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Is The End Of The World As WeKnow It Right Around The Corner? (Lunacy or The Coverup Of History?)
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Posted on 06/02/2004 8:23:38 AM PDT by Happy2BMe

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WARNING:  If talk about "End Time Events" disturbs you in any way, please, and we do mean, please leave this article. It is without doubt, the most disturbing end time scenario we have ever seen, mainly because of the references, articles and coincidences that the writer points to. We are not admitting the information revealed is accurate, but it does sound like events described in Revelation, in fact, the person who is posting the messages makes references to this fact and they are not a Christian.  With that said, here is the article:

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Dear Bush Country,

Like I asked you to do in the last article I sent you, please keep my name off this article as individuals who have leaked this information have had their lives threatened. The information below is from the same individual who was posting comments on the forum I was following a couple of weeks ago that I sent to you.  Problem is, it seems as though the Government or someone up high found out about that thread because they started messing with it, so the individual (who is called Aussie Bloke) went to another forum to continue it, this is that continuation.  It starts off talking about the same things as the other thread poster was doing: a dust cloud that is coming, meteor/comets that will be hitting the earth, and gives a time frame for it. However, he does reveal more about what is coming. 

When I saw this, I began to follow the thread and now feel as though it is time to send to you.  I will send a third one after this individual gets back from saying goodbye to his family.  I have slanted  his comments, along with a few other individuals that made comments on the bulletin board, although I mainly provide the Australian guys comments because this is where the info was coming from.  Hold your hats, it may just be a very scary summer!

Aussie Bloke
4/29/2004
1:12 am EDT

As I keep saying...LOOK TO THE SKIES! It would seem some people out there are doing this...keep it up...but I must warn you all of something. The last time I told EXACTLY what I know the forum I posted it on was shut down and another one was so screwed up with virus freaks that it lost the plot. I cannot say which forum it was because if I do they will be onto me and shut this one down too...and that would be a real shame. This forum so far has been one of the best. Lots of different people with different opinions and some of you actually have brains and functioning eyeballs. Hopefully some of you have a decent set of lenses and a good dose of common sense. DON'T believe the crap the government keeps throwing at you. I used to work for them...I know how they operate. Just keep on looking...its there...nasty....real...and imminent. Its only a matter of time now.
I will post a SWAN pic of the three comets (the third one is an anomaly - not certain what it is). Here’s the link to the pic:
http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/summary/swan/latest_swan
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Aussie Bloke
5/9/2004
1:12 am EDT

PEOPLE....there IS IN FACT some very SERIOUS and DEVASTATING objects coming our way RIGHT NOW!!!!! RUN and try to survive. It will be the biggest light show in the history of the world.

Anonymous Coward
5/9/2004
1:19 am EDT

To Aussie Bloke,

How do you know for sure that an object is coming our way? Did you see it with your own eyes? I am not saying you are lying or you are loony I am just asking simple question because no one can say for sure when exactly if at all those comets will hit us. Unless of course you saw or know something that we don't

Thank you.


Ausie Bloke
5/9/2004
4:22 am EDT

OK....seems I have got at least SOME peoples attention. Some people want to know what I have seen and observed...very well then. BUT...before I go on I will say one thing about all this doom and gloom stuff. I am over 60 years old. I have seen it come and seen it go. I watched the computer age being born. I have seen and heard every type of doom and gloom scenario you could imagine. All my life I have watched the skies and believe me...I know when something is NOT right with things. I have observed over the years a steady increase of the knowledge that something aint right with the universe in general. For years now...longer than most of you have been alive...I have seen the indoctrination of doom spread across mankind's face. People are not what they used to be and things have changed a lot. AND NOW....after many years of planning and indoctrination...what they were subconsciously preparing us for is at our very doorstep. You see...I cannot blame the powers that be for covering up what they know...and they know a hell of a lot....I used to work for them. Crying wolf always works. Spread "false" alarm and when nothing happens...then everyone sleeps once more...only they will be much harder to awaken NEXT time. NOW....the wolf is here...and we all sleep. LOOK this way....LOOK that way....LOOK everywhere but where we WANT you to look. AND THEN!!! someone sees it...and thinks ITS REAL!!!!....WHAT DO I DO?" so they run off to warn...and get laughed at. I have seen this many many times. Like now....the same thing. SO...that being said I will tell you what is coming toward us. I will not give a date because it is variable so that would be pointless. But I will give you a definite timeframe to either prepare...or die....your choice. The object coming at us...or OBJECTS as such...are in fact similar (but not the same) as what you have already been told about. It IS a comet...of sorts...surrounded by a hell of a lot of debris. There will be several impacts of differing sizes spread over the globe. The bombardment will last a week or so at most. The largest fragment will rock the planet and the smaller ones will wipe out a city here or there depending on where they come down. There WILL be quakes and firestorms and major flooding of coastlines due to ocean impacts. Yes...it will be much like the movie "deep impact" only worse. The good news is....we will NOT be destroyed by a "Big One" as such. There will be no "America saves the day" scenario here either. This is reality...not a movie. Mankind will survive...but at great cost. On the other hand...it MAY...and I mean MAY miss us...but it wont be by much. But so far it does not look too good...and time is fast running out for a last minute miracle...but one can only hope. The timeframe...yes...I know you were saying "well...what about the TIME?"...so here it is. WITHIN SIX TO EIGHT WEEKS we will either all be dead or wish we were...OR....hopefully...we will be saying "THANK GOD IT JUST MISSED US". But personally from my observations and what I know from days past...it WONT MISS...that is....the fragments wont miss. The comet may miss...the fragments WONT...PERIOD. Prepare yourself for the biggest light show you have ever seen. I am not into religion as such but I have been around long enough to at least give SOME credence to the ancient writings. I too have read revelation and other prophecies...and this coming event fits in rather well with the bit in revelation about the stars falling from heaven and the sky rolling up like a scroll and the moon turning to blood (by the way. this is EXACTLY what will happen while passing through the debris cloud).....read it yourself...you have eyes. Oh yes....one little interesting fact I forgot to mention here. 25 years ago I was at an astronomer’s convention in Canberra and we were discussing the possible effects of the debris cloud of the crab nebula passing through our solar system in 2000 to 2005. I wonder if this may have something to do with all the "stories" and such about nibiru and other similar stuff?? Something to ponder. And by the way....don’t go expecting me to give technical details and other rubbish like that. I am only talking to astronomers and scientists here. THEY can look and thus confirm what I am saying. THEN they can tell you what they see...IF indeed they look in the right direction with the right lenses....and most probably get laughed at for their trouble. You see...I am sick to death of having to explain myself and I have become rather impatient over the years with ignorant know it alls who THINK they have it all worked out. 25 years ago we wondered what to tell people about the approaching debris cloud...among other things....and we just could not answer the question. Who knows...perhaps we were wrong on our calculations...but personally I pray we are NOT. I would rather the world was woken up by a natural disaster than a nuclear one....at least you can rebuild after meteors...but you cannot rebuild after radiation...at least not for a long long time.

Aussie Bloke
5/9/2004
8:59 pm EDT Re: 16 April 2004 - VOL #3

OK then.....got some stuff stirred up. I thought that bit about the crab nebula would get the debunkers to identify themselves. It worked well. Just goes to show you how easily people are led in one direction or another. Serious astronomers know which debris cloud I am talking about and now I know we have some here. GREAT....now I can talk freely. Yes indeed...there IS a debris cloud passing through our solar system. They have attached all sorts of names to it...photon belt....nibiru.....and what have you. BUT the debris cloud will not do any damage as such...what it HAS done is stirred up the oort cloud in a big way. Blame nibiru as much as you want....it is a good whipping post after all and it DOES cause controversy which keeps EVERYONE arguing while the REAL wolf approaches. Good tactic of the PTB I must say. I have watched it all unfold like clockwork and the plan is working perfectly. Everyone is at each others throat...as planned...and STILL none of you are correct simply because the PTB has misdirected you ALL. Ever seen that movie "Swordfish"? prime example of misdirection tactics. Throw some wars...fake some terror....blow up a couple of buildings....and generally KEEP everyone from seriously watching the skies. It funny how they jumped up and down about Hale Bopp....BIG media event...or non event. AND NOW and even BIGGER show is here and its all hush hush. Those who try to make it public are ridiculed and laughed at. Soho always going down...observatories around the world "under repair"...oh how convenient. We knew all along what would happen and to be honest its for the best. Imagine six billion people KNOWING they may die going NUTS. It HAD to be concealed to the very last moment. And now the truth is there in the skies and on the net...but hey...who takes these nut case doom and gloomers seriously....which is all well and good. Throw in a fake wolf here...another there...and what do you get? A soundly sleeping populace snoring quietly through the coming doom. EXACTLY as PLANNED. Its for our own good. Live it up and have a lot of fun while you can.

P.S. About the debris cloud....can you think of a better explanation as to why the sun is almost a white star, explain the massive increase in meteorites and comets lately or why the sky (even on clear days) seems fuzzy?
www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/2566165 Can YOU think of a better way to keep the public uninformed than what I have described? Tell me...if YOU were the PTB what would YOU do....would you TELL everyone of their impending deaths...OR if you knew about it would YOU put a plan into action to keep everyone asleep. Comets approaching fast and no one is looking for it...a job well done.

Aussie Bloke
5/10/2004
6:15 pm EDT

Hmmmm....seems you have done some research...and yes...your hypothesis is reasonable and would also explain a few anomalies of late....well done I must say. Its time to wake up people...we have few weeks left. The movie "day after tomorrow" is nothing compared to what will REALLY happen. They are still on the job psychologically preparing us all for what is to come. AND NO!! I will NOT tell you EXACTLY until the LAST MOMENT what is coming....do your own homework as some of you have. You are very close...and getting warmer. Look up "SUPER NOVA" AND 2-0 bc. that is one clue and only a part of the puzzle. At the time we discovered these things we could only hypothesize...now we know our original hypothesis was indeed correct. The oort cloud has been stirred. Soon the sun will vanish behind a cloud of thick dust...and all hell will reign on earth as we receive impact after impact. Why do you think they invented a telescope that can look through DUST!! HMMMMM??? they will NEED it very shortly to plot the course of incoming objects so as to try to blast them out of the sky. WHY do you thing they have re instated the cold war weapons of missile defense??? TO SHOOT THE BLOODY THINGS DOWN!!!! Boys and girls...its time to get real here. We are all in very VERY close range of our doom...and STILL some of you are to brainwashed by all the distractions to see what is REALLY going on. Well....so called debunkers....you DO do a good job of keeping the controversy going. Wont matter anymore anyway. You are all in fact already DEAD and are just waiting for the reality of it to sink in. YOU will walk blindly to your deaths laughing all the way...when SUDDENLY the sun will darken...and the moon WILL turn the color of blood...and death will rain down in the form of nickel-iron chunks of doom moving VERY VERY FAST!!! and you will have only a week or so to realize your death is imminent...and you will remember my words and the warnings of others...and think to yourself:- THEY WERE RIGHT!!!!

