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The Guild 9-30-2004 I'm a real man too, I just don't have pictures to prove it...
Rush Limbaugh ^

Posted on 09/30/2004 5:54:23 PM PDT by BigWaveBetty

From the Kerry interview with Diane Sawyer.

RUSH: So Diane Sawyer says, "Okay, so tomorrow night the dual for a man who says he's tired of the Bush campaign defining him." She's holding up pictures of him wind surfing, by the way. She's holding up pictures of Kerry wind surfing and Bush chopping trees and clearing brush down there in Texas, and she says, "So tomorrow night, the dual for a man who says he's tired of the Bush campaign defining him, and that even his infamous wind surfing was an act of image rebellion, is there something about a candidate who wind surfs and snowboards up against these images? So is there a symbolism here you think people are responding to?"

KERRY: You know I do those things, too; I just didn't have those photographs taken, and I love doing everything --

RUSH: Stop the tape. Now, the question here didn't even make sense to me as I read it, but here's what he's answering to. She's holding up pictures of Bush clearing brush and Kerry wind surfing and says is this a bad image for you? And what he's saying is, "Oh, I clear brush, too. I clear brush, too. I do those things, too; I just don't have those photographs taken. I just didn't have those photographs." Just like there are no photographs when you fell down the ski slope, huh? He says he's got photos. [program observer interruption] No, he doesn't have any photographs. That's it. He's cleared brush at... I don't know if he means at Bush's ranch or not, that's a good question. Where has he cleared brush? Has he cleared brush up in Idaho at the ski chalet? Has he cleared brush up at Nantucket? Has he cleared brush in Beacon Hill to move the fire hydrant? Maybe he helps the gardeners. Maybe that's what he does, I don't know, but he says he's never taken pictures of it. So here's the rest of the bite.

KERRY: -- person. I'm going to be myself, Diane. That's what's important. You know, these pictures appear because I'm not trying to appear to be somebody different. I'm not trying to fake it. I'm going out and being who I am.

SAWYER: They portrayed him as elite sports and elitism?

KERRY: They've got to go talk to a lot of the guys who enjoy doing wind surfing and the guys I go with are, you know, regular, folks. They're carpenters and electricians, guys who work on the island. If they want to have fun with it, that's fine. What matters here are the American people, not what I do in a couple of hours when I have some free time to go get some exercise.

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Go get 'em girlie man.


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To: Timeout
He slumped against the podium way too much

my guess is the slumping was merely an anger reaction. you could see it in his face also & it started about 10 seconds into K's first response. Face tightened & he leaned forward & gripped the podium.. I think he leaned forward gripped that baby like mad. Anger control.

But you are right . He was fatigued & made a choice of visiting storm victims or resting up.

41 posted on 10/01/2004 8:33:35 AM PDT by DollyCali (Orange is Kerry's color. RED + YELLOW = ORANGE. Nuf said?)
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To: lodwick

Absolutely right about makeup. (even I look better with my sorry personal job) I always thought O was attractive.. but then did see her once w/o makeup. Whoa! her nose looks a bit smaller to me know than I remembr.


42 posted on 10/01/2004 8:47:20 AM PDT by DollyCali (Orange is Kerry's color. RED + YELLOW = ORANGE. Nuf said?)
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To: DollyCali

Whoa! doesn't quite cut it: I saw the show where she went visiting her neighbors, unannounced, one weekend, just to check out what they were fixing for dinner. A great, funny, show; but she looked like ten miles of bad road that day.


43 posted on 10/01/2004 8:51:31 AM PDT by lodwick (He that meddleth with strife belonging not to him, is like one that taketh a dog by the ears.)
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To: DollyCali
Whoa!

Whoa! is a term you use with a HORSE!

Opps! Did I really say that?

44 posted on 10/01/2004 9:11:54 AM PDT by Iowa Granny (Proud to be associated with pajama wearing news gatherers)
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To: Iowa Granny; snugs

Hi ladies.. it is a great day out there now in NE Ohio.. think I will find some projects to do outside but not mowing so I can listen to Rush. I have a LOT of beads to sort

Whoa.. do you do "it" to horses also BTW ?

I have had a thought. When Teresa divorces sKerry.. he will go check out Camilla since Charlie is dragging his feet.

Horse faces unite. Now with that comment, I await sympathy as several people have told me I resemble Camilla


45 posted on 10/01/2004 9:27:56 AM PDT by DollyCali (Orange is Kerry's color. RED + YELLOW = ORANGE. Nuf said?)
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To: BigWaveBetty
Although Kerry, et al., insistently tell us there is no connection between Iraq and Al Qaida - and therefore the war in Iraq is merely a "distraction" from hunting down Osama - I've heard on Jim Quinn's radio show audio clips of a 1999 (during the Clinton years) ABC news (yes, Peter Jennings' network) report describing in detail how Saddam was aiding Bin Laden, offering him a refuge, supporting Islamic terrorism in general, etc. Of course, tracking down those stories now - especially during the presidential campaign - is not easy. Apparently, Kerry hasn't even read the memo sent by the Dept. of Defense to the Senate Intelligence Committee in 2003, which set out the long relationship between Osama and Saddam, story here.
46 posted on 10/01/2004 9:33:39 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: DollyCali

Hey, I've met you, and you're light years ahead of Camilla, honey!


