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Communism and The Collapse of Civilization
YouTube.com and Return to Tradion.org ^ | Tuesday , July 14,2020 | Anthony Stein

Posted on 07/14/2020 2:32:21 PM PDT by WmShirerAdmirer

Mr. Stein quotes Mr.Tomas Schuman's comments on control of the media; his lecture on Soviet ideological subversion through demoralization and destabilization.

Ideas in video are from Yuri Bezmenov, Tomas Schuman (1984). "Soviet Subversion of the Free-World Press: A Conversation with Yuri Bezmenov" (YouTube) (Interview). Interviewed by G. Edward Griffin. Westlake Village, CA. Retrieved 2020-07-08.

Quotes reference Bezmenov, Yuri (1983). Psychological Warfare Subversion & Control of Western Society (YouTube). Los Angeles. Retrieved 2020-07-08

"As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter anymore. A person who is demoralised is unable to assess true information. The facts tell him nothing, even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents and pictures. ...he will refuse to believe it... That's the tragedy of the situation of demoralisation." –Yuri Bezmenov [1983]

all of above from source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_Bezmenov#Notes "


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: america; communism; subversion; toasschuman
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The quotes of Schuman's at the beginning of the video explain everything happening in the US the last few months! Very interesting.

Tomas Schuman's (1984). "Soviet Ideological Subversion of America in Four Stages : Elizabeth Clare Prophet interviews Tomas Schuman, Novosti Press, Soviet defector". Summit University (Audio). Interviewed by Elizabeth Clare Prophet. Malibu, California. OCLC 25714330.

1 posted on 07/14/2020 2:32:21 PM PDT by WmShirerAdmirer
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

I will listen to someone talk about communism when that person has spent 30 years pulling turnips at Turnip Commune #34.


2 posted on 07/14/2020 2:36:27 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

ping


3 posted on 07/14/2020 2:39:03 PM PDT by Lowell1775
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

As Bezmenov explains in the interview, there are four steps to transform the thinking and behavior of the population:

1. Demoralization - this is a process which can take about 15-30 years to perform (a generation). During this stage, the moral fibre and integrity of the country is put into question, thereby creating doubt in the minds of the people. To do so, manipulation of the media and academia is required to influence young people. As the younger generation embraces new values, such as Marxism and Leninism, the older generation slowly loses control simply through attrition. Again, true facts no longer matter during this stage, but rather creating perceptions are of paramount importance.

2. Destabilization - the purpose of this step is to change the status quo, particularly the country’s economy, foreign relations, and defense systems. The intent is to create a massive government permeating society and becoming intrusive in the lives of its citizens. This can take from two to five years to perform, again with the active support of academia pushing youth in this direction. Here, entitlements and benefits are promised to the populace to encourage their support. Basically, they are bribing the people to accept their programs.

Bezmenov claims after this stage is completed, the naive college professors are no longer needed and since they will undoubtedly protest government policies when they discover the truth, they will be disposed of quickly. He cites examples of this occurring in Nicaragua, Grenada, Afghanistan, and Bangladesh.

3. Crisis - this is a major step lasting up to six weeks and involves a revolutionary change of power. This is where a cataclysmic event upsets and divides the country thereby creating panic among the citizens. Recent examples include the 2011 upheavals in the Middle East, most notably Egypt and Libya. To Americans, symptoms would include circumventing the Constitution and altering the checks and balances of government, and possibly martial law.

4. Normalization - the final stage is where the populace finally acquiesces and begins to assimilate communism. This can take up to two decades to complete.


4 posted on 07/14/2020 2:40:12 PM PDT by WmShirerAdmirer
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To: blueunicorn6

Thank you for sharing your filter. I was wondering.


5 posted on 07/14/2020 2:41:07 PM PDT by coaster123 (Distrust everyone under 60.)
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

Bkmrk


6 posted on 07/14/2020 2:42:54 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: blueunicorn6

My younger brother was an idealist and joined a commune back in the late 70s. We had a good upbringing with a strong work ethic. It took less than a year before he quit telling me “I was doing all the work while most of the others were smoking pot”. God bless him.


7 posted on 07/14/2020 3:01:29 PM PDT by Shark24
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To: coaster123

You’re welcome.

Always happy to help out those who need help.


8 posted on 07/14/2020 3:01:34 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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To: blueunicorn6

Good guy! Who else do you help?


9 posted on 07/14/2020 3:03:44 PM PDT by coaster123 (Distrust everyone under 60.)
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To: Shark24

Yep.

No one over the age of 25 believes that socialism/communism works.

Anybody over the age of 25 who is arguing for socialism/communism is doing so because they want you to do their killing so they can live in the palace and ride in the government limousines.


10 posted on 07/14/2020 3:07:07 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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To: blueunicorn6

I will listen to someone talk about communism when that person has spent 30 years pulling turnips at Turnip Commune #34.

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How many years did you spend pulling turnips? Ignorance is bliss you know.


11 posted on 07/14/2020 3:12:03 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: coaster123

Why?

Do you need more help?

You have to be willing to help yourself.

Keep telling yourself, over and over, that with proper supervision, you could someday aspire to be somewhat adequate.


12 posted on 07/14/2020 3:13:00 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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To: PIF

PIF on you, PIF.


13 posted on 07/14/2020 3:14:11 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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To: blueunicorn6
No one over the age of 25 believes that socialism/communism works.

Anybody over the age of 25 who is arguing for socialism/communism is doing so because they want you to do their killing so they can live in the palace and ride in the government limousines.


Anyone who has read any 20th century history knows that Communism not only does not work, but brings misery and mass death wherever it goes; any one who does not know this is ignorant and a useful idiot.

14 posted on 07/14/2020 3:16:52 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF

Well, PIF, looks like you understand.


15 posted on 07/14/2020 3:19:52 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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To: blueunicorn6

Yes, I need more help. Help me be adequate.


16 posted on 07/14/2020 3:22:35 PM PDT by coaster123 (Distrust everyone under 60.)
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Don’t feel bad about being inadequate.

Just keep telling yourself, “I, coaster, can be adequate.”

Set some goals like learning to tie your shoes and feed yourself.

You can do it!


17 posted on 07/14/2020 3:45:59 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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To: blueunicorn6

What makes me inadequate? How have you achieved success?


18 posted on 07/14/2020 3:49:56 PM PDT by coaster123 (Distrust everyone under 60.)
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To: coaster123

Oh.

Now you’re in denial.

You have to be willing to help yourself!

Try those shoes with the Velcro straps!

Don’t just give up!

You can do it!

Strive for adequacy!


19 posted on 07/14/2020 3:57:33 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

Commune/collective or CIVILIZATION?

Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage’s whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of his tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men.

The precondition of a civilized society is the barring of physical force from social relationships—thus establishing the principle that if men wish to deal with one another, they may do so only by means of reason: by discussion, persuasion and voluntary, uncoerced agreement.

The necessary consequence of man’s right to life is his right to self-defense. In a civilized society, force may be used only in retaliation and only against those who initiate its use.

Ayn Rand


20 posted on 07/14/2020 3:59:50 PM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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