Aussie Bloke
5/10/2004
7:10 pm EDT

Well Well Well.....I do have a somewhat "in your face" approach don’t I? The reason being is simply because I have been trying to warn people for years and years...explaining myself again and again. Do you have ANY idea how bloody frustrating this can get? Another thing...about 2012...what is about to happen now is only the BEGINNING of our sorrows. Mankind WILL survive to a large extent the original bombardment...BUT...the fighting that will break out later over the few resources left will do most of the damage. One half of the population will die more or less instantly...the rest will be bled off over the next few years...until 2012. I am NOT going to tell you what is coming THEN because by then no one will care and even if I told you now it wont matter. Maybe its natures way of deleting the virus called HUMANITY.

Aussie Bloke
5/10/2004
9:02 pm EDT

Very Good ladies and gentlemen. Seems you have done some digging. Getting close...and then BAM!! the site shuts down because certain people hit the nail RIGHT ON THE HEAD....be careful what you reveal. This site is watched VERY closely. Every ten seconds or so a hack attempt is made on my pc....explain THAT. Seems we are getting to the nitty gritty...they are VERY interested in stopping me. Too many clues. I thought they would not bother...but hey...maybe I was wrong. If it was going to happen next week they wouldn’t care but we still have a few weeks left. OK...time for some more clues. This will piss them of BIGTIME...LOL

Key words:- Dust cloud...super nova...centre...interference...cosmic storm...oort cloud....debris...shockwave....1978-79....ETA.2000 to 20005.....gamma.....influx of comets.....NEO.....solar max extended....white dwarf.....distract.....polar drift.....anomalies....unpredictable.

Have fun...only weeks left to solve the puzzle...and when you do...TELL ALL...I WILL...for then it will be too late to shut me or this site down.

Aussie Bloke
5/11/2004
2:42 am EDT Re: Aussie Bloke Vol.#1

Oh well...at least this saves me the trouble of starting my own thread. I’m afraid I lost the plot with some ____head Americans (you are not all ____heads by the way) and went of the beam with some rather insulting words....true words...but insulting nonetheless. That aside I have decided that due to all the bull I am receiving just because I am not getting technical enough I will NOT give anyone the satisfaction of KNOWING FOR SURE.....YET. I have waited for over two decades for this time...and its HERE boys and girls. I really don't care if you think I am legit. Think what you bloody want to think...or should I say...think as THEY (the PTB) want you to think...right up until its raining DEATH. Its coming...I promise you...IT IS COMING....but bugger me if I will let my exact technical knowledge out until three days BEFORE first impact. THEN you will have your proof...and it will be too late then. Some of you if you have any brains will research FAST the clues I gave because they lead to other clues. I will give no more...YET...have fun with what you know for now. IF someone can find EXACTLY what I am getting at THEN I will announce to EVERYONE on the forum EXACTLY what I know...HOW I found it out....WHEN I first learned of the imminent impacts and so on. ALL will be revealed...but YOU must do your homework. When I finally DO let the cat all the way out of the bag...THEN you will know...oh yes...then you will know it all. I will show you beyond a shadow of ANY doubt the REAL TRUTH. You will be able to verify everything I say. Not all of it can be found on the net. Actually I will be surprised if you DO find what I am referring to on the net, Try old libraries and archives. You will find some very interesting...and long buried FACTS in those places. I have given you the key words...the ones you need for now. WHEN you return with your homework I will reveal MORE...until the puzzle fits. BUT do not be surprised if when the real truth dawns you go a bit insane....you will feel the deepest sense of betrayal by your government you could imagine. Thus the reason they will never tell you what is coming they have lied to and manipulated us all...except those of us who KNEW from the beginning like myself. At the last week I will tell who I am...and then you will know WHY I had to remain hidden. It is also the reason WHY I never get technical because if I did I would expose myself. There are only so many 60+ astronomers in
Australia who know what I know. If I were to tip my hand the game would be up...and then you would never know the truth. I will wait until there is nothing they can do to me before I stop speaking in riddles...the time will come however...very soon...when I will tell all. But do some searching yourself as well.

Aussie Bloke
5/11/2004
7:27 pm EDT Re: Aussie Bloke Vol.#1

AS to the sun getting dark...THIS will be due to the thick dust cloud approaching. You wont see it yet because most scopes WONT see BLACK. It will NOT occult the stars until it is at our doorstep. It approaches south of the ecliptic...BIG surprise for everybody. The approaching comet...well...THAT will either HIT or MISS...as I said...it is variable so don't expect a date because even WE couldn't figure it out. All we know is this...SIX TO EIGHT WEEKS. The meteor showers we can expect DEFINITELY...and as for November and the rest of 2005....well...it just gets worse. BUT...we will have no internet so I will tell ALL....VERY SOON. Some people have already hit a couple of nails on the head...but only PART of the truth has been found so far. It is MORE than just the Meteors....a LOT more...but that is part of it and ties in. It will all fit together...you will see...Have a nice day....good job homework doers...KEEP IT UP...you are finding the truth. Its out there. Remember the key words...they tie into OTHER clues. Keep hitting those nails. And as for you idiots out there who laugh...WHY don't you show us how intelligent YOU are and PROVE ME WRONG...I DARE YOU!!! you will NOT like what you find if indeed you search at all. I look forward to seeing YOU quietly disappear and show up under a different name...it will be funny to watch...HAVE FUN.

Aussie Bloke
5/12/2004
1:43 am EDT Re: Aussie Bloke Vol.#1

Threw a tantrum hey? Proven WRONG was I? I love you debunkers you are sooooo entertaining. By the way no one has YET to prove me wrong...in fact the clues I gave are only serving to show that I am correct, and I am correct because...get this...WE WERE THE FIRST ONES TO DISCOVER THE DAMN THING. You can spout off all you want...it wont change the fact. Just to give you something to chew on I will in future posts put more purposefully wrong info in just to keep you entertained. Those of us who KNOW...THE INTELLIGENT ONES...will not be sidetracked by it. And no...I am NOT a troll...I am fair dinkum...true blue.

One person who was researching the clues that Aussie Bloke was giving, came across this info, and here was his post:


Check THIS out!!!!
5/12/2004
2:03 am EDT Re: Aussie Bloke Vol.#1

T-199.80..:-5-004.1.887(993.56)ETA:-24:34.INC
T-005.83..:-5-004.3.733(447.34)ETA:-05:51.INC
T-003.48..:-6-004.5.735(693.72)ETA:-10:37.INC?

MDC:-DIA=1.43..AU VEL as follows:-0.000234 LS
:-0.000138 LS
:-0.000319 LS

PTOI 1.9558.56 WE 10098.56 SE TTI+ETA(^&.99)
ETS SH=27/6/04? Tracking VEL US at this time.
PROJECTED POA UNKNOWN

T-199.80..:-5-004.1.887 INBOUND AT (sec.com) NAV 335.78+09.456(EMP=.0045) PSM.0012.


Aussie Bloke
5/12/2004
2:29 am EDT Re: Aussie Bloke Vol.#1

Who the hell posted THAT!!! YOU IDIOT!!! DON'T tell them YET...why do I even bother...the cats out of the bag...good one idiot. They work it out and then goodbye everyone. Oh well...there it is ladies and gentlemen...IF you can work the codes...its there in black and white. I think I know who posted this....I am onto you. Party pooper.

Aussie Bloke
5/12/2004
9:29 pm EDT Re: Aussie Bloke Vol.#1

T-199.80..:-5-004.1.887(993.56)ETA:-24:34.INC
T-005.83..:-5-004.3.733(447.34)ETA:-05:51.INC
T-003.48..:-6-004.5.735(693.72)ETA:-10:37.INC?

Interesting the way he coded it. Maybe I should "uncode" some of it for you. But if I do all the fun will be spoiled. So I will simply clarify a few things here and there. - is + ETA:- Estimated Time of Arrival

T- is t minus and counting....the times are mixed up but correct...YOU decide which one will hit first.

INC is Incoming Now Confirmed.....as you can see there is a question mark. It is a vital clue...by the way...THAT one is the one we are really worried about. It is somewhat unpredictable and none of us can explain why. THAT is why it is called an "anomaly"...UNKNOWN.

MDC:-DIA=1.43..AU VEL as follows:-0.000234 LS
:-0.000138 LS
:-0.000319 LS
The above is clear enough for you to work out.

AHHH...now we have some interesting numbers here.
PTOI is Projected Time Of Impact.

The numbers are self explanatory....WE is west and SE is South east. YOU know what the numbers mean...just look at a map and work it out. The numbers COULD be (hint) in reverse order or mixed up...but they are correct. I don't want to take all the fun out of it for you.

(^&.99) IS a percentage probability...you were correct.

PTOI 1.9558.56 WE 10098.56 SE TTI+ETA(^&.99)
ETS SH=
27/6/04? Tracking VEL US at this time.
PROJECTED POA UNKNOWN
PSM is PER SIMULATION MODEL
The numbers are hours or days...or both (hint) have fun.
T-199.80..:-5-004.1.887 INBOUND AT (sec.com) NAV 335.78+09.456(EMP=.0045) PSM.0012.

To put it all into plain English I will say this. PAY ATTENTION PLEASE. Work this out and you will have all your answers.

There are THREE incoming objects. TWO of them we know a lot about...but the third one is an unknown...all we know is it is coming and it has a high probability of hitting us. The other two WILL hit us. Along with these three main objects are many many smaller ones...it will rain death all over the world for a week or so. The death rain as we call it will begin late June. Leading up to June you can expect a wonderful light show as millions of small meteorites enter our atmosphere. I keep saying look south...but it is hard for most of the world to do this...unless you live down under and know exactly where to look and WHAT to look for. Immediately preceding the impacts, the earth...in fact the entire solar system...will be shrouded in thick black space dust. NASA will try..and indeed they already ARE trying to knock these objects of course. Next month is their last chance. ALL the satellites including the ISS will be obliterated and re enter the atmosphere causing the release of tons of toxic fumes into our air. On top of that you have multiple impacts all over the world and tidal waves like you could not imagine sweeping EVERY coastline around the world. THERE WILL BE NO PLACE TO HIDE. THOSE who for some reason survive will soon wish they had NOT. AFTER this all occurs humanity will emerge from their burrows...those that had one and lived....and proceed to kill each other just to keep living. The government will take control...or try to...and enforce their will on ALL. THE safest place to be is Australia well away from the coast...but even THAT is only a guess at this time because we simply do not know what "anomaly" will do as yet. So to counter all this we have a lot of distractions at present...wars...torture...beheadings...and for some reason interest rates are about to go up again. Keeps everyone focused on the here and now....or next year....ANYTHING but next month!! Watch the CNN...get all the latest "fair and balanced" CRAP...keep your minds away from next month...keep it focused on the elections and "next year"...keep focused on you debts...keep focused on the "war"...UP the alert to RED...declare martial law...and BAM...they got ya trapped. Nowhere to run and no WAY to hide. Now....you can believe all this and...you still die...OR you can label me a fruit loop and you STILL die.....either way you still die...and if you go to the beach and hang around it will be quick at least.


