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ammonite fossils in Mount Everest and crocodiles NOW in the Sahara - evolution censors fooled
http://www.daserste.de/programm/tvtipp.asp?datum=06.12.2004 ^ | Dec. 6 | self

Posted on 12/06/2004 3:59:43 PM PST by Truth666

December 6, 2004, 9:45 P.M : the first channel of German television shows the premiere for the film "Time journeys", by Adam White and Sara Ford, supposed to be one more in the series of latest documentaries using the latest computer technology to cover-up the evolution hoax.
But this time something unprecedented happened : an audience of more than 3 million gets the chance to be informed about some of the latest facts exposing evolution, that the censors managed to hide so far.
The film starts by asking two of those facts. How comes you finf
- ammonite fossils near the top of Mount Everest, and
- crocodiles (a new species discovered in 2002, much smaller than the Nile crocodiles) living in the middle of the Sahara.


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How the censors were fooled

How comes that what was supposed to be one more computer generated film to "produce" evidence for evolution theory turned in fact to be the most successful attempt to fool the censors responsible for keeping the public ignorant about the facts exposing immediately the bog lie evolution theory ?
Probably the censors were fooled by how straight forwars was the planned goal of the film - keeping repeating the basic lie for evolution, sugesting that it happened for "millions of years".
Since the film makers just kept repeating what they were supposed to ("let's take a journey millions of years to the past"), the censors just weren't able to realise that in fact the film makers were providing more clues to help the brain washed public understand the truth.
For example in the case of the Sahara crocodiles they showed Sahara wall paintings ("5,000 years old") portraying the animals that lived in the Sahara, while immediately after using the "millions of years" magic words ...
1 posted on 12/06/2004 3:59:44 PM PST by Truth666
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To: Truth666

huh?


2 posted on 12/06/2004 4:08:03 PM PST by bpcons
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To: Truth666

ok


3 posted on 12/06/2004 4:08:05 PM PST by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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To: Truth666

If you keep trying to expose the fraud of evolution, you're only going to make the Devil mad.


4 posted on 12/06/2004 4:09:16 PM PST by elbucko (Feral Republican)
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To: Truth666

Doh! I suppose that for some these facts must be absolutely mindboggling.

But only to the uneducated would these facts appear to contradict evolution. In fact they support it 100%, so whoever you are, you should blow off so hard.


5 posted on 12/06/2004 4:10:34 PM PST by John Valentine
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To: Truth666
I say we take the flat earthers from here and the DUmmies and give 'em their own site. We can call it Tin Foil Underground Republic.
6 posted on 12/06/2004 4:11:08 PM PST by don'tbedenied
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To: John Valentine

Thyat should have been "NOT blow off so hard".


7 posted on 12/06/2004 4:11:23 PM PST by John Valentine
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To: Truth666
Hate to break this to you, but land masses shift, mountains are born, seas rise and fall.

It's not really breaking news that we find giant seashell fossils in the middle of west Texas, for example.

8 posted on 12/06/2004 4:12:24 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone

I have a whole box full of fossilized sharks teeth I found on the eastern shore of lake Huron.


9 posted on 12/06/2004 4:14:21 PM PST by cripplecreek (I come swinging the olive branch of peace.)
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To: don'tbedenied

"flat earthers" - are they the same people that hide the findings on top of Mt. Everest ?


10 posted on 12/06/2004 4:14:54 PM PST by Truth666 (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Proof+that+at+least+one+of+two%22)
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To: Truth666

Convinced me! Now I'm gonna put on my aluminum foil hat so the aliens can't read my mind.


11 posted on 12/06/2004 4:15:28 PM PST by Whitehawk
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To: Truth666

I don't get it... How do Ammonite fossils in the Himilayans disprove evolution? Surely, you do realize that when the Amonites were plentiful, according to scientists, the Himilayan mountains did not exist yet. That was about 500 million years ago. Much more recently (I forget exactly when), India supposedly crashed into Asia, resulting in the relatively brand-new mountain range rising up, lifting sedimentary rocks formed on the ocean floor to heights over 25000 feet.

On the other hand, I'm not sure how biblical literalists explain fossilized sea creatures 29,000 feet up.

Oh, and you do realize that the Sahara was recently quite moist, don't you?


12 posted on 12/06/2004 4:16:23 PM PST by dangus
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To: Dog Gone

Or to find ammonite fossils on top of Mount Everest, which was once on the bottom of a tropical sea, as were ALL the Himalayan Mountains.

As for Saharan crocs, as recently as a few thousand years ago, during the great glaciations, the Sahara was a well watered place, a huge granary in fact, and supported very large human populations, and had wetlands and everflowiing streams. It would have been astonishing indeed if there were NOT crocs living there under those conditions.

All in all, a big "duh"!


13 posted on 12/06/2004 4:16:40 PM PST by John Valentine
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To: Truth666

What??? You mean my ancestors weren't hanging from the trees? Ohhhh, the humanity! Are we seeing idiocy as its evolving???


