find another country.)
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To: Junk Silver

They’ll have to recruit, train, equip and pay their OWN army, navy air core, etc., print their OWN money, set up their OWN FEMA, their OWN schools, their OWN gov’t agencies, their OWN EVERHTHING!!!etc...

It’s a bigger move than they think


85 posted on 03/09/2018 8:14:04 AM PST by SMARTY ("Nearly all men can stand adversity...to test a man's character, give him power." A. Lincoln)
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To: davikkm

Make the traitors secede from the country...we keep the land.


86 posted on 03/09/2018 8:14:20 AM PST by WKUHilltopper (WKU 2016 Boca Raton Bowl Champions)
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To: euram

Geee, yet another comment that looks like it was composed by a 10 year old.


87 posted on 03/09/2018 8:35:51 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Yep. And, while I'd love to jump on the bandwagon and say "Good Riddance!!", I don't think it's a particularly good idea, either.

Figure that they'd be bankrupt inside a year, and give carte blanche to another country - likely China - to prop them up financially. Don't think that I'd want a heavily militarized puppet state on our literal doorstep.

88 posted on 03/09/2018 8:47:40 AM PST by wbill
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To: davikkm
Half of Kalifornia is owned by the Federal Government (ie...the rest of us.) Make them have a Visa to enter Yosemite, Kings Canyon, ...etc. Sell Colorado river and other water, electricity at high price. This could be fun.


89 posted on 03/09/2018 8:51:24 AM PST by D Rider
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To: davikkm

Why bother!
this IS the world...180 out from reality!
We be on the clock....Tik, Tik, Tik, everything’s self-cleaning, kinda...


90 posted on 03/09/2018 9:02:12 AM PST by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: central_va

I am not a Free Trader. And if you think California is, try to take an orange INTO California.

The Agricultural Inspectors of California will make you eat the whole bag of oranges right there at the border station.

Try to ship milk into California. Their requirements for ANY milk has to meet the standards of the California Agricultural Board. That means that absolutely no raw milk or certain other dairy products from Wisconsin or elsewhere is allowed in.

Their market is CLOSED to outsiders, almost as rigidly as that of China.


91 posted on 03/09/2018 9:05:31 AM PST by alloysteel (There are old pilots, and there are bold pilots. There are no old, bold pilots.)
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To: BBQToadRibs
Can you imagine the tax rate California would have to have to fund it’s liberal social welfare utopia? It would be crushing to business and anyone who actually had a job.

"The problem with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money."- Margaret Thatcher

92 posted on 03/09/2018 9:07:39 AM PST by 60Gunner (The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato)
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To: central_va

How will the international currency markets view a sovereign nation starting out 3/4 of a Trillion in the red and cut off from the US dollar even if they tie its initially issued value to the USD?

https://www.hoover.org/research/californias-pension-indigestion-appetite-fine-dining-while-stuck-fast-food-budget

from the link: ‘Combining all the pension funds in California and recalculating their liabilities based on the principles of finance, as opposed to governmental accounting magic, I find that the collective debts that California taxpayers owe public pension funds is $769 billion — over $60,000 per California household.’


93 posted on 03/09/2018 9:15:59 AM PST by relictele
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To: davikkm

Easy to solve. Simply do a federal audit and enforce the law. That would put the entire California legislature in prison. Then enforce federal immigration laws, that would free the American tax slaves.


94 posted on 03/09/2018 9:20:15 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: davikkm

If they do so, the WALL must turn north at the eastern border of California, to prevent illegal entry to The United States by those who wish to Californicate us.


95 posted on 03/09/2018 9:25:56 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Junk Silver
Dismantling this Republic by getting California to secede is one of George Soros’ most cherished goals.

Why has Herr Soros not yet had an "accident"? Are we not able to get a Patriot near enough? (Self-censored)

96 posted on 03/09/2018 9:30:32 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: alloysteel
Worked on North Korea, didn’t it?

WADR, that is yet to be seen. To the table is not automatic capitulation.

97 posted on 03/09/2018 9:34:26 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: davikkm

California cannot afford a peaceful secession, given the amount of Federal property (i.e., belonging to the rest of us) they would have to purchase or cede.

They can certainly attempt secession using the Laws of War, but the outcome would be, to say the least, problematic for their cause.


98 posted on 03/09/2018 9:36:44 AM PST by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like?)
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To: ScottinVA

That works. The whole state of California isn’t nuts - there are some nice parts. We can keep those. I love the name Insanestan. That is the part of the California that is the problem.


99 posted on 03/09/2018 9:37:26 AM PST by CommerceComet (Hillary: A unique blend of arrogance, incompetence, and corruption.)
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To: SMARTY
They’ll have to recruit, train, equip and pay their OWN army, navy air core, etc.

The PLA Navy would be in San Diego and SF Bay within six months of California independence.

We cannot surrender our West Coast military facilities under any circumstances.

100 posted on 03/09/2018 9:40:24 AM PST by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like?)
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