Aussie Bloke
5/12/2004
11:05 pm EDT Re: Aussie Bloke Vol.#1

IF everyone knew who I was and where I am...you would at this time be running for the hills in a big way. I will soon be posting very credible and verifiable information...NO MORE RIDDLES. THIS forum is tagged now....so I will not stuff around much longer. You wonder WHY I get so pissed at you idiots. So many days of doom have come and gone...so many different scenarios of doom...and NOT ONE of them has even come close to revealing the wolf. They skirt around it and mention all the signs. Now the time for the real show to begin and everybody is laughing...as planned. But it IS frustrating. The nibiru crowd...paid by the gov....the photon belt crowd...the same...they are ALL paid to give ANY explanation EXCEPT the real one. False dates are common...keeps you in fear and when it comes and goes back to sleep you go. You have been steadily desensitized over the years to doom. ALL THOSE MOVIES OF LATE!!! Now it is on our doorstep....and laughter is all we hear...and I cannot blame you in a way. The PTB has done rather well. I cant blame them. Can you imagine the UTTER CHAOS that would result if we all knew the truth. WHAT IF they had told you all the truth ten years ago....no more babies...no more industry...just a ten year long party of "eat drink and be merry....for in ten years we all die"....THINK about it. NOW we will see what its all been about...all the wars...the fighting over oil....the constant distractions...the recent influx of meteorites...the weird behavior of our sun....the weird orbit of the moon...the wobble of our axis...the warming of the atmosphere and oceans...ALL DUE TO FRICTION.....and the friction is due to the dust. And it will get worse and worse. WHAT about all the wild and wooly weather...record temps....hot when it should be cold and so on? Global warming my a__. Did you ever wonder exactly WHY they only started talking about it shortly after the cloud was first detected in the late 70´s.? They had to come up with a plausible reason for what they knew was coming. Then they reasoned that not everyone would be so gullible...so they created nibiru and photon belts and half a dozen OTHER explanations...but the dust cloud was long buried...until NOW...and suddenly.....THE FORUM SCREWS UP WITH HACKS AND TRIPS. TAGGED...like so many others I have visited. I will not tell you which ones...I don't want to give them a trail and I NEVER post from the same computer in more than one forum. THEY want me BAD. Laugh if you want...its what they programmed you to do....but I promise you...the days of laughter are fast coming to an end. When I expose them...this forum will cease to exist. THEN...onto another one from a different location. Only a few weeks left. I am surprised I have posted THIS much without them shutting it down. I have already stated what WILL happen and WHEN....but I have not been exactly specific...for a purpose....but very soon I will...and then...well....its over.

Aussie Bloke
5/12/2004
11:49 pm EDT Re: "Aussie bloke" Vol X

I am Australian. In 1975 I lived In Canberra A.C.T. In the suburb of Curtain. I Also Lived at dickson and Manuka. I also had many friends all over Canberra. We used to hang out In Civic and I was there when they Built the Belconnen Mall. I was also there when they built that bloody stupid looking tower on Black mountain. My sister lived in Page in 1985 and in 1987 I lived in the suburb of Cook and in 1990 I lived in evatt. I was a "member" at the Mt Stromlo observatory. It was there that we first spotted some rather interesting things already mentioned. WE were among the first to actually SEE it...but we were the first to actually realize what it meant. I also had a few connections with tracking station 43...THEY were in a flip I can tell you. And so the cover stories began...global warming and other crap was floated about to cover up the truth. SO to you dickheads...what else do I have to do to prove to you I am who I say I am and that I am in fact Australian? IF I go into any more detail I will be tagged and removed...I may have already given away too much.

Aussie Bloke
5/13/2004
12:20 am EDT Re: Aussie Bloke Vol.#1

Age is a state of mind...NOT body. And yes...only our bodies will die as such. As for my rage...I suppose it stems from the fact that I am totally disillusioned with this world....AND the fact that we could have done something about it. The real problem came when we realized that no matter what we did or what we invented...it would ultimately be pointless. There was and is NO WAY to stop or alter what is about to come to pass...NO WAY OUT. YES...I am angry...VERY angry with the PTB...LYING ____ the lot of them. My offspring will die...we will ALL die...and you wonder why I am cynical and angry. Whether I was 17 or 70 it would make NO difference. As for bad karma..well...seems we will all cop it whether we have sown good or bad. WE ALL ride this boat together...and we will all go down with the ship. NO life rafts in THIS movie I am afraid. I am very sorry if I have upset some people...I really am...but alas...the truth always hurts. The wool will soon lift of everybody's eyes. You will not need special equipment or southern location soon. And when it arrives it will happen overnight and catch everyone off guard. It is moving that fast. Then will come the rain...a rain of small objects first. THEN we will be shaken by two major impacts about two days apart, THEN...about a week later....along comes the wild card....and if IT hits us we are all well and truly stuffed. Along with this we will be dodging satellite debris and choking on toxic fumes. And if that weren't bad enough we will also be experiencing major volcanic eruptions and massive tidal waves all over the world. THEN...to top it all off...we will have to then deal with each other...those that are left. Constant fighting and killing over the tiniest scrap of food. Mankind will degenerate into a seething mob of animals. The so called survivalists will be among the first to die simply because they have stockpiled food. Bullets wont last forever people. It will come down to sticks and stones. All this time it will be dark and gloomy. NO light to grow food...no water safe to drink. It will not be pleasant. Mankind will come out of it eventually...but in greatly reduced numbers. Sorry if this is upsetting you...but its all true I swear. I will show you all in a couple of weeks just how true it all is. I have given many many clues so perhaps it will be you that tells ME what is coming. And if you do...then you will get the facts and figures to match which will prove beyond doubt who I am and what I am saying to you all. May God be with you all in these last weeks, Please forgive an old pissed off old man for the way I have carried on sometimes. I apologize to you all with all my heart. I will be away for a week or two...must see some family and grandchildren for a bit. So before I go I will give you an approximate date to expect the arrival of the cloud in full force.

  • 18th-20th June Impact 1

  • 24-25th June Impact 2

  • 26th-27th June "anomaly"

"anomaly" will have unknown effect but current estimates are not too encouraging. Diameter uncertain. mass uncertain. What IS known is this...it is composed mostly of a crystalline substance of unknown consistency. Some have speculated that it could be a chunk of diamond from the core of a gas giant as noted here http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3492919.stm this fits it as well http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlkop/diamond.html ...who knows. But it is weird and fast and coming this way. It is NOT a comet...NOR a planet...it is nothing like we have ever seen before. That is why we do not know what it will do if and when it hits us. Have a laugh now...I know you will..WE did at first too when we first detected it.  

Aussie Bloke
5/13/2004
12:29 am EDT Re: Aussie Bloke Vol.#1

Good question....simple answer. You cant see it because it is shrouded by dust. Sounds similar to the nibiru crap...but its not the same. Nibiru was only an alternative explanation for all the dust and shit we have seen lately. The average backyard scope will not see it. To see it...or them as such..there is more than one inbound...you need a few connections. Radar is one way of seeing it right now (the objects...not the cloud itself) and radio waves was one of the ways we detected the cloud to begin with. The only thing you will see through anything optical is BLACK. You need to penetrate the cloud as we have done and then you can see it.

As for you people who are "onto me"...have fun. I am NOT cia...I am NOT a debunker or a distracter...I am simply telling you all the truth...and as for making mistakes...well...I already explained that. But then again...I COULD be what you say I am...but then maybe not....but there is ALWAYS room for doubt isn't there? If I told EVERYONE exactly which type of equipment I have I would be tracked immediately and not only THAT...some very good friends of mine would be too. It was a friend of mine (I still think you were premature to post the specs...even if they WERE mixed up by the way) that posted the specs. I have already chewed him out....but looking back on it now...it turns out to be quite funny. Go the tidbits. Track me all you want...debunk me all you want...it wont change the facts.


Aussie Bloke
5/13/2004
2:42 am EDT Re: Aussie Bloke Vol.#1

More specifics.....I thought I had been fairly specific...I already TOLD you all what to expect. How many times do I have to repeat this. OHHHHH...YOU want to know EXACTLY where these objects ARE? Is THAT it? LOOK SOUTH ONCE AGAIN>>>FAR SOUTH. YOU can bloody find it if you think you are so damn smart. YOU seem to think that YOU can find something almost totally undetectable with you measly scope? The ONLY way to get a definite fix on these objects is with.....hmmm...should I tell you again? YOU will be in for some humble pie eating in a couple of weeks or so. It will be YOU who has to apologize NOT me. I hear so much about this booth bloke....good cover and he made some bucks from it...good for him. I however CANNOT go public with what I know simply because THE PUBLIC COULD NOT HANDLE IT. BUT...tell them about all THIS and they will check it out soon enough and the all hell breaks loose. All I seem to hear is "gimme specifics this and gimme specifics that".....even if i did you would with your backyard scopes, STILL miss it. IT IS SHROUDED>>>all of them are. You ask WHY cant we see the dust cloud? Simply because it is approaching from a sparse region...not much to occult where its coming from. And besides all that.....how many of you can see directly south...not many. WHY dont you ask the nice people at TS43 to point their dish south for you. If you ask nicely they may do it for you...NOT. WHY do you think they burnt stromlo down???? THE most important observatory in the south....and they let it BURN. The place was well set up to keep it from burning down. BUT....couldn't have all those amateurs pointing the scope in the wrong direction could we? There IS a dust storm approaching...we are and have been feeling the effects of it for a couple of years. ALL this weird weather and upset is simply due to the outermost tenuous fringes of it....the thickest part is yet to come. The oort cloud has been stirred and some debris is headed this way...LOTS of it. NOT to mention the debris of the storm itself. Why do you think they said the storm itself would be mostly harmless? Because in and of itself it IS mostly harmless...but it WILL block out the light somewhat and there will be a dazzling show as all the satellites come crashing down and we all start to choke on toxins and rads. BUT they didn't mention the disruption of the oort cloud DID they? And I cannot blame them. NOW we have comets coming left right and bloody centre...last year...one after another...and THIS year...same again. It was just a matter of time until some of them headed our way. The belt was stirred too....and look at Mars....WHY the sudden interest in Mars? YOU work it out. USE YOUR BRAIN. IF you cannot see the objects....then piece the puzzle together by the evidence. The objects will be seen by all soon enough. And as for "anomaly"...well....THAT one is the wild card. We are ALWAYS willing to listen when someone comes along with a truth that goes against what is "known". So...just because the general public did not believe the earth was round did NOT make them right. As is the case here...just because the general public has been treated like a bunch of mushrooms and kept in the dark and fed on bullshit...does NOT mean I am wrong. PROVE me wrong I say. YOU CANNOT because ALL the evidence adds up and there is NOT a thing you can do about it....except LOOK. FIND someone with the right equipment and SEE FOR YOURSELF. SIMPLE. But even if you don't which is highly likely...you will know soon enough.