47 posted on 10/01/2004 9:36:29 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer

I think it is the wild hair? thanks Ma'am


48 posted on 10/01/2004 9:40:56 AM PDT by DollyCali (Orange is Kerry's color. RED + YELLOW = ORANGE. Nuf said?)
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To: DollyCali
Thanks for the above link for Leher and Kerry, I'll look closer at it later.

never a rush to post back to me. sometimes I post & leave for hours -- or a day.

I know but since you're new around here and I had posted to others but not you, I didn't want you to think I was being snippy. I do the same thing, sometimes don't get back for days. So, now that's out of the way...

My second guess is that it cost at least 10 times as much as Laura's.

Just goes to show how much I know about expensive clothes, zip, zero, nada. But I have noticed occasionally when I come across something really ugly, it's really expensive. Again with the go figure!

Sorry, I think this is really ugly, it's almost like seersucker.

I have to back off all that as I have naturally curly hair that is about the same

Hey, me too! Mine's too long for my age, I'm just too chicken to cut it off just yet. I've been admiring Laura's cut, wondering if it would work for me. I think we have about the same amount of hair and the same texture, now just have to work up the nerve.

Yesterday was an interesting hair day. Right in the middle of applying color the door bell rang. It was the tree trimmer guy, who I wasn't expecting until later in the afternoon. Grudgingly I opened the door, he apologized for the interruption, I told him no problem, he's the one that was being accosted with such a sight. The 2nd time the bell rang he got to see the second part of the coloring process, highlights... By the 3rd ring I had shampooed and dried and put make up on.

What a nice man, he complimented the color. After I thanked him I lamented that he was able to see the whole spectrum, from bad to not so bad. How much luck can one person have in a day?! Well it was his own fault, showing up early like that.

49 posted on 10/01/2004 10:02:55 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty (Kerry - Indecision married with a lack of vision, shapeshifting, magical thinker, throws like a girl)
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To: mountaineer

What's MXC?


50 posted on 10/01/2004 10:16:59 AM PDT by Endeavor
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To: mountaineer
Had forgotten about that, thanks for the link! I had saved it way back but lost it (then forgot about it) when my computer crashed.

Here's another 1999 story from Shelia McVicar (ABC):

Broadcast audio

Transcript of broadcast:

Sheila MacVicar, ABC News, January 14, 1999 '". . . [Mamdouh Mahmud] Salim, alleged to be a key military advisor and believed to be privy to bin Laden's most secret projects, is also apprehended. The US government alleges that he was under secret orders to procure enriched uranium for the purpose of developing nuclear weapons.

These are allegations bin Laden does not now deny. "It would be a sin for Muslims not to try to possess the weapons that would prevent the infidels from inflicting harm on Muslims, but how we could use these weapons if we possessed them is up to us.

With an American price on his head, there weren't many places bin Laden could go, unless he teamed up with another international pariah, one also with an interest in weapons of mass destruction. Osama believes in the 'enemy of my enemy is my friend, and someone I should cooperate with.' That is certainly the current case with Iraq. Saddam Hussein has a long history of harboring terrorists: Carlos the Jackal, Abu Nida, Abu Abbas. The most notorious terrorist of their era all found shelter and support at one time in Baghdad.

Intelligence sources say bin Laden's long relationship with the Iraqis began as he helped Sudan's fundamentalist government in their efforts to acquire weapons of mass destruction. Three weeks after the bombing, on August 31st, bin Laden reaches out to his friends in Iraq and Sudan. Iraq's vice president arrives in Khartoon to show his support for the Sudanese after the US attack. ABC News has learned that during these meetings, senior Sudanese officials, acting on behalf of bin Laden, asked if Saddam Hussein would grant him asylum.

Iraq was indeed interested. ABC News has learned that in December, an Iraqi intelligence chief, named Farouk Hijazi, now Iraq's ambassador to Turkey, made a secret trip to Afghanistan to meet with bin Laden. Three intelligence agencies tell ABC News they cannot be certain what was discussed, but almost certainly, they say, bin Laden has been told he would be welcome in Baghdad.''

And intelligent sources say that they can only speculate on the purpose of an alliance. What could bin Laden offer Saddam Hussein? Only days after he meets Iraqi officials, bin Laden tells ABC news that his network is wide and there are people prepared to commit terror in his name who he does not even control.

'It's our job to incite and to instigate. By the grace of God, we did that.'"

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From your story link:

. According to a May 2003 debriefing of a senior Iraqi intelligence officer, Iraqi intelligence established a highly secretive relationship with Egyptian Islamic Jihad, and later with al Qaeda. The first meeting in 1992 between the Iraqi Intelligence Service (IIS) and al Qaeda was brokered by al-Turabi. Former IIS deputy director Faruq Hijazi and senior al Qaeda leader [Ayman al] Zawahiri were at the meeting--the first of several between 1992 and 1995 in Sudan. Additional meetings between Iraqi intelligence and al Qaeda were held in Pakistan. Members of al Qaeda would sometimes visit Baghdad where they would meet the Iraqi intelligence chief in a safe house. The report claimed that Saddam insisted the relationship with al Qaeda be kept secret. After 9-11, the source said Saddam made a personnel change in the IIS for fear the relationship would come under scrutiny from foreign probes.

