When UFOs Arrive

www.popularmechanics.com ^ | February 2004 | BY JIM WILSON

[biblewonk]

Hmm.... If we say that everything the Bible says is literally true (leaving aside the whole "created in God's image" problem), I'm not sure the existence of microbes necesarily is a problem. After all, the Bible can be literally true, but at the same time it can be incomplete. I don't think the Bible ever claims to be a complete description of everything in reality.

No, infact it claims to be the opposite at the very end of John where it says that if all the books were written do describe all that Jesus did, the world wouldn't hold all of the books. But there are certain things that it is complete and exhaustive about. It says God can't lie therefore we can't find a lie that was excluded. It is this type of logic that leads us to believe the world is the spiritual center of the universe and that evolution is impossible based on the organization of the things created in the 6 days of creation.

[ItsTheMediaStupid]

What if theangels of the bible are alien creatures who has done Gods bidding? The gold chariots are space craft plated with gold or gold film for radiation protection.

[biblewonk]

What? You must be reading some other book with the title "Bible".

[biblewonk]

Sorry, no life has been found other than on the earth.

[Chris Talk]

The asteroids have no gold, that is only on Earth. In any usable quantities. Heavy metals nowhere near surface elsewhere. In THIS SS, at least.

[Chris Talk]

Tell it to NASA.

[stuartcr]

Why do you think aliens would have a religion?

[ItsTheMediaStupid]

Heavy metals nowhere near surface elsewhere.

Pretty sure there have been small traces. Many asteroids have iron. Most of the surface of Mars has iron, which is why it has a red color.

[biblewonk]

Why, they haven't said different.

[Modernman]

Being an SF fan and a gamer, I've tried to imagine some alien religions.

Or, imagine how advanced humans will deal with religion. There was a sci-fi trilogy a few years back by Peter Hamilton called The Reality Dysfunction. In it, there was a group of humans, called Edenists, who had figured out a way to transfer their consciousness, upon death, into a sort of group mind. Effectively, this made them immortal. Doing this got them excommunicated by all of humanity's religions.

I wonder how our current religions will hold up a thousand years from now? Will genetically engineered humans living in habitats built in asteroid fields be able to relate in any way to the story of a Jewish carpenter or an Arabian tribal prophet?

[Modernman]

The asteroids have no gold, that is only on Earth. In any usable quantities. Heavy metals nowhere near surface elsewhere. In THIS SS, at least.

I'm not sure we know enough about the composition of the rest of the solar system to know whether this is true or not. Do you have a source?

[The SISU kid]

Actually, the cook book thing comes from "How to serve man"
either "The Outer Limits" or Twilight-Zone"...


8^)

[goldilucky]

This is extremely fascinating stuff here. I like this alot. It explains why our government is hiding these demons from us. Explains a lot of things.

I remember when my brother was chased by these things while driving home several years back. On account of his story which my mom (who also witnessed them too) told me later, I told her to tell him to pray because those things he encountered were demons. And that he needed to push them away very much. It is not so much that he be afraid of them but that he rebuke them in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. I don't know if my mom ever passed that info to him. My mom, being Catholic, seems to believe that praying to the mother Mary is more divine than that of Jesus Christ. She also doesn't have much faith in God very much.

[bootless]

[grin]

I love that movie. Now I can't get "It's Not Unusual" out of my head!

ACK ACK!

[Quix]

MY PERSONAL, off the cuff opinion on this article is as follows:

1) I think it is an archiac--30-45 years out of date protocal with some authenticity--drug out of moth balls as one more micro puzzle piece to help prepare the populace for what Werner Von Braun asserted in ~1974 would follow the Iraq war we've just undergone--as scheduled by the puppet masters. i.e. according to him--an unnecessary, trumped up war with ET in space. Werner seemed to be of the opinion that all the ET's he knew about were benign to benevolent.

I personally think the puppet masters have it set up so that they think they can manage a squeeze play--they can play it either way--perhaps somehow both ways--that ET's are benign or benevolent or hostile and must be fought. ALL SUCH leading inexorably to the tyrannical global government that The Bible describes is slated for our era--after Israel became a nation again in a day in 1948.