Aussie Bloke
5/13/2004
3:20 am EDT Re: Aussie Bloke Vol.#1

Cant you read? I already explained why. Unless you have a good spot way down south you wont see it. PLUS you need the right eq. But soon that will change. 2 weeks before the first impacts the light will dim somewhat...THEN you wont miss it because it will be surrounding us. It is moving at a velocity that will upset the apple cart in a big way. Just look what the outermost fringes are doing to us.....now....imagine what will happen when the clouds density doubles and then doubles again. Scary stuff. On top of that you have the impacts to worry about. Who knows...with any luck the cloud will save the day by knocking the things of course before they hit. But it was the cloud that sent these things at us in the first place. And the really scary thing is....we don't know for sure how many will actually hit us except for the three we are tracking. There most likely is a lot more we just didn't see, and going by the nature of the cloud we probably wont see them until they land on our heads. How many times recently have we had NEO´s passing by...and NOT seeing some of them until they were either PAST us or in our laps? SO....don't you think that we will NOT see the ones that will hit us especially since they arrive in a cloud of cosmic dust? The cloud is approaching. It is still some distance away...but its speed will get it here soon enough....and you wont see it until almost the last minute because it is approaching due south....did you get that? DIRECTLY SOUTH. Our atmosphere will take a beating...it will indeed roll back like a scroll....and all hell will break loose. THIS is worse than nibiru in a lot of ways. The storm will last for about ten days at peak intensity and then die off. But the after effects will linger for many years. The sun is already turning almost white because of the massive influx of particles. Our orbits are becoming increasingly erratic. The moon just isn't where it should be NOR is it stable. Our rotation IS slowing due to friction caused by the dust. The outer planets are feeling it too...just have a good long look and remove your blinders.

AB
5/13/2004
3:33 am EDT Re: AUSSIE BLOKE

What do you want to chat about? I'm open...but don't expect me to be precise with you until I know you can be trusted with what I may or may not tell you...also...I will NEVER give my identity away...at least not yet. I will continue to speak layman for some time yet. So far most people think I don't know anything simply because I refuse to get technical. I still will. Once I begin. there will be no end...and this forum will cease. It has happened before and it will happen again. The mistake I made was being to precise. So...I have to do it like the movies...tell the truth....and make it look like a story...so those who KNOW the truth will take heed...and those who just don't want to know will just keep raving on about how wrong I am. I suspect you just want to prove me wrong and I may "let" you after I figure out whether you are serious about wanting to know...or are just trying to "catch me out". I am here and willing to talk. If you start with any crap I will simply ignore you. And by the way....I WILL be dropping the covers soon...so if you DO "Prove me wrong" it will not be for long and YOU will end up eating a whole lot of words. So....engage me with caution because I don't have time for fools.....and for that matter...the fools themselves don't have much time either.

AB
5/13/2004
3:50 am EDT Re: AUSSIE BLOKE

The truth is out huh? So....you tracked me down and now what? what will you do.....you still cannot prove me wrong can you? Go on...tell everyone who you think I am...you will be wrong. IP wont work either...I use many here and there. When one is tagged...I use another...so...now what will you do? Have me bumped off? Truth is out my ass. Go on...tell them all...and when I fully reveal myself you will look like a real fool. I do not fear you. Do your worst.

AB
5/13/2004
5:21 am EDT Re: AUSSIE BLOKE

I'm Frankie HUH?  You have NO idea who I am. I am NOT a regular to this forum until recently. Check the IP and confirm. I know no one here. I am who I say I am and who I say I am is no one here. YOU will never find out until the last moment who I am. My name is in several astronomy books and it IS mentioned along with some discoveries made in the 70´s THAT is all I will tell. Have fun working it out.

Aussie Bloke
5/14/2004
1:27 am EDT Re: Aussie Bloke Vol.#1

I have to go for a while...a week or two to visit family. In a couple of weeks or so I will return...and THEN...I WILL DUMP IT ALL. Prime last days entertainment. IF you are wondering why I have to go for a bit its because I want to do a few "last minute" things.

Aussie Bloke
5/14/2004
2:29 am EDT Re: Aussie Bloke Vol.#1

Just read back a bit in the previous posts. LOVE IT. LOOK!!...I didn't spell CURTIN correctly.....so WHAT. Explain then idiot how I would know so much about canberra? Do you want to know some MORE? OK...Ever been to Corrin Dam? Or been to Farmers market at Woden Plaza? What about Mt Ainslie Lookout? Or perhaps you have been to the Venus Shop at Fyshwic? You seem to be a wanker so you would be at home there. Or How about club 77...you would most likely go there AFTER working up an appetine across the road wouldn't you? What about the fires and stuff? I was there when they swept through visiting my friends. I was well aware they would let stromlo burn. They HAD to...OR...everything would be known to the public by now and we would already be in hell. stop your nit picking junk. It only shows to those of us who know better that you are just grasping at straws. To those who think I am being nasty by letting all this out...you may be correct to a point. BUT...I cannot at the same time let everyone die without at least telling you about it...UNLIKE our precious bloody useless government. I have been trying to tell for a long time and I was always told to "can it". So...with the advent of the internet I am able to get the word out to a degree. But the trouble is there is already half a dozen crackpots each spouting their OWN brand of doom. Now the truth comes along and look what happens...no one...or very few...takes heed. JUST another lot of doom that will NOT happen...so they think. The cloud approaches fast people...as do the impactors and other debris...and LETS not forget the "anomalie"....the wild card. THAT is the most dangerous object...its NOT a comet...its NOT a planet...its a...well...its an anomalie. It is bloody HUGE!! and it is bloody unpredictable. But it is headed this way that is certain. Buckle up. due south.

Aussie Bloke
5/14/2004
6:49 pm EDT

It is with tears on my eyes that I read all of the above. Yes...the truth is slowly dawning after all these years. 25 years of frustration and anger...so much pain and anguish. People please forgive an old man who lost the plot with some idiots here and there. I am....hmmm...should I tell you yet? No...a bit longer. The truth is already out there for you all to see. Who I am is not important as yet as you are adequately following the clues I have given you. In fact my real name has ALREADY been alluded too. And by the way...for the person who thinks I am younger than I am just because I have attitude....well...you TOO would have attitude if YOU had to carry around for decades the knowledge of your own and the worlds doom. I am not being up front with the WHOLE truth for reasons I have already stated. IF I was some backyard astronomer who knew about all this I would have no reason not to be precise. But because of who I am I just cannot tell you because the repercussions on my family and myself would be..well..not pleasant. I want to be in peace with my kin before we all go if you know what I mean. I have furnished you with dates and times and everything else you need to know for now. The rest will come later.

Aussie Bloke
5/15/2004
9:14 am EDT

"Tomorrow I am off to see my family and friends. It will be hard to let go but I am old and dying anyway so I was prepared in any case. I know the revelations I have given are shocking and I am sorry if you are upset...but someone had to tell sooner or later. You say I am lying just because I have not told you all exactly who I am. I have already done so many times...all you have to do is add it all up and like I keep saying USE YOUR BRAINS....but there is room for doubt. You also say I am lying simply because I do not get technical with you all. I can understand you would think I am not for real...which was intentional. I must remain in the shadow of doubt at least until I can spend some time with my family. THEY know the truth. I have never concealed it from them and we all want to say our farewells to each other in peace. When I return I will reveal all...in a big way...you can count on it. For then I will have no more to fear and no more reason to hide anything from you. The government will be furious and they most likely will come up with some way of discrediting me. Even though I worked for them at one time...they will not hesitate to shoot me down if they have to. Who knows...I may even get all my facts and figures together and go live on tv. JUST to piss them off....but not until there is nothing to loose by the riots that will result...OR...I will simply tell a few here and there as I am doing now and save everyone a lot of panic and fear. SOME people NEED to know in order to either prepare or escape. It is NOT the end of the world...it is a chance for a new beginning once the old and rotten order of this present day is done away with. The survivors will replenish the earth....no more wars for quite some time. To those who wish to survive....teach the children of the new era to live in peace and love. LEARN just for once from our past. You see....it seems the ONLY thing that mankind has learnt from history is that we DO NOT learn from history. It is now time to break that chain...or in a thousand years we will probably wipe ourselves out anyway...and this time it will be TOTAL. Farewell...and make your peace with all you know while you still have time".

Revelation 6:

"I watched as he broke the sixth seal, and there was a vast earthquake; and the sun became dark like black cloth, and the moon was blood red. Then the stars of heaven appeared to be falling to earth like green fruit from fig trees buffeted by mighty winds. And the starry heavens disappeared as though rolled up like a scroll and taken away, and every mountain and island shook and shifted."

Below are comments from someone who was on the message board who lives in Australia who has noticed a lot of activity in an observatory in Australia called "Wormwood" does that name ring a bell?" Revelation 8:10-11 "The third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star, blazing like a torch, fell from the sky on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water, the name of the star is Wormwood"

I spend a lot of time in Western Australia and my friend who lives at Exmouth called me just a minute ago. He said that the locals in the town are all curious about the increase in people, traffic, aircraft etc. traveling to and from the Learmonth (Project Wormwood) Observatory, which is approx. 30 miles down the road. He estimates the people and goods and traffic has tripled over the last 10 days. Much of this has been via the Exmouth airport. There have been some military brass amongst them. It is a similar situation in the town of Carnarvon. Of course, there is no official acknowledgment of anything out of the ordinary. I have asked him to discretely sniff around more and I will keep this group informed. Best regards to all Keith in Australia"
http://www.ips.gov.au/IPSHosted/neo/index.html

Another poster showing proof that this could happen base on an article online:

My read on Aussie Bloke is that he was trying to direct us to the source of the problem, as well as telling us the details of what is going to happen in the near future. I think I have uncovered some evidence pointing to the source… http://www.enterprisemission.com/_articles/05-14-2004/Interplanetary_1.htm

http://csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr162/lect/novae/novae.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3492919.stm

Below are many links that others have left on the thread for people to look at.

http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/summary/swan/animation-comets.gif

www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/2566165

http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/summary/swan/latest
_swan_ARecl_sm.gif

http://nssdcftp.gsfc.nasa.gov/spacecraft_data/de/de2/electric_
fields_vefi/ac_500ms_ascii/1982/04/1982104T2117_2142_de2_
vefi_ac_500ms.asc

http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime/realtime-eit_284.html 

http://www.angelfire.com/fl3/gammadim/wpaasteroidprophecies.html

http://home.pe.net/~mjagee/procon1123.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3359555.stm

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story
_page/0,5744,9304633%255E29098,00.html


http://www.usbunkers.com/main.htm

Right now, I am asking myself, why is it so cloudy where I live?  For the past several weeks, even sunny days seem like there is "dust" between the earth and the sun.  I am going to be watching for the incredible meteor storm like the poster mentioned.  This should be a sure sign that it is coming. I will probably come back with a final article when Aussie Bloke reveals what he say's he will reveal so I can post it for the Bush Country readers (if you will post it)

I will close this article the same way I did with the one I sent you a few weeks ago. Your website is run by Christians, so please, direct your readers to this URL if they want peace in all this.  I have total peace because I know I am going to be with God.  God will not let His own go through His wrath Rom 5:9  "Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him"

He saved Moses and his family and God will save those that are His before this event. Who knows, maybe when everything goes dark?  Christ did say in 2nd Peter 3:10 "But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up". 

I know that you are going to get lots of heat if you post this article, but I am hoping that it will lead those who are lost, to be found by accepting Christ Plan of Salvation!  Thanks again

Name Withheld



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1 posted on 06/02/2004 8:23:41 AM PDT by Happy2BMe
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To: Admin Moderator
Tin Foil Hat Alert

Please move this to humor.

So9

2 posted on 06/02/2004 8:27:27 AM PDT by Servant of the 9 (Screwing the Inscrutable or is it Scruting the Inscrewable?)
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To: Happy2BMe

This is the kind of stuff that makes BushCountry.org look kooky.


