The Mystery of Illegal Immigration: My Theory as to why both parties are shirking the duty.

06/19/05 | Tom Haas

[Mr.Haas]

Before I begin explaining my theory, can we all agree that illegal immigration is a problem that most Americans (even liberals are against it, most of the time) disagree with? I voted for G.W. Bush for his second term because I was most certain that such a "conservative" President would do us all a favor and stop the 15 million illegal immigrants in our country, sneaking into our country at the rate of 3 million per year. After all, if homeland security is so important during this unprecedented magnitude of war, surely securing the borders should be at the top of that list, correct? Well, sadly, both parties have failed us. Illegal immigration is at an all time high.

So what's going on? I have the answer:

This may sound a little too "conspiracy theorist" for your taste, but it's the only explanation I can think of; and I'm quite positive I'm right.

Before we think about our ineptitude in securing the border, we must take China into consideration.

Oh My! What ever do I mean by this?!

China, to me, will be the next super-power, economically and militaristically, within the next 15 to 50 years. They are agressively trying to emulate our economy, technology, and military. Now, this wouldn't be a problem if history didn't teach us that two powerful countries cannot exist on the same planet at the same time. Competition between powerful nations will always breed war. Therefore, it would be reasonable for us to stay ahead of China in every aspect of power, correct?

What is the one thing China has that We the people do not? POPULATION.

China has almost triple our population. If they could emulate our military's technology, they could stomp us in the ground, because they would be able to draft three times as many people. Catching on yet?

My theory is that the "open border" we seem to be seeing is actually a meticulously calculated plan to augment our population drastically to prepare for future wars, especially one with China.

3 million illegals per year. In fifteen years, that would be 45 Million new people (plus our natural 1-2 percent growth as an MDC).

Draft all the young latino men. You've got a war with China. Bam!

[SteveMcKing]

Welcome to FR.

[ncountylee]

The old canon fodder theory.

[Slings and Arrows]

Sniff?

[onyx]

[Flyer]

How many years would it take our population to catch up with China?

(I'm bad at math)

[PeoplesRepublicOfWashington]

There's a better way to do this--annex Mexico.

[Flyer]

A thread as your first post and no replies.

You're digging your own hole here.

[SteveMcKing]

We're trying to reduce our national cancer.

[Flyer]

Draft all the young latino men. You've got a war with China.

Why would China start a war if we drafted all the young latino men?

[Northern Alliance]

Western politicians don't think 15-50 years in the future. I am not so sure Asian ones do either, btw.

Both parties want the Hispanic vote. That is why they will not enforce the law, and why Bush called the Minutemen vigilantes. There is nothing complicated or subtle about it.

[Marine Inspector]

Illegal immigration is at an all time high.

Incorrect. We are far from the FY 2000 high.

[MinorityRepublican]

Incorrect. We are far from the FY 2000 high.

Statistics comparing FY 2000 and FY 2005 please?

[PeoplesRepublicOfWashington]

An expansion of the country is long overdue--no new state since 1960.

[Marine Inspector]

As of March 2005, the first half of FY 2005, the BP has apprehended 396,190 illegal aliens.

The FY 2000 total was 1.6 million.

We on track to apprehend lees then 50% of the FY 2000 total.

[Marine Inspector]

Should read; "We are on track to apprehend less then 50% of the FY 2000 total."

I'm tired.

[MJY1288]

A ground war with China will never happen, simply because China isn't capable of deploying their forces overseas. I don't care how many uniformed soldiers China has, the only way we would have to worry about matching their numbers is if we were invading China. Since that will never happen, we should focus on our trade policies. All it would take to collapse the Chinese economy is to stop all their imports from arriving in our ports. The Chinese are far too invested in our economy to be planning for a future Military conflict. If we cut off their access to our markets, China would look like North Korea within a year

[Flyer]

That ok, I tired, too.

[William Terrell]

Mr. Haas, you're new here, so you may not understand how this madhouse works.

If you don't start responding to the various posts, folks will think you're a troll. Please believe me when I say trolls have no credibility out here at all. If you are thought a troll, any effort you make to analyze the situation, share your thoughts, and have them seriously considered will be a waste of time.

Just trying to help.

[Flyer]

China has almost triple our population

China has about 4 times our population.

Maybe you were better at theatre arts.

[MJY1288]

Apprehension numbers are not the same as illegal immigration numbers

[SteveMcKing]

Expand for what reason? So foreign cultures can pay federal taxes?

If mexico could manage their own affairs and create a state without poverty, crime, corruption, and a massive drug trade, then I'd consider it a candidate for state #51. Erasing our borders will only spread those problems to here.

