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EVs are basically useless in the cold.
Citizen Watch Report ^

Posted on 01/16/2024 10:18:18 AM PST by davikkm

As an electrical engineer, the most glaring problem with EVs is that we simply do not have the grid capacity to power a national EV fleet.

A few months ago some colleagues and I did the analysis for California – Australia is similar.

In order to create the same “power to wheels” as currently provided by gasoline and diesel, California would need to double its generation capacity.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: automotive; blogkaren; blogpimp; charging; cold; eatadeadratkaren; electric; evs; evssuckinthecold; gfykaren; theydrovewithpride; yousweetsummerchild
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To: davikkm

You have to chuckle at the dumbasses lining up at these power stations. They take 3 times as long to charge and it’s only good for half the distance. Since it takes so long, you have people waiting literally 5 and 6 hours or more just to charge their car that will only go 1/3 the distance. These aren’t cheap cars either.


41 posted on 01/16/2024 11:32:42 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: davikkm
Note: This does not include hybrids. Not mine anyway.

Went shopping all morning in sub zero weather and parked outdoors. No cold weather starting troubles either.

42 posted on 01/16/2024 11:34:57 AM PST by Salman (It's not a slippery slope if it was part of the program all along. )
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To: davikkm

All the mileage etc stuff come from the lying government not the manufacturer


43 posted on 01/16/2024 11:43:50 AM PST by butlerweave
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To: PROCON

but your EV will only be dead during the coldest months of the year it will thaw out , maybe ,LOL


44 posted on 01/16/2024 11:46:47 AM PST by butlerweave
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To: davikkm

No, no, no; CaCaLand will simply do what it has done for decades — buy from grids over their borders with other states.


45 posted on 01/16/2024 11:56:54 AM PST by bobbo666 (Baizuo, )
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To: left that other site

Unicorn farts, which are natural gas.


46 posted on 01/16/2024 11:59:43 AM PST by Disambiguator
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To: davikkm

No prob, everyone will just be forced to stay home when temps drop below 70.


47 posted on 01/16/2024 12:15:11 PM PST by fruser1
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To: davikkm

the plan is to force most onto public transportation

so not having enough grid capacity is part of the plan


48 posted on 01/16/2024 12:17:39 PM PST by joshua c
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To: davikkm

I’m no electrical engineer, but I know the basics. I could have told them that their stinkin’ batteries wouldn’t be much good in below-freezing temps. But they would not have listened to me.


49 posted on 01/16/2024 12:18:09 PM PST by I want the USA back (Delusionary people should not be given power over normal people.)
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To: Disambiguator

B-b-but the Unicorns never made it onto the Ark. That’s why they are extinct now. :-)


50 posted on 01/16/2024 12:23:07 PM PST by left that other site (Romans 8:28)
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To: davikkm

I’ve been waiting a while to reply “Oh you sweet summer child...” to some leftist, and now is as good a time as any. A nice Game of Thrones meme back in the day, before the idiot writers tanked the last couple of seasons...


51 posted on 01/16/2024 12:29:01 PM PST by Horkster (Cho-Bai-Den - resident-inept)
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To: left that other site

If hydrocarbons are made up of decayed organic matter, why does one of our outer planet moons Titan have seas of methane?


52 posted on 01/16/2024 12:30:36 PM PST by reviled downesdad (Some of the lost will never believe the Truth and will hate you for it.)
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To: reviled downesdad

Methane definiely comes from farts, so I think that it comes from the 7th planet. Which I will decline to name, LOL.


53 posted on 01/16/2024 12:43:42 PM PST by left that other site (Romans 8:28)
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To: EVO X

So either a room has to be heated that the car can be in to charge properly, or the battery has to use some power to keep itself warm. Either way we’re talking additional power requirements. BTW, if charging takes even just a half hour then people are going to want a place to chill. Every charging station should have a Starbucks or similar where both the people and their cars can enter.


54 posted on 01/16/2024 12:47:56 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear (What is left around which to circle the wagons?)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
Part of the problem too is this is about Chicago -- an urban area. Basically a lot of people there can't charge at home because they live in apartments, or perhaps in a house but they have to park on the street.

Contrast that with where I live: north central Alabama in a somewhat rural/somewhat suburban area. The few EV owners here charge at home. The fast road-side chargers here are used only by travelers. Thus, those chargers have few people at them. Plus, the warm weather means the cold effect hardly happens here. Last but not least, because of our somewhat rural driving habits we tend to drive a lot more miles to go to town and back (making an EV worth considering since the gas savings might be worth the costs of an EV).

55 posted on 01/16/2024 12:51:14 PM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Tell It Right

I would imagine right about now Elon Musk is banging his head against the wall.


56 posted on 01/16/2024 1:02:53 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: bigbob

bigbob wrote: “Unless they live in urban areas that get cold.”

You’re missing the point. They live in urban areas and have no intention of owning an EV. If they need a car ride, they intend to call for a shared ride service. They intend to fly for long trips. Consequently, the shortcomings of EV does not matter to them.


57 posted on 01/16/2024 1:07:43 PM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

There is not much open after about 10:00 PM or so. I live at the cross roads of of I57/I74..


58 posted on 01/16/2024 2:18:28 PM PST by EVO X ( )
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To: davikkm
In order to create the same “power to wheels” as currently provided by gasoline and diesel, California would need to double its generation capacity.
The same could have been said in 1965:
In order to end poverty through federal welfare programs, the United States would need to double its economic capacity while halving its workforce.

59 posted on 01/16/2024 3:39:40 PM PST by nicollo ("This is FR!")
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To: davikkm

4 gallons of gas has more energy then the entire battery pack of an electric Ford F-150


60 posted on 01/18/2024 8:57:29 PM PST by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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