3 posted on 06/02/2004 8:28:11 AM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from an animal shelter! It will save one life, and may save two.)
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To: Rockitz

ping


4 posted on 06/02/2004 8:30:46 AM PDT by Rytwyng (we're here, we're Huguenots, get used to us)
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To: Happy2BMe

Disjointed sentence fragments and random capitalization, first sign of a schizo.


5 posted on 06/02/2004 8:31:53 AM PDT by sumocide
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To: sinkspur
I guess we'll know about this time next month.

In the meantime, take some time to smell the roses . .

6 posted on 06/02/2004 8:32:07 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (U.S.A. - - United We Stand - - Divided We Fall - - Support Our Troops - - Vote BUSH)
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To: sumocide

I'm all ready buy off on a one sided discussion by someone named "Aussie Bloke"! Aren't you?


7 posted on 06/02/2004 8:41:59 AM PDT by shadowman99
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To: Rytwyng
May 13, 2004, 7:13AM

Sunshine study finds world's darkened since '50s

By KENNETH CHANG
New York Times

In the second half of the 20th century, the world became a darker place.

Defying expectation and explanation, hundreds of instruments around the world recorded a drop in sunshine reaching the surface of Earth, as much as 10 percent from the late 1950s to the early '90s, or 2 to 3 percent per decade. In some areas like Asia, the United States and Europe, the drop was even steeper. Hong Kong saw a 37 percent decrease in its sunlight.

No one is predicting that it may soon be night all day. Still, the dimming trend -- noticed by a handful of scientists two decades ago, but dismissed at the time as unbelievable -- is now attracting wide attention. Research on global dimming and its implications will be presented next week in Montreal at a joint meeting of U.S. and Canadian geological societies.

James E. Hansen, director of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies, said scientists had long known that pollution particles reflected some sunlight, but now they are realizing the magnitude of the effect. "It's occurred over a long time period, so it's not something that perhaps jumps out at you," he said. "But it's a large effect."

"In general, we don't really understand this thing that's going on," said Shabtai Cohen, a scientist in Israel's agriculture ministry who has studied global dimming for a decade.

Since the 1950s, hundreds of radiometers, the instrument to measure sunshine, have been installed worldwide.

At around the same time, Gerald Stanhill of the Israeli Agriculture Ministry noticed similar darkening trends in Israel. "I really didn't believe it," he said. "I thought there was some error in the apparatus."

Stanhill, retired and living in New York City, also found global dimming. In the 1990s, he wrote a series of papers describing the phenomenon.

In 2001, Stanhill and Cohen estimated the worldwide dimming averaged 2.7 percent per decade.

8 posted on 06/02/2004 8:42:19 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (U.S.A. - - United We Stand - - Divided We Fall - - Support Our Troops - - Vote BUSH)
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To: Happy2BMe

Does this mean that I should cancel my July vaca to Florida?


9 posted on 06/02/2004 8:45:24 AM PDT by ContemptofCourt
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To: shadowman99

If it wasn't for that weird Ham transmission picked up a few months ago, I'd write this guy off as a complete kook (who knows, maybe he is). After all, despite the total hopelessness of the situation according to him, he won't lay out what he thinks/knows is going to happen. On the other hand, his date does correspond to the date (and apparent subject material) of the now-famous "snowball/Burrow" transmission.


10 posted on 06/02/2004 8:46:14 AM PDT by Little Pig
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To: ContemptofCourt; All
SOURCE

Bush Country promised our readers several weeks ago we would post the last email from an individual who has stumbled across "possible" disturbing events. Like we mentioned on the previous email from him in May, we are cautioning readers who are afraid of end time events in reading this post. Also, we do not consider this information to be factual but are posting it for two reasons:

At any rate, below is the 3rd email we received from the "Unknown" reader who continues to remain anonymous.  Most of this information comes directly from the thread he has been following, but there is also information about other coincidental events happening IE: The unprecedented actions that the worlds superpowers navy's will be doing in June.  Here is the email:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Several weeks ago, I sent you the article entitled "Is The End Of The World As We Know It Right Around The Corner?" and informed you that I would let you know when this guy named Aussie Bloke makes his last post.  Well, it finally happened. 

After 2 Weeks of visiting his family/saying goodbye, Aussie Bloke came back and true to his word, posted on the 29th of May who he is.  His comments are noted below:

Aussie Bloke
5/29/2004
5:19 am EDT Re: Aussie Bloke Vol.#3

Ok...here it is. I AM DR GARTREL. Happy now? As for what I know....I've already told you. You want bloody details....you have them already. You want to know what will happen?...read the above posts. You don't believe me?...YOUR problem! YOU have brains...USE THEM....as I've encouraged you all to do all along!!! READ THE BLOODY SIGNS>>>>>>>but no...some remain flaming BLIND!!!! because they WANT TO. Wont change a thing. I am screwed now...cats out of the bag now...I am who I am....and who gives a ____. IM BLOODY ANGRY!!!!! DO you people have ANY BLOODY IDEA at ALL what it has been like for myself and others who have known about this for BLOODY TWO DECADES!!!!!!!! But no...WELL BUGGER IT ALL!!!!!! For those who have patiently waited for me I am truly sorry for not doing the expected. I told you all weeks ago exactly where and when...you have the details already. The reason? THINK about it!!! IF I had told you all back then that the information WAS in fact THE information you all wanted....the site would have shut down. I had to do it this way...the information has been out for over two weeks now...and the ptb can now do bugger all about it. I have been around them long enough to know how they think and what they would do...now they can do nothing. The times locations and eta of the cloud and objects has already been posted. NOW all you have to do is hope to hell that someone out there copied it. NOW...GET THE WORD OUT!!!! THIS IS LEGIT. FAREWELL TO ALL. SEE YOU IN ETERNITY.


Someone did some research on Aussie Bloke and found out that he is indeed who he say's he is, which makes the entire thread that I had sent you several weeks ago even more disturbing.  Here is the info that has been pulled about him:

http://www.imo.net/bib/metshw0.html
Bibliographic Meteor Database - Meteor Showers
GARTRELL G., ELFORD W.G. (1975):
SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE METEOR STREAM DETERMINATION
Austral. J. Phys. 28, 591-620

http://www.darksky.org/infoshts/is044.html
Olsson-Steel, D.I. & Elford, W.G., The Use of Radars in the Detection of In falling Space Debris International Dark-Sky Association -- Information Sheet 44 Astronomical Society of the Pacific Conference Series, Vol. 17 08/98

http://www.terrapub.co.jp/journals/EPS/abstract/5107_08/51070691.html
Meteor observations with an MF radar
Masaki Tsutsumi1, David Holdsworth2, Takuji Nakamura3, and Iain Reid4
1National Institute of Polar Research, Tokyo, Japan
2Atmospheric Radar Systems, Adelaide, Australia
3Radio Atmospheric Science Center, Kyoto University, Uji, Kyoto, Japan
4University of Adelaide, Adelaide, Australia
(Received August 19, 1998; Revised June 6, 1999; Accepted June 10, 1999)
Earth Planets Space, Vol. 51 (Nos. 7, 8), pp. 691-689, 1999 in the bibliography of the pdf: Steel, D. I. and W. G. Elford, The height distribution of radio meteors: comparison of observations at different frequencies on the basis of standard echo theory, J. Atmos. Terr. Phys., 53, 409–417, 1991.

I am going to leave your readers (if you decide to post this) with several links, and information that I have been able to pull about this "end of the world" scenario.  It is not just Aussie Bloke who is talking about these inbound comets, there are also some very disturbing signs happening which leads one to believe that either there are some incredible coincidences going on, or Aussie Bloke is right, and we will have "hell on earth" in June. 

By the way, here are the days and the events which are supposed to happen on them:

Now for the coincidences.  The first is stock market site article http://www.urbansurvival.com/week.htm that talks about something I had posted on my last email to you about an intercepted transmission from Ham operators about something that is supposed to hit earth in June.  It was called: Is "Snowball" A Coincidence?

Here is an interesting article I pulled just a few days ago.  These fireballs have increased significantly over the last several weeks and are happening EVERYWHERE.

Fireball Near Grover´s Mill, N.J.

Startled New Jersey residents tied-up the phone lines late this evening calling authorities to report a large orange fireball that passed over the town and apparently hit the ground several miles west of Grover´s MIll. No reports of fires or injuries from the area have been made, but locals expressed concern that the unknown phenomena had made a rumbling noise when it passed over that was strong enough to rattle windows and frighten pets.

"I thought a jet was coming down right in the street," said Betty Ocker, a housewife in Grover´s Mill, "it was loud, and I mean really loud."

Police have asked residents to clear up the telephone lines and use them only for emergency purposes until things get worked out, said a town spokesperson. Apparently the local districts received so many calls after the meteor passed overhead that the lines jammed and they have been unable to handle normal calls for police assistance.

Local fire teams were dispatched to the woods west of town to make sure that no fires were started by the space rock, but none of them have reported finding anything as yet.


Here was a comment from someone on the same "Aussie Bloke" thread making comments about what was being discussed (too many coincidences going on to not believe that something is coming from the heavens and will reach us soon)

I am an historian from the border region of Austria with some background in the diplomatic corps, 65 years old and now semi-retired.

I have heard about the ´Aussie Bloke´ postings from a young relative of my family and what I have read has struck a chord in me. In short, there are things happening at a diplomatic level in Europe that point to a major catastrophe within weeks, if not days.

RE: Emergency planning, naval and military mobilization

Yes, this is indeed something I wanted to highlight, although I am aware that some aspects of the naval mobilization are now in the public news domain.

What you are seeing here is only the tip of the iceberg in terms of a longer and finely coordinated military posture that is being coordinated in tandem with confidential inter-governmental briefings taking place under the auspices of Swiss officials in Geneva.

Signs abound. There is a certain sub-strata of the civil service in London that, together with senior emergency planning officers, has been evacuated from its headquarters in the British capital. This took place very recently.

Many US military bases outside of home territory that were falling into disuse have been frantically refurbished and restocked over the last 18 months, and one must ask oneself why this is happening. The standard reason given for these unprecedented upgrades is ´preparedness´ in the
so-called war on terrorism.

The United States military infrastructure is actually quite widely dispersed; a catastrophe affecting the land mass of North America alone would therefore not imperil the operational integrity of the US High Command. The same principle applies to American financial and economic instruments deployed ´in expatriate´: instruments largely inured against an anticipated collapse of the domestic banking and credit markets.

I found this gentleman's writings on projected meteor impacts rather interesting, as his predicted dates of arrival dovetail rather neatly with the current and future logistics pertaining to premium shipping lines, the navies of several large nations, military contingents and the movements of elite personnel.

The nation most advanced in this field of planning is Switzerland, where many in senior positions, especially in the security and medical professions, have been put on Stufe 2 since the beginning of April 2004. Even during the Cold War, most memorably the Cuban Crisis, the levels raised were hardly ever above Stufe 3.

I believe the levels in both Austria and Germany are lower. In the case of the latter, this is on no account due to ignorance or poor planning resources, but rather because of their concerns with secrecy and forcing a run on resources. People in Germany - and I live on the border, so I know - are becoming aware that something strange is transpiring within the emergency planning regime, if only because there has been extensive re-testing of the outdated airborne attack warning sirens.