14 posted on 12/06/2004 4:17:19 PM PST by avant_garde
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To: don'tbedenied

Satan's Tin-Foil Underground. Hopefully, we can abbreviate that in some way that's *not* rude. :^D


15 posted on 12/06/2004 4:17:54 PM PST by dangus
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To: John Valentine

Great, so you will provide me with what google didn't : a page exlpaining the Sahara crocodiles with evolution ...


16 posted on 12/06/2004 4:19:33 PM PST by Truth666 (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Proof+that+at+least+one+of+two%22)
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To: PatrickHenry

ping


17 posted on 12/06/2004 4:20:24 PM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: Truth666

Saharan crocs don't really link up with evolution. They are too recent, and probably died off as the Sahara died out. But some may still live.

Maybe you ought to hone your Googling skills, as I found this very interesting item:

http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/natsci/herpetology/NEWSLETTER/news192p4-6.htm


18 posted on 12/06/2004 4:24:24 PM PST by John Valentine
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To: Truth666

Um.... an Irish woman discovered them crocs.


19 posted on 12/06/2004 4:24:44 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (Fighting for Liberty in the birthplace of Edmund Burke!!)
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To: Truth666
For example in the case of the Sahara crocodiles they showed Sahara wall paintings ("5,000 years old") portraying the animals that lived in the Sahara, while immediately after using the "millions of years" magic words ..

The Sahara desert as we know it is only a few thousand years old. What's your point?

20 posted on 12/06/2004 4:27:33 PM PST by Fatalis
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To: Dog Gone
Hate to break this to you, but land masses shift, mountains are born, seas rise and fall.

My 10 yr old asked me the other day, "Dad, what's the biggest flood Nevada ever had?"

Wise old Dad thinks for a bit then says, "Probably in 1983 / 84. We had a good El Nino going if I remember right."

"No, Dad. Try when the whole state was under water!"

Silly me.

LVM

21 posted on 12/06/2004 4:31:34 PM PST by LasVegasMac (If it ain't smoked, it ain't worth puttin' on the table!)
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To: John Valentine

Oh really? How? Prove it.


22 posted on 12/06/2004 4:36:29 PM PST by plain talk
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To: LasVegasMac

Basic geology should be a core requirement for high school. It really should.


23 posted on 12/06/2004 4:40:19 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: plain talk

I don't think I'll even try to "prove" anything to you as your argumentative approach indicates that you are closed minded on this subject and you only want to engge me in a futile and time-wasting exchange.

I think if you peruse the posintgs on this thread, you can see the gist of my thought, shared widely by others, it appears.


24 posted on 12/06/2004 4:40:33 PM PST by John Valentine
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To: John Valentine

Makes you kinda glad that Columbus set off on his foolhardy journey to the edge of the earth doesn't it?


25 posted on 12/06/2004 4:43:25 PM PST by cripplecreek (I come swinging the olive branch of peace.)
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To: don'tbedenied

You can add the atheists and evilutionists to that list. I'd be glad to see those pukes vanish.


26 posted on 12/06/2004 4:43:49 PM PST by plain talk
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To: John Valentine

As I expected. Another closed minded evilutionist with sh!t for brains.


27 posted on 12/06/2004 4:46:03 PM PST by plain talk
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To: plain talk
Better add me to your list Reverend
28 posted on 12/06/2004 4:47:34 PM PST by cripplecreek (I come swinging the olive branch of peace.)
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To: plain talk

That was uncalled for and goes outside the bounds of acceptable comment on this board. You are risking much.


29 posted on 12/06/2004 4:57:08 PM PST by John Valentine
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To: Fatalis

We know that since 1933, and evolution theory also, right ?
http://www.google.com/search?q=sahara+pre-historic+paintings+Tassili+evolution


30 posted on 12/06/2004 4:58:21 PM PST by Truth666 (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Proof+that+at+least+one+of+two%22)
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To: JeffAtlanta

Thanks for the ping, but the lead article is a tragically ill-informed bit of drivel. I don't think I should ping the list for this one.


31 posted on 12/06/2004 5:07:51 PM PST by PatrickHenry (The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: PatrickHenry

Yeah, you've got a point - now that I read it again, it is pretty sad.


32 posted on 12/06/2004 5:31:59 PM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: John Valentine

John, the THEORY of evolution has thus far been unable to produce FACTS to support it. But please inform us all when it does.


33 posted on 12/06/2004 5:32:08 PM PST by Nuzcruizer
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To: Nuzcruizer

So tell me, who was Cains wife?

You see, there are a few problems with the story of Adam and Eve as well.