Gee golly, you don't suppose that Osama and Saddam teamed up for the first WTC bombing, do you?

Hey Silky Pony! Rots O' Ruck on Tuesday night for your big debate with VP Cheney!

51 posted on 10/01/2004 10:26:16 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty (Kerry - Indecision married with a lack of vision, shapeshifting, magical thinker, throws like a girl)
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To: Endeavor

I probably should be embarrassed to admit to watching MXC, but it's an edited, Americanized version of a 1980s Japanese show, Takeshi's Castle, now shown on the Spike TV network, where people engage in all sorts of stupid, potentially dangerous contests. Spike TV has dubbed over the Japanese characters, so that the hosts now are Vic Romano and Kenny Blankenship, and Vic responds to everything Kenny says with, "Right you are, Ken!" and "Indeed!" It takes a certain level of idiocy, to which I freely admit, to appreciate MXC.


52 posted on 10/01/2004 10:26:20 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: DollyCali
"Whoa.. do you do "it" to horses also BTW ?"

No, but I do.

53 posted on 10/01/2004 10:52:37 AM PDT by Endeavor
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To: mountaineer

OK, I still don't quite understand MXC, but I have watched SpongeBob once so maybe that's on equal footing. (Oh, and I love watching the funeral home show on A&E -- it's a hoot.)


54 posted on 10/01/2004 10:54:56 AM PDT by Endeavor
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To: mountaineer

Kerry is clueless about the extent of islamofacist terrorism throughout the middle east. He has no clue that Iran, via Hizbollah, is working in conjuction with Al Qaeda and Arafat and Assad in Syria to foment terrorism towards Israel and in Iraq. He seems to ignore the Salmon Pac terrorist training facility in Iraq where Al Qaeda trained terrorists - there's a plane there and people were trained on how to takeover planes, ie, just like what happened on September 11th.

I'm amazed at how little he knows. It is, frankly, quite frightening. And what's worse is how little he would do to fight the War On Terror.


55 posted on 10/01/2004 10:59:47 AM PDT by Endeavor
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To: DollyCali
You are I think right Dolly I have said on other threads that GWB problem was controlled anger. He would have liked to have let rip but not very Presidential so he controlled and bottled it up which came over as tired and irritated.
56 posted on 10/01/2004 11:01:47 AM PDT by snugs (An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME)
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To: BigWaveBetty
You color and highlight your hair by yourself?!?! You are a brave woman. =)
57 posted on 10/01/2004 11:01:54 AM PDT by Aggie Mama
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To: DollyCali

Dolly I don't know what you look like but I am certain you are nothing like Camilla and I am certain you do not have her morals after all she lives quite openly with Prince Charles at Clarence House something that I think is a disgrace to my country.


58 posted on 10/01/2004 11:04:38 AM PDT by snugs (An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME)
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To: Endeavor
Never watched Spongebob; have seen the funeral home show on A&E and find it oddly depressing (maybe just because it's in L.A.); can't figure why Victoria Gotti and her worthless family are on TV at all; can't understand why wife-swapping is considered "reality TV," unless that really happens in real life a heck of a lot more often than I ever could have imagined.

Sometimes I think I'm better off just watching ESPN.

59 posted on 10/01/2004 11:07:14 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
That sounds like a fun show. Since you fussed up I will too, I watched Wife Swap on ABC! *cringe*

It wasn't too awful but there was a surprize for me at the end.

One wife comes from millions, shops, beauty parlor visits all day, ignores her children. The other from rural New Jersey, drives a school bus, chops wood and is a very conscientious mom and wife.

When the two weeks end we discover that the "poor" husband who started out hating the "rich" wife decides to have an open mind about her and they become good friends. He learns how he can be a better husband from her.

BUT... the "poor" wife and the "rich" husband really don't get along at all. He insults her and generally treats her like she's white trash and during their two weeks together she shows their children how a mother is supposed to behave. "Poor" wife scorns "rich" husband for being such a lousy dad (he sees the kids about an hour a week).

So, the "rich", "smart", elitist husband is a rude, condescending jerk and doesn't see the problem with continuing to treat the "poor" wife with disrespect.

Meanwhile the "dumb", "poor", manual laborer, rural husband is able to see past his preconceived notions about the "rich" wife and apologizes to her for being such a jerk. And she learns something too, she finally realizes that she needs to be mom to her kids and stops schleping them off on the nannies.

I'm guessing the rich husband is a democrat (they live in Manhattan). The "rich" husband should be grateful I wasn't the "poor" wife. I would have left him with a nasty bruise on one of his shins. Whew, that man needed a good swift kick!

60 posted on 10/01/2004 11:10:12 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty (Kerry - Indecision married with a lack of vision, shapeshifting, magical thinker, throws like a girl)
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