I still keep in touch with many friends and colleagues who work for the diplomatic corps in Germany, Austria, Switzerland and the United Kingdom, many of whom are currently spending an inordinate amount of their residual time locked in emergency preparedness that goes way beyond any threat that can be reasonably ascribed to terrorism.


Here is one that talks about some very strange things that the federal reserve is doing which leads one to think they know something is about to happen. I don't know what the heck they are talking about, but it sounds like something quite disturbing is coming: http://www.safehaven.com/article-1597.htm

"Let me just say from the outset that the Federal Reserve has confirmed our Stock Market Crash forecast by raising the Money Supply (M-3) by crisis proportions, up another 46.8 billion this past week. What awful calamity do they see? Something is up. This is unprecedented, unheard-of pre-catastrophe M-3 expansion. M-3 is up an amount that we´ve never seen before without a crisis - $155 billion over the past 4 weeks, a $2.0 trillion annualized pace, a 22.2 percent annualized rate of growth!!! There must be a crisis of historic proportions coming, and the Federal Reserve Bank of the United States is making sure that there is enough liquidity in place to protect our nation´s fragile financial system. The amazing thing is, the Fed´s actions mean they know what is about to happen. They are aware of a terrible, horrific imminent event. What could it be?

One can draw no other conclusion except that the Fed is acting irresponsibly in its managing the money supply, in fulfilling its duty to "maintain a stable currency." I reject the notion that the Fed is acting irresponsibly. No, something is up, bigger than we have ever seen in the history of the United States. Let me ramble. Perhaps they simply see the ominous technical landscape we have been warning about in recent issues, and are attempting to pull out all the stops to avert the predicted crash. The recent rally in just about everything is similar to 2003´s market behavior when the Fed pumped massive amounts of liquidity into the system during the first half of the year. This time seems different. The amount of liquidity is too large. The Fed is deflating the value of the monetary base by a fifth! Why are they willing to do this? Wisdom says something bad is up - big time."

Yet another one which talks about the UK preparing for evacuations: http://www.globalcontinuity.com/article/articleview/10265/1/30/

Lastly, did you know that just about every major countries navy's will be at sea in June?  Apparently, deep water is much more safe than docking in shallow water if strong waves are blown inland.  Here are some comments from one of the forums along with some links for proof of what is going on.

Just why is it that nearly our entire naval fleet, have unprecedented orders to leave for the Oceans? AND, they aren't alone. At least parts of Iran, Britain, Australia, China, France, India, Indonesia, Japan, South Korea, Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Vietnam are going too. Makes me want to find out where the British Navy is holing up these days. And what of the Russians? hmmm.... Does anyone ever stay home and protect their own borders anymore? Isn't that what they are supposed to be doing? Something is very, very fishy here!"

Let's go through a list of which countries are putting navies to sea for the month of June. Take the U.S. naval group's departure from San Diego. What's the official story of the 6,000+ sailors leaving Monday?

(Norfolk) a local television station in Norfolk reports that a total of seven carrier strike groups are putting to sea in June - which if I'm not mistaken is an unprecedented move: "While the Navy won't say where the seven carrier groups are going, the carriers not already deployed are expected to be gone for only one to two months." Story (RealPlayer needed) at http://www.wavy.com/Global/story.asp?S=1902088&nav=23iiNU2h  (England) The British are also putting an unusual number of ships to sea during June. http://www.navynews.co.uk/articles/2004/0405/0004052601.asp  Meantime, Channel 13 in Hampton Roads, VA reports in part that:

"Called "Exercise Blinding Storm" by the United States and "Exercise Rapid Alliance" by the U.K., the training will involve about 30,000 troops from seven nations in exercises off and on the coast of North Carolina. Dutch marines and French soldiers will take part, as well as a Peruvian submarine and contingents from Germany and Canada. The flotilla is expected to set sail Tuesday, with the two-week amphibious exercise scheduled to begin June 10. The British landing platform dock ship Albion has already arrived. It carried four Challenger II battle tanks — the British equivalent of the U.S. M1-A1 Abrams tank. The tanks will be sent ashore aboard the ship's new landing craft during the exercise. The biggest British ship — the aircraft carrier Invincible — also has docked with a crew of 1,050. "
http://www.wvec.com/sharedcontent/APStories/stories/D82SAKN80.html

Also look at this huge list of other recent deployments...

Carrier Group Leaves On Deployment
Ships Are Not Scheduled To Support Operations In Iraq
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/3339032/detail.html

HUGE NAVAL STRIKE GROUP IS DEPLOYED! Western Pacific
(1) Aircraft carrier Stennis (CSG)
(2) Guided-missile cruiser USS Lake Champlain (CG 57)
(3) Burke-class destroyer USS Howard (DDG 83)
(4) Guided-missile frigate USS Ford (FFG 54)
(5) Fast-attack submarine USS Salt Lake City (SSN 716)
(6) Replenishment ship USNS Rainier (T-AOE 7) Also
(7) amphibious assault ship Belleau Wood
(8) amphibious transport dock ship Denver
(9) amphibious transport dock ships Comstock
(10-11) Burke-class guided missile destroyers Preble and Hopper -- will depart next month.
(12) USS Tucson Departs on Western Pacific Deployment
(13) Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer USS Russell

Also: USS McCampbell (DDG 85) departed May 5 for its first
deployment. The ship and its crew are headed to Southeast Asia in support of a Cooperation Afloat Readiness and Training (CARAT) cruise. McCampbell will be conducting joint naval exercises with the countries of Singapore, Thailand, Brunei, Malaysia and the Philippines.

Also: Twenty Royal Navy ships, led by HMS Invincible, are heading
off to take part in the exercise called Rapid Alliance, which is taking place off the eastern seaboard of the United States.

Article: Marines Take off for Naval Exercise with U.S.

http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=2918574

Mediterranean Sea Surface Strike Group deployment:
(14) Guided-missile destroyer USS Ramage (DDG 61)
(15) Guided-missile destroyer USS Ross (DDG 71),
(16) Guided-missile frigate USS Elrod (FFG 55)

USS John C. Stennis Strike Group Deploys for Pacific Operations:
Navy-Marine strike group leaves on 6-month deployment:
More than 5,000 sailors and Marines with the Belleau Wood
Expeditionary Strike Group will leave San Diego Thursday for
a six-month deployment in support of the war on terrorism
The amphibious assault ship Belleau Wood and the amphibious
transport dock ships Denver and Comstock will depart from 32nd
Street Naval Station beginning at 8:30 a.m. Thursday. "It is the
first time an expeditionary strike group will be commanded by a Marine general, according to the Navy.
http://www.nctimes.com/articles/

2004/05/27/military/20_54_265_26_04.txt

"The Army begins a major staging operation today at the port to ship equipment to southwest Asia." Article: Army to ship vehicles overseas via Olympia:
http://www.theolympian.com/home/news/20040520/topstories/54346.shtml

Official explanation: Strike Group Deploys Early To Help Quell
Insurgency "The plan was developed to train naval forces for quick response to crises and in support of national interests."
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/militaryconnection/3351632/detail.html

Ford heads to sea Frigate's crew departs for 4 months
http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/04/05/27/loc_ford001.cfm

USS Tucson Departs on Western Pacific Deployment
http://www.news.navy.mil/search/display.asp?story_id=13418

Surface Strike Group Ships Deploy From Norfolk
http://www.news.navy.mil/search/display.asp?story_id=13096

"coastal patrol ships Typhoon and Sirocco prepared to leave port at the Little Creek Naval Amphibious Base Friday to relieve two sister ships" http://home.hamptonroads.com/stories/story.cfm?story=69752&ran=237692

ROTA, Spain (NNS) -- USNS Patuxent (T-AO 201) accompanied patrol
boats USS Typhoon (PC 5) and USS Sirocco (PC 6) on their journey across the Atlantic Ocean to Naval Station Rota, Spain, and arrived in port with the two PCs May 12.
http://www.news.navy.mil/search/display.asp?story_id=13328

So, I have to ask, are all these things happening a coincidence, or did Aussie Bloke provide us truthful information that the world as we know it will not exist after June?  I personally think its true, there are just too many coincidences.  Something is going on, and inbound comets seem to be the likely thing causing this. 

I will close by asking you to please post this email on your site. There are a lot of unsaved people that read your website and this is a great opportunity to witness the gospel to them.  Even though I believe things are coming, I have total and absolute peace because I know I will be with Christ after I leave this world.  Hopefully, your readers have that piece as well.  If not, they can go to this link to see all that is needed for total peace.

11 posted on 06/02/2004 8:48:38 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (U.S.A. - - United We Stand - - Divided We Fall - - Support Our Troops - - Vote BUSH)
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To: Little Pig
IT COMING STRAIGHT FOR US!!! No wait, it's moving away... Oh, nevermind.


12 posted on 06/02/2004 8:50:14 AM PDT by shadowman99
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To: Little Pig; shadowman99

Ping on #11


13 posted on 06/02/2004 8:50:15 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (U.S.A. - - United We Stand - - Divided We Fall - - Support Our Troops - - Vote BUSH)
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To: Servant of the 9

Hot Fudge Sunday falls on Tuesday this week.


14 posted on 06/02/2004 8:53:17 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: Happy2BMe
Lemme tell you a little story, and some personal history. I run a web site called the Third Millennium Survival Web. I've let it become run down and left alone for a couple of years now. I'm a "believer" in "survival", but that doesn't mean that every person that comes along screaming about the end of the world as we know it (aka: TEOTWAWKI) is right, or even reasonable.

In years past I've belonged to the "Survival Ring" (a loosely knit group of web sites, some touting the end of the world, and others selling stuff for Y2K, etc). And I've been in many email lists.

In the olden days (roughly 5 years prior to "y2K" becoming a household word) we talked about "blizzards, tornadoes and other natural disasters" in those lists. Over the past few years, the lists for the most part (Not to MENTION most of the web sites) have been inundated and infiltrated by some of the kookiest people in the world. The majority of them appear to be "Left leaning, greenies" (my words and my own quote from an article I did a few years back) who pretend to be "right wingers". There are a vast amount of conspiracy theories running amok throughout the so-called "survival community". Over the Waco/OKC days those groups were pointed out as being "Right wing radical kooks, survivalists and militia people who were leaning towards Naziism" by the media. (That's personally why I think the groups were infiltrated by left wingers, by the way, to make the groups look worse than they were). Eventually, I left the groups and have pretty much let my web site die. I don't do much with it.

HOWEVER, I still keep up with the material through other means. Over the past three weeks, at least three people have contacted me regarding an "incoming asteroid" that "no one knows about". Being also an amateur astronomer, for thirty years now, I have attempted to verify this "astral intruder". So far, I have NOT been able to get coordinates, or find anything. I've been in contact with some large observatories, none of which can confirm anything either. I JUST visited Lowell Observatory a few weeks back.

The TRUTH is, I can't find any evidence at all for any thing like this. I will say that there is another "faction" out there who has been yelling about the "Planet X" thing, something they call "Nibiru", which is supposedly a large planet (everything from earth-sized to jupiter-sized) that orbits the sun on an extremely eccentric orbit) every "3600 years".