34 posted on 12/06/2004 5:57:30 PM PST by cripplecreek (I come swinging the olive branch of peace.)
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To: John Valentine
You should watch some of the evolution vs creation shows on cable. Borders on charlatanism and fraud. The explanations put forth by some of these people make Pig boy Moore and his theories seem lucid.
35 posted on 12/06/2004 7:26:13 PM PST by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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To: plain talk

Really doing your bit to maintain the image of Bible-Believing Christians


36 posted on 12/06/2004 7:32:21 PM PST by Oztrich Boy ("Ain't I a stinker?" B Bunny)
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To: plain talk

Really doing you bit to maintain the image of Bible-Believing Christians


37 posted on 12/06/2004 7:36:10 PM PST by Oztrich Boy ("Ain't I a stinker?" B Bunny)
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To: Nuzcruizer

Perhaps evolution is a theory, but creationism is even less than that. Not only can't creationism produce PROOF to the standard "beyond any doubt whatsover even in the most dedicated opponent" demanded of evolutionists, it has trouble producing mere evidence, relying instead on holy writ.

This thread contains some of the weakest thinking on the subject I have ever seen. Some pro-creationist argument at least has a semblance of cogency, but that has not been in evidence here today.


38 posted on 12/06/2004 7:52:56 PM PST by John Valentine
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To: bpcons

read later


39 posted on 12/06/2004 10:02:45 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Secularization of America is happening)
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To: dangus
On the other hand, I'm not sure how biblical literalists explain fossilized sea creatures 29,000 feet up.

The Flood put them there, of course. ;)

40 posted on 12/07/2004 8:40:17 PM PST by NeuronExMachina
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To: NeuronExMachina

Not to take your post too seriously (recognizing the winkie), One really must wonder how long it would take the slow moving sea creatures to climb from the Bay of Bengal to the heights of Everest.


41 posted on 12/07/2004 8:47:28 PM PST by dangus
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To: dangus
Not to take your post too seriously (recognizing the winkie), One really must wonder how long it would take the slow moving sea creatures to climb from the Bay of Bengal to the heights of Everest.

I think the current rate measured is about a quarter inch per year (or four years per inch). Making the probably unsafe assumption that the rate has been constant for the past N years:

4 (year/inch) * (12 inches/foot) * 29,035 (feet) = 1,393,680 years

Of course, that's an absurdly rough calculation, but I think it's around the right order of magnitude.

42 posted on 12/08/2004 1:06:15 AM PST by NeuronExMachina
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To: Truth666
to people who write : sea-fossils found where they oughtn't be can easily be explained by plate tectonics. Mountains are the results of two plates pushing up against each other, so the ground is going to raise up.
Since the formation of mountains takes an exceedingly long time ... I win. Do I get a cookie?

No you don't. Of course the film had to keep repeating the "plate tectonics" explanation - that's what the film makers were paid for, and that's why (as I explained before) the key points of the film were not censored. But ...
43 posted on 12/08/2004 10:39:50 AM PST by Truth666 (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Proof+that+at+least+one+of+two%22)
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To: Truth666

... but to help the brain washed public (any child is able to understand that only zombies can swallow a story of an ammonite being raised from sea level to 7000 meters altitude, proudly keeping its form and balance on top of the world ...) on this subject, the film makers found also a good example. It was presented also right at the beginning of the film. A plane crashing in a New Zealand glacier, does that ring a bell ?


44 posted on 12/08/2004 10:44:36 AM PST by Truth666 (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Proof+that+at+least+one+of+two%22)
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To: Dog Gone
It's not really breaking news that we find giant seashell fossils in the middle of west Texas, for example.

I found a "New Coke" can along the highway the other day.

45 posted on 12/08/2004 10:56:15 AM PST by dirtboy (Tagline temporarily out of commission due to excessive intake of gin-soaked raisins)
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To: Truth666
... but to help the brain washed public (any child is able to understand that only zombies can swallow a story of an ammonite being raised from sea level to 7000 meters altitude, proudly keeping its form and balance on top of the world ...) on

Rather straightforward explanation for that.

I don't agree with all premises of evolutionary theory. But you are confusing plate tectonics with evolution - two very different subjects.

But, then again, you confuse a lot of things.

46 posted on 12/08/2004 10:57:31 AM PST by dirtboy (Tagline temporarily out of commission due to excessive intake of gin-soaked raisins)
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To: Truth666

I'm a little confused here... do you think the measurements showing the height of Mt Everest constantly increasing have been falsified?


47 posted on 12/08/2004 1:38:03 PM PST by NeuronExMachina
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To: NeuronExMachina

That's irrelevant for this issue


48 posted on 12/09/2004 10:50:36 AM PST by Truth666 (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Proof+that+at+least+one+of+two%22)
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To: Truth666

Forgive me, for I haven't seen the documentary myself. Could you elaborate on what your objection is?


49 posted on 12/09/2004 11:05:45 AM PST by NeuronExMachina
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To: NeuronExMachina

It's all clearly stated in the sequence I wrote above in this thread. If you don't understand a particular step in that sequence, please state it


50 posted on 12/09/2004 11:12:38 AM PST by Truth666 (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Proof+that+at+least+one+of+two%22)
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