2. The reality--as I accept it--is that we've been having ongoing technological and other 'relations' with various ET races for several decades--at least since not long after 1947. I trust my relative's assertions about such things given his working around such contexts on a daily basis. On top of that are other contacts I've had with people in positions to know. Add to that tons of convincing reading.

I don't know what percentage of what I've been told and have read is disinformation and what is absolute truth. But I have come to believe that at least some structural outlines of the puzzle are essentially true or close to true.

I don't really care to be flamed about all this. And, I'm too busy these days to want to bother trying to do people's searches for them for the info on the net. I've studied this topic at least since 1962. I don't even try any more to keep even all the books--much less the 100's upon 100's of articles filed or orderly or even kept at all.

I put things on my intelelctual, philosophical, information 'mental shelf' and wait and see what God confirms; what falls off into the realm of 'normal reality'--whatever THAT is.

I *TEND TO* treat thing that are from a multitude of evidently, logically independent, disconnected, DIVERSE sources as likely to be more reliable. And, when a data bit collects a host of diverse perspectives on it, I tend to notice it more and give it more credence.

I also believe that UFO's are *PART* of what The Bible talks about when it mentions SIGNS IN THE HEAVENS regarding the end times of history as we've known it.

I believe the more common races of ET's are in cahoots with satan to cooperate with or be a part of what the Bible talks about as THE GREAT DECEPTION of the end times. I postulated 30+ years ago that ET's would end up trying to 'prove' that the Deity of Christ was not valid. I postulated then some sort of window onto purported history as part of this ET hoax. I the last 20 or so years, bits of info have come out about a VERY THICK book in government hands on ET'S AND RELIGION. Also, that there are supposedly holographic videos on historical events. Supposedly the ET's have shown that they created Buddha, Christ and other spiritual leaders for social stability reasons with the humans that they supposedly engineered [us] and placed on earth. I consider all such essentially part of a satanic hoax planned over thousands of years.

Thankfully, God has everything in control and will end up using ALL THIS for HIS GLORY.

But, I think along the way, UFO's and ET's etc. will be PART of what causes people of our era, as the Bible says--to have heart failure out of fear.

Anyway--enough of preliminary pontifications. I plan to respond to those posts which interest me in the thread--for whatever amusement it may afford anyone.

[Quix]

Currently, this is all nonsense--this point was passed long ago. And we had no such control over the process at all. Perhaps with some of the first captured ET's we effected such protocals for a period of time. But mostly, this is archaic nonsense.

[Quix]

Essentially . . . locked up with a lot of ET technology.

We can't afford to have decentralized energy such that individuals and households would be so FREEEEE

now can we! The puppet masters would lose tooooooo much CONTROL!

[Quix]

I have no idea what you're referring to.

HOWEVER, per, for example, the recent UFO programs on the HISTORY CHANNEL . . . the UFO phenomenon is alive and however well/unwell it is. The HISTORY CHANNEL programs disclosed bits of puzzle pieces that had not been disclosed or not been disclosed in such a relatively solid way theretofore.

This is pretty standard. There's been a snail's pace, incremental disclosure of more and more puzzle pieces the last at least 40+ years. Some seems to have been deliberate disclosure. Some seems to have been 'outted' by people involved. Some has been pure disinformation. Plenty has been a mixture. And we have no real way of sorting it all out at this point from our laymen, public distances.

[Quix]

ACTUALLY,

WE are the ones treated as a subject on the VETERNARY operating table.

Certainly they and/or government units pretending to be them--I tend to believe BOTH have operated--at least ET's have been coring and harvesting beef parts for decades. Chillingly, there are also reliable reports of INDIVIDUAL HUMANS TREATED THE SAME WAY with the same body parts as from cattle excised supposedly for decades with a procedure beyond, initially beyond, our capabilities. Also, just the thoroughness of the blood being drained without leaving any drops anywhere--that thoroughness was also beyond our capabilities. Not nice behavior on the part of ET's. And certainly not fun for the vicitms.

[Quix]

They have plenty of mother ships about in deep space. I don't doubt that.

Supposedly, their base(s) on the moon were one of the reasons we were ordered out of space and to not return to the moon. It's interesting now that Bush has said we're going back. I wonder what's changed.