This "faction" has grown STRANGELY quiet over the past few months. I believe that this "comet" or "asteroid" everyone is "worried about" is simply another incarnation of the "Planet-X theory". The reason I believe this, is if there were a Jupiter sized planet out there, on an in-bound course and it's due by 2012 or so as so many have been saying, then we'd be spotting it by now on it's accellerated orbit (it would be increasing in speed as it plunges toward the sun on this orbit and would already have become visible, and since it hasn't, some folks are having to re-think their stories).

While I can not and will not discount by any stretch of the imagination the possibility (or PROBABILITY!) that the Earth WILL be struck int he future by a very large body (any scientist worth his salt will tell you it has happened many times in the past and will again, happen in the future), I can not definately verify any of the "astroid" theory. I don't think anyone can.

IF there is something incoming in the next couple of months and we (we being science) aren't SURE it is going to hit, but are pretty sure, and they JUST discovered it in the last few months, I'd say it is a SAFE bet that they aren't going to tell the public. (It'd cause panic, people to quit working, and perhaps even some countries or even the terrorists to get about their business even more quickly!) On the other hand if they found something and it is years from hitting, you're going to hear about it on the news. Period.

So far, every NEA or PHA (thats near earth asteroid or potentially hazardous asteroid) has been reported publically. There are even lists of them that are easily obtainable from the scientific sources that discover them. Orbits have been plotted and given the right sort of software ANYONE is capable of looking at the hazards (or non-hazards) posed by these objects.

If I recall correctly (and I'm probably wrong where it comes to numbers, since I always have to look them up over and over anyway) there are roughly 1500 such objects that have been mapped, plotted and we know their course within a few years, and none of them are going to "hit". Come close sometimes, yes. But close could be "just outside the orbit of the moon" too.

As another posted stated though, I guess we can just wait and see for a couple more months.

Regards, all. Rick Donaldson
15 posted on 06/02/2004 8:54:11 AM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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To: Happy2BMe

Six to Eight weeks, huh?

I'd better hurry up get my dog through his
obedience lessons that I paid up front for!


If this thing is for real, it could mean serious
problems for Bush's re-election!

The only safe place is Australia? Gee, silly me...I would
have figured the safest place was whatever side of the earth was facing the SUN at the time of impact and not the side of impact. But what do I know? I'm not a scientist.

That evil government of ours! Keeping this secret from us!
Just for that, I won't vote for ANYBODY in November! That'll fix their wagons!

Anybody want to buy a titanium umbrella? I can let them go to the first 99 callers for the low, low price of $324,989.00 a piece. And if you buy more than one, you'll get the second one for only 99 cents!


Thanks for the informative post. Now I know that I wont' have to bother mowing my lawn anymore, no matter HOW much the neighbors complain!

See you all in the stars, folks! Ta! ta!


16 posted on 06/02/2004 8:59:09 AM PDT by JustPlainJoe
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To: Rick.Donaldson
By the way, I forgot to mention something. Almost every single time issues like this appear in the various email lists (in particular the survival lists, where this story is appearing once again) the messenger ALWAYS states how he can't mention certain pieces of information "or it will be shut down, discovered, attacked, etc". Almost every time these guys have had their "lives threatened" or they have had events occur that has tried to shut them up. They always use aliases, won't come out and give real names (hell, that way they don't have to stand by anything and can eventually vanish from sight returning with a new alias to start, yet another, fear campaign.

I can't and won't say that "Aussie" whatshisname is lying, but the chances are very good I know who this person is (remember, I've been dealing with this survival community for many, many years and have talked to a lot of them in email, via chats, forums and even occasionally in person. Some of these people are sincere, but certainly do not have all their lug nuts tightened correctly. Basically, ANY TIME someone comes out of the wood work making these sorts of claims and places all these caveats on the statements (aliases, "can't tell you this but..." comments and the like, they are MOST LIKELY MISINFORMED OR LYING!) - rd
17 posted on 06/02/2004 9:02:27 AM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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To: JustPlainJoe
Good one. I'm not a scientist either, and if the world ends this afternoon at 3:33 p.m. sharp, I know where I'll be at 3:34.

Stay safe.

18 posted on 06/02/2004 9:04:47 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (U.S.A. - - United We Stand - - Divided We Fall - - Support Our Troops - - Vote BUSH)
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To: Happy2BMe

Re this post:

If I may give a synopsis of all these posts, cutting through the bull:

blah...blah...blah....(whatever this is) will start to happen in 6 days! And will be done by the end of the month. ...blah ...blah ... blah...

Great! So, does this mean that if our biggest concern at the end of the month is still terrorism, the presidential elections, and cicadas that we can make fun of Dr. Gartrell for being yet another nutcase, in a long line of nutcases?

I'm only half joking when I ask this. I've heard so many predictions, and been taken to task refuting some, that after all the time and worry I put into them, after they DON'T come true, the perpetrators of the original "theory" are nowhere to be found. It's almost like they scurry under the nearest rock, like cockroaches exposed to light.

So, I'd like to be able to take my pound of flesh out on Dr. Gartrell, WHEN he's shown wrong at the end of this month. Actually, I have to give him and BushCountry a bit of credit: This is the first time that someone like this makes it easy to just get to the bottom line, which is simply tell us the DATES this is supposed to happen! I'm glad they've done this. Usually you have to wade through rambling posts and odd-ball hyperlinks to determine the date of "destruction" with these kind of theories. So I have to give credit for that.

Again though, I'd really like to see, just for ONCE, these kind of paranoid people come out and say, "Wow, I guess I was wrong. Looks like the world isn't going to end after all. So, who's up for some pizza?"

Or something like that.


19 posted on 06/02/2004 9:06:09 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Happy2BMe

Helluh--ohh!!! If any of you are REALLY Christians who REALLY believe the Bible is truly the inspired Word of God, maybe you should try READING it before you swallow this story hook, line and sinker.

The Bible clearly spells out certain things that MUST happen before the so-called "End of the World" happens.

Let's see, ummmm....How about THE RETURN OF CHRIST?
How about, ummmm.....the RISE of the ANTI-Christ?

I know that I have these out of chronological order, but you get my drift.

This is where the rubber meets the road, Christians...
WHO are you gonna believe? Science, the Government, or the Word?


20 posted on 06/02/2004 9:08:32 AM PDT by JustPlainJoe
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To: Rick.Donaldson
Keep us informed if you hear anything. I need to know with enough advance to dump some stocks and invest in generators and water purification system stocks.

:~)

21 posted on 06/02/2004 9:10:34 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (U.S.A. - - United We Stand - - Divided We Fall - - Support Our Troops - - Vote BUSH)
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To: Happy2BMe

If 'global dimming' is anything remotely resembling reality, the least likely explanation that I can think of is a debris cloud 'hanging around' between the Earth and the Sun. Any amateur astronomer with a solar filter and an occulting disk would be able to see obvious evidence of it. Except I guess for the fact that it is *so secret*. Hey, I have a telescope. Maybe I can get in on the government hush-money gravy train! LOL!

The Earth has been struck by large, fast-moving objects many times in the past. There is plenty of evidence to suggest it.

Where this completely falls apart for me is that *this guy* has the *inside track* on *secret government information* and that all sorts of scientific organizations are being paid to cover it up. Additionally, *parties unknown* are conspiring to silence him.

He says that he used to 'work for the government'. The inference that we're supposed to draw is that he worked for them in a capacity where he'd have been a 'trusted member of the conspiracy of silence', so some sort of research scientist or national security advisor or intelligence type, right? Well, I used to 'work for the government', too. I was a US Marine. I guess I'm in the club of knowing where all of the UFOs are reverse engineered then, huh. Guess I must've been threatened or paid off. Well, I have no income at the moment, to I'll take the dough, hold the threats, thanks. Sheesh.

I watch conspiracy theorists like this, and have for many years. They're full of Kerry, on the whole. I do think that interesting and secret things do happen from time to time. When they do, they're usually more along the lines of the underwater cable-tapping in the Sea of Okhotsk, the lovingly crafted pipeline explosion in Siberia that was the result of the KGB having stolen software that was creatively re-engineered, or some of the incredible stunts pulled by SOG in various parts of SE Asia in the 60s and early 70s.

Yeah, we'll probably eventually get smacked with a flying mountain from deep space that's doing 30 kilometers/sec. Betcha a nickel that it ain't on any of the dates that this guy has guessed.


22 posted on 06/02/2004 9:10:50 AM PDT by Riley (Need an experienced computer tech in the DC Metro area? I'm looking. Freepmail for details.)
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To: Rick.Donaldson

Yeah, right!

You're probably one of the people trying to hide the truth!!!

(Yes, I am kidding.)


23 posted on 06/02/2004 9:13:09 AM PDT by nuffsenuff
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To: Riley
Betcha a nickel that it ain't on any of the dates that this guy has guessed.

But how are you gonna pay up if this guy is right?

WE'LL ALL BE DEAD!!!!

LOL!

24 posted on 06/02/2004 9:16:40 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act")
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To: JustPlainJoe
I'm sure you've heard these:

Jer 32:21 And hast brought forth thy people Israel out of the land of Egypt with signs, and with wonders, and with a strong hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with great terror;

Luk 21:11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.

Hint: Pharoah is a believer in great signs.

25 posted on 06/02/2004 9:17:29 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (U.S.A. - - United We Stand - - Divided We Fall - - Support Our Troops - - Vote BUSH)
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To: Riley

Hey! that reminds me...I used to work for the government as well! Indeed I know all about their sneaky ways.

-The extra mail they made me carry when I wasn't looking...
-All the stuff they DIDN'T tell me! Like who REALLY shot Kennedy!
-The way they'd mess with the clocks to short us on our breaks!
-The asteroids that are about to SLAM into the earth, destroying all life as we know it.

The sneaks! This is an outrage! I DEMAND reparations when this calamity is over!


26 posted on 06/02/2004 9:18:46 AM PDT by JustPlainJoe
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To: FourtySeven
Great! So, does this mean that if our biggest concern at the end of the month is still terrorism, the presidential elections, and cicadas that we can make fun of Dr. Gartrell for being yet another nutcase, in a long line of nutcases?

I'm more worried about terrorists using suicide cicadas to influence the presidential elections than I am worried about a meteor or planet crashing into the earth.

But that's just me, and I'm probably one of the biggest conspiracy believers here.

27 posted on 06/02/2004 9:20:37 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act")
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To: Riley
Where this completely falls apart for me is that *this guy* has the *inside track* on *secret government information* and that all sorts of scientific organizations are being paid to cover it up. Additionally, *parties unknown* are conspiring to silence him.

Bingo. Two of the three people contacting me work in the intelligence field. The third is another "survivalist" kinda like me. I think he and I differ greatly on our politics. ALL THREE OF THEM gave me the message "this came from a very good source". That tells me they trust the source of the information. For the most part, the information contained in the original post here appeared in my emails (Including, but not limited to the asteroid/comet situation as WELL as the "Navy" comments where the navy is moving a large group of ships. I got a location (China Sea I believe they said, don't have the emails at the moment to refer to) but that was about it. I can't confirm (nor deny) ANYTHING that appeared in the emails. That's usually the case though. There is almost NEVER an originating source (got to protect that, you know!) and locations, times, dates, etc are always "fuzzy". People involved (especially those evil government people keeping secrets) are never named. Those doing the "passing on" never name themselves either.

