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Questions for Harvey C. Mansfield: Of Manliness and Men
NY Times Magazine ^ | March 12, 2006 | Interview by DEBORAH SOLOMON

Posted on 03/12/2006 11:04:42 AM PST by Pharmboy


Dana Smith
Harvey C. Mansfield.

Q: As a staunch neoconservative and the author of a new feminism-bashing book called "Manliness," how are you treated by your fellow government professors at Harvard?

Look, if I only consorted with conservatives, I would be by myself all the time.

So your generally left-leaning colleagues are willing to talk to you?

People listen to me, but they don't pay attention to what I say. I should punch them out, but I don't.

In your latest book, you bemoan the disappearance of manliness in our "gender neutral" society. How, exactly, would you define manliness?

My quick definition is confidence in a situation of risk. A manly man has to know what he is doing.

Hasn't technology lessened the need for risk taking, at least of the physical sort?

It has. But it hasn't removed it. Technology gives you the instruments, and social sciences give you the rules. But manliness is more a quality of the soul.

How does someone like Arnold Schwarzenegger stack up?

I would include him as a manly man.

But doesn't he exemplify the sort of man whose overdeveloped muscles are intended to mask feelings of insecurity?

Yes, but then he stepped up to become governor of California. He took a risk with his reputation.

What about President Bush? He's a risk taker, but wouldn't his penchant for long vacations be a strike against him?

I wouldn't say industriousness is a sign of manliness. That's sort of wonkish. Experts do that.

What about Dick Cheney?

He hunts. And he curses openly. Lynne Cheney is kind of manly, too. I once worked with her on the advisory council of the National Endowment for the Humanities.

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TOPICS: Books/Literature; History; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: femininity; manliness; manlymen; men; morediscipline; women
Well, at least they spoke to the guy...it's a start.
1 posted on 03/12/2006 11:04:45 AM PST by Pharmboy
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To: Pharmboy

They can't be looking to interview really manly men, my phone hasn't rung all day.


2 posted on 03/12/2006 11:05:53 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: martin_fierro; wagglebee; governsleastgovernsbest; thefactor; SunkenCiv; Petronski; aculeus; ...

The Times talks about manliness ping list. I believe this is the only time this ping list will be used...


3 posted on 03/12/2006 11:07:25 AM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Maybe you were in the shower?


4 posted on 03/12/2006 11:08:30 AM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
"They can't be looking to interview really manly men, my phone hasn't rung all day."

Mine either. I probably missed it while I was out branding cows this morning.(ahem)

5 posted on 03/12/2006 11:17:20 AM PST by blam
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To: Pharmboy; Tijeras_Slim; beyond the sea; Thinkin' Gal; Petronski; Constitution Day; dighton; ...
How, exactly, would you define manliness?
My quick definition is confidence in a situation of risk. A manly man has to know what he is doing.

"A man has got to know his limitations."

6 posted on 03/12/2006 11:23:29 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Tijeras_Slim; Pharmboy
Maybe you were in the shower?


7 posted on 03/12/2006 11:26:24 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: martin_fierro; Tijeras_Slim
LOL!! I'm sure TS would use a manly soap like this...
8 posted on 03/12/2006 11:34:25 AM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: martin_fierro
People listen to me, but they don't pay attention to what I say. I should punch them out, but I don't.

Do so! (a night in jail ain't so bad)

9 posted on 03/12/2006 11:37:15 AM PST by beyond the sea (The definition of a 'Targeted Tax Cut' is ........................ you ain't gettin' it .)
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To: Pharmboy; martin_fierro

Ewe have got to be kidding.

10 posted on 03/12/2006 11:37:20 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Pharmboy; xsmommy; Lazamataz; TheBigB; pissant; Owl_Eagle
When was the last time you did something that required physical strength?
It's true that nothing in my career requires physical strength, but in my relations with women, yes.
Such as?
Lifting things, opening things. My wife is quite small.
What do you lift?
Furniture. Not every night, but routinely.

I *like* this guy.

11 posted on 03/12/2006 11:40:14 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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My quick definition is confidence in a situation of risk. A manly man has to know what he is doing.

Sounds right to me.

A decade or so ago, the Pittsburgh mayor, the HOT and gracious Sophie Masloff was hitting on me at a city sporting event. I knew what to do.

More later.............

12 posted on 03/12/2006 11:49:03 AM PST by beyond the sea (The definition of a 'Targeted Tax Cut' is ........................ you ain't gettin' it .)
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To: beyond the sea; Petronski
A decade or so ago, the Pittsburgh mayor, the HOT and gracious Sophie Masloff was hitting on me at a city sporting event. I knew what to do.

Spare us the sordid details, willya.

13 posted on 03/12/2006 11:52:25 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: martin_fierro; Petronski
Spare us the sordid details, willya.

Ah, Sophie looks like a vaudevillian comedian there.

She was HOT the night we were together.

She actually complimented me on my exquisite Hebrew.

God knows what she meant by the following even after she