[Marine Inspector]

If you have a better way of estimating the number of illegals that enter the country, please let those of us that work in immigration law enforcement know. Apps are what we use.

[MJY1288]

Well! You can look at those numbers and conclude that Illegal Immigration is on the decline as well. It all depends if you look at the glass as half full or half empty.

Less apprehensions could also equate to as not as many border crossers to apprehend

[MJY1288]

Considering the increase in the number of Border Agents we have now, compared to what we had back in 2000, I think it's reasonable to conclude that the number of attempted illegal border crossings are down

[Marine Inspector]

You can look at those numbers and conclude that Illegal Immigration is on the decline as well.

The only folks that would conclude that are the ones that don't live and work along the border. Those of us that do, know the truth.

Goodnight.

[MJY1288]

So you're telling me that you and your fellow border patrol officers are not doing your job as well as you did in 2000?

[Marine Inspector]

Considering the increase in the number of Border Agents we have now, compared to what we had back in 2000, I think it's reasonable to conclude that the number of attempted illegal border crossings are down

LOL. Of course the numbers are down from 2000. That's what I said in the beginning. As for the number of new Agents, we have about 1,000 more now, then in 2000 and not all are working along the southwest border.

[Marine Inspector]

Try re-reading what I said.

[MJY1288]

My bad, I misunderstood your post :-)

[MJY1288]

LOL, I guess I'm tired too :-)

Goodnight, and thanks for protecting our border

Mike

[Fruit of the Spirit]

"Both parties want the Hispanic vote."

I may seem a little off track here, but my observation of the Mexican lifestyle is one that is very prolific. Catholic dogma has taught them not to use contraceptives, so, whether or not they can afford to feed another mouth, they breed like rabbits. 15M today could more than quadruple in twenty years.

Amnesty and a few other entitlements should ensure that THEY not only have the vote, they have control.

[Northern Alliance]

I may seem a little off track here, but my observation of the Mexican lifestyle is one that is very prolific. Catholic dogma has taught them not to use contraceptives, so, whether or not they can afford to feed another mouth, they breed like rabbits. 15M today could more than quadruple in twenty years.

Again, I don't think politicians are thinking twenty years ahead, not even five. While I don't know the exact figures, yes, the Hispanic population is growing very quickly, - far faster than the white or black segments, but that has little to do with the current posture of both parties.

[GarySpFc]

We on track to apprehend lees then 50% of the FY 2000 total.

But is the border patrol working with the same efficiency now as then? There have been stories that we are dragging our feet purposely now? It appears to many of us that the government wants illegal immigration.

[GarySpFc]

I can tell you that everyone I talk to sees 5 times the number of Hispanics in the public as they did just 2 years ago. The numbers have increased dramatically.

[MeekOneGOP]

[MikefromOhio]

Mother of God!!!

[MikefromOhio]

A war with Chinese will result in A LOT of dead Chinese.

And the funny part is, the Chinese know this and the idiots trolls, like yourself, don't.

[Jet Jaguar]

Mr.Haas,

This reply is to you.

Are you there?

Please respond.

JJ

[Zacs Mom]

[sweetliberty]

"How many years would it take our population to catch up with China? "

Well, I'm not a math whiz either, but if we now have 11% of Mexico's population, according to a thread yesterday (at least half of which are illegal) and half that number again of illegals from other countries and given the fact that they breed like bunnies (instead of killing their babies like many Americans do), add to that the thousands more per day pouring through the gaping holes in the borders, I figure in another 10 years, they'll probably outnumber Americans 3 to 1 and the open borders idiots will be wondering why their welfare checks are getting smaller and their children can't get grants to go to college.

As far as using those numbers to base our military operations on, it's pretty hard to draft anybody you can't number and track. But isn't this a back door to the liberal promotion of the draft...to blame on the Republicans, of course? Besides, the liberals don't give a hoot about being a superpower. They think superpowers are evil nationaist xenophobes.

I think we have us a troll. We'll see. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt....for now.

[PilloryHillary]

[metesky]

Now, this wouldn't be a problem if history didn't teach us that two powerful countries cannot exist on the same planet at the same time. Competition between powerful nations will always breed war.

You mean like that horrible shooting war we had with the USSR? Oh, the humanity!

You should have changed your major to history, kiddo.

[Jet Jaguar]

I just added the keyword (Trolltimer)

I suggest this word is to be used to see if we ever get a response.

Feel free to add and search this keyword to see all the post&and&runners we run into.

[No Blue States]

lol! good one.

[IllumiNaughtyByNature]

[afnamvet]

That happy weed you're smokin' will kill ya!

[MeekOneGOP]

buuuuuuuuuump!

:)

[Republican Wildcat]

Nearly twelve hours later and we're still waiting.