To me, this is just one more nonsense conspiracy theory being bandied about the internet and it'll die in a few weeks as well. There is one major difference in this and Y2K for instance. Y2K WAS an incident "about to happen". The difference is that a lot of us in the computer industry worked long hours to upgrade machines that were known to have these "bugs". The utilities industries did the same (power plants etc). The FAA upgraded their own systems when it came to air traffic control, and the GPS satellites were "fixed" as well to the best of my knowledge, so "Y2K" as a 'disaster' never happened. But it COULD have. It's simply that the industry was AWARE of what MIGHT happen if they DID NOTHING. So, y2k was a non-issue. Most of these so-called TEOTWAWKI scenarios turn out to be "non-issues" because there are little FACTS to back them up, and when someone comes along and starts pointing out the real facts (like, gosh, no one has discovered or announced such a comet yet!) they are decried by the "believe community" as "being in on the conspiracy, working for the government and being paid off to shut up".

It's all so TYPICAL! (By the way, I wouldn't dump any stocks any time soon, haha, but then again, I am not a financial advisor!) Of course, I AM part of the conspiracy you see, since I work as a contractor for the government. (Richard Hoagland called me a government plant once! lol, that was certainly a nice thing to do, huh? hahaha)
28 posted on 06/02/2004 9:23:07 AM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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To: ActionNewsBill
But how are you gonna pay up if this guy is right?

WE'LL ALL BE DEAD!!!!

See how nefarious I am? Remember, I used to work for the government.

29 posted on 06/02/2004 9:24:50 AM PDT by Riley (Need an experienced computer tech in the DC Metro area? I'm looking. Freepmail for details.)
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To: Happy2BMe

Yes, I know what those are saying, but it ALL goes together.
This 'thing' we're discussing is supposed to virtually end life on this planet. Yet the Bible goes through a lot of stuff pertaining to Israel, her neighbors and events to happen before Christ's return. How will all this be possible if we're all annihilated first in a couple of weeks?
In any case, I'm not worried. We can't change what we can't change. If we get blown up this June, I'll see you on the other side. But honestly, I believe in the great "Beam-me up". No 'scientist' told me about that one. The Book did.


30 posted on 06/02/2004 9:28:24 AM PDT by JustPlainJoe
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To: JustPlainJoe; TrueBeliever9
One thing that we as Christians rest in knowing for sure, God is in control.

And if he has allowed objects in space to be on a collision course with earth, then he can in an instant cause them to veer off on another course.

Or, he can reduce the impact as he has done more than once to reveal his power to a sinful world.

Luke 17:26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.

Luke 17:28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;

Luke 17:29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed [them] all.

Luke 17:30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

Luke 17:37 And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body [is], thither will the eagles be gathered together.

31 posted on 06/02/2004 9:42:35 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (U.S.A. - - United We Stand - - Divided We Fall - - Support Our Troops - - Vote BUSH)
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To: Happy2BMe

Whaddya say folks, should we all leave our jobs, NOT pay the mortgage or car payment this month and use the money to take the kiddies to Disney World for one last fling?


32 posted on 06/02/2004 9:45:19 AM PDT by JustPlainJoe
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To: JustPlainJoe
Please don't go to Disney World to escape this thing - it will be one of the first places hit! (Especially during gay appreciation week.)

:~)

33 posted on 06/02/2004 9:48:50 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (U.S.A. - - United We Stand - - Divided We Fall - - Support Our Troops - - Vote BUSH)
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To: JustPlainJoe

You know something? I'm a Christian, too. I believe that God is there and is every bit as omnipotent and omniscient as the Bible says He is.

I also believe that it is entirely possible that the end of the world is *thousands of years* away. I will continue to believe that, even if we *were* get hit with a flying object from the Gamma Quadrant.

Are we in the end times? Maybe, maybe not. So far, what have we got? The Jews have returned to Israel. Okay, what else? I am not a Biblical scholar. Someone fill me in here.
Perhaps more to the point, what generation *hasn't* thought it lived in the end times? Huge, spectacular disasters happen. Big rocks have fallen from the sky before. They can't *all* be harbingers of The End.

I don't worry about the end times. I don't worry about Big Rocks Fom Space. As a Christian, I worry about stuff that I *can* control, like doing my best to do what God wants me to. You even have to be careful with that. There are people that sincerely believe that God wants them to blow up busloads of innocents. Well, He gave us brains and varying degrees of common sense. It's up to us to use them appropriately.

Like when people with 'secret information' start going on about pole shifts and superstorms and rocks from space and on and on and on...


34 posted on 06/02/2004 9:48:56 AM PDT by Riley (Need an experienced computer tech in the DC Metro area? I'm looking. Freepmail for details.)
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To: Happy2BMe

Those are awesome! That's what I'm talking about!

BEFORE the flood, he TOOK NOAH out in the ark.
BEFORE Sodom & Gomorrah, he TOOK LOT out.

I can only deduce that before the great calamities come,
God's mode of operation is to take His own Out!

I still maintain that certain other events must happen first. We all know about the 'mark of the beast'. Who'll be left to take it (or give it?) if we're destroyed THIS summer?


35 posted on 06/02/2004 9:51:41 AM PDT by JustPlainJoe
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To: JustPlainJoe
Anybody want to buy a titanium umbrella?

You're giving me a 'Wile E. Coyote' moment with that. Standing under a falling space rock with a Titanium umbrella would be like watching a picture-hanging finishing nail being pounded into a waterlogged balsa log with a pile driver. WHOMP!! LOL! :-)

36 posted on 06/02/2004 9:54:36 AM PDT by Riley (Need an experienced computer tech in the DC Metro area? I'm looking. Freepmail for details.)
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To: Riley

Exactly!

Yeah, what he said!


Forgive me for my humor with this topic. But while I
believe such a thing can happen (who knows?) I think it's
HIGHLY doubtful. Science is a very entertaining thing.

Isn't a collision like this attributed to what CAUSED all life to begin way back when? And now, the SAME thing may be about to happen, but for some strange reason, THIS time, it's gonna END life.
Does not compute, Will Robinson!


37 posted on 06/02/2004 9:56:26 AM PDT by JustPlainJoe
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To: Riley

Get 'em quick, folks! They're moving like hotcakes!

Only 98 genuine Titanium umbrellas left, now on sale for the very low price of $324,979.00 each. I'll throw in a set of kitchen knives to the next 5 callers! These knives have been hardly used (only on cats - I got them secondhand from the local oriental restaurant at their "going out of business" sale) and they're guaranteed to chop those falling asteroids like overripe tomatoes!
That's right, you heard it! GUARANTEED! If these babies don't keep you safe from unwanted flaming matter, you can have your money back! (providing you can find my wallet among my ashes)


38 posted on 06/02/2004 10:02:39 AM PDT by JustPlainJoe
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To: Happy2BMe

I'm right with God. I'm ready.


39 posted on 06/02/2004 10:18:12 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: JustPlainJoe

I don't think that science and faith are necessarily mutually exclusive. I think that we are far from the necessary intellectual maturity as a species to fit all of the pieces together.

I think that in the end, all of the great questions may have very different answers than any of us are really expecting.


40 posted on 06/02/2004 10:20:52 AM PDT by Riley (Need an experienced computer tech in the DC Metro area? I'm looking. Freepmail for details.)
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To: Happy2BMe
Well, I did some more reasearch on this, and it gets even weirder:

From Urban Survival

Historical: I happened to think about the piece on "Snowball Net" which, if you might recall, was a supposed intercepted radio communication between U.S. military units that I posted on this site in March. Click here for the original link and scroll down to "For the Truly Paranoid..." Urban Survival Here's what it said:

"Want to be paranoid about something akin to Planet X showing up before November? Here's a snip which I received by email yesterday - a bit aged, but interesting nevertheless:

A member of our ham radio club intercepted this transmission and shared it with a few of us. He made a digital recording of it. The transmissions took place on 1-26-04 staring at 0:5:00 UTC. The frequency was 11.176 mhz, USB.

The conversation is between SNOWBALL NET and another station. We assume SNOWBALL is the network operator.

SNOWBALL NET: Snowball Net comms check. All stations, clock sync, (pause) impact at minus 146 days, 5 hours UTC. Standby for ACC link (could have been ACD).

Burst of digital data¦

Burrow: SNOWBALL This is BURROW (could be Burro as in donkey). You are not secure¦ repeat not secure ¦ go green ¦ go green ¦

Bursts of white noise follow for approximately 3 minutes.
Copies of this have been posted on several ham boards and have been sent to Popular Communications Magazine.

OK, so that by itself is curious, although the author may have been hoaxing (or breaking provisions of the Communications Act of 1933 rules about unauthorized disclosure of third-party traffic, but we'll assuming hoaxing, right? But now add a second data point to this, the odd story of British military cavers being trapped in Mexico reported HERE

41 posted on 06/02/2004 10:21:37 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act")
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To: Happy2BMe
Sorry ...Bad link.

HERE

42 posted on 06/02/2004 10:24:05 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act")
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To: Happy2BMe

Just a couple of days ago there was an article that stated that SEVEN aircraft carriers and their support ships were head3ed out to sea on some sort of excercise.


43 posted on 06/02/2004 10:24:35 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Riley

I agree with you. We do really know so little. I just like to poke fun at scientists who'd have us believe that THEY can explain EVERYTHING with their theories.

Ready to order your umbrella? ;-)


44 posted on 06/02/2004 10:25:57 AM PDT by JustPlainJoe
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To: JustPlainJoe

And before that, there muct be some sort of peace agreement between the Arabs and the Jews.


45 posted on 06/02/2004 10:28:33 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
When was the last time you heard of SEVEN carriers and all their support ships heading at at ONCE?

Have you got a link for that?

46 posted on 06/02/2004 10:31:52 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (U.S.A. - - United We Stand - - Divided We Fall - - Support Our Troops - - Vote BUSH)
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To: ActionNewsBill
The Brits in Mexico story has expired.

Interesting bit on the HAM radio talk though.

47 posted on 06/02/2004 10:34:55 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (U.S.A. - - United We Stand - - Divided We Fall - - Support Our Troops - - Vote BUSH)
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To: Happy2BMe

http://wavy.com/Global/story.asp?S=1902088&nav=23iiNU2h

Scary stuff.


48 posted on 06/02/2004 10:36:41 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: JustPlainJoe

Don't get me started on that! There was a time when the scientific orthodoxy was quite certain that all sorts of things that are commonplace today were completely impossible.

I wonder how much of what we believe now to be empirical fact will be laughed at by the schoolchildren of the world in five hundred or a thousand years?

Still, we are compelled to try, to learn, to expand the frontiers of human knowledge. We make lots of wrong turns.

We'll see what happens.


49 posted on 06/02/2004 10:37:16 AM PDT by Riley (Need an experienced computer tech in the DC Metro area? I'm looking. Freepmail for details.)
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To: Happy2BMe
The Navy Wednesday began surging more than half the fleet to sea - something it hasn't done since the beginning of the war in Iraq. The exercise is designed to test the Navy's new way of thinking - making sure ships are ready to go more of the time. In all, seven carrier strike groups will leave. Wednesday, it was the USS Harry S Truman's turn to leave Norfolk.

USS Harry S Truman Deploys to Test Navy's Surge Capabilities

50 posted on 06/02/2004 10:37:18 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act")
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