Posted on 11/26/2003 3:31:04 PM PST by blam
Edited on 11/20/2004 12:49:24 PM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]
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Note: this topic is from 11/26/2003. Thanks blam.And because of your comment:
Professor Mike Baillie believes a comet fragment crashed into the Celtic Sea around the 540AD time frame and started the Dark Ages. Maybe that is one reason for looking else where. Also, King Arthur is widly believed to have died at this same 540AD date.What choice do I have than to ping the C list?
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The first i’d heard of this theory was several years ago, when the, probably apocryphal, story of a Welsh pastor being captured by injuns in the 1700s. He recited a prayer in Welsh, and his captures understood him!
I don’t see how you can call him anything OTHER than british.
The land was called Britannia by the Romans. That’s how it stayed until the formation of England in the 700s. If prince madoc lived in 500s, then he was truly a Briton
"NYAAH HA HA HA! I'M TAKING YOUR MIND!"
Oh, wait, Madoc....sorry...
Some threads never die.
Cassiodorus reported strange atmospheric phenomena from 534-6, which involved weak sun, much summer cold, crop failures, strange color of the sky, etc. There are also Chinese records of that period reporting famine, etc. Perhaps Arthur II was killed in 540 by the plague that swept Europe about that time caused by the previous years of famine and subsequent population weakness. Then about 20 years later 562 the next generation, probably with the same or similar names sailed for the new world. Gloria Farley’s book has many interesting examples of Celtic writing and religious figures up various river systems.
It just occurred to me, doesn’t ap mean son of or like junior? Or am I remembering this wrong? If true, then it strengthen’s my previous comment.
Any history is always told in the senses of the time in which the historian writes it. It tells as much about the time in which it was written as the time written about, if the reader is deep enough to read for it.
And too, the reader of any history so written reads and interprets through his lenses and understandings which are of the the reader’s own time.
Donovan - Atlantis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXt2yZ6jn58
They were under heavy pressure from the English too at the time.
Perhaps the east coast native americans were holding out for two bags of beads and Madoc was just simply not willing to pay that much...
British as in Ancient British. Celtic, as opposed to Anglo-Saxon “English”.
It’s not only part of the King Arthur legend, it’s a very common component of many “hero” legends...the great hero dies protecting his people, but his love and dedication are so great that he will come alive/wake up if they are ever threatened again. It’s a common meme.
Didn’t Madeleine L’Engle already tell us about this?
Born the same year as my mother.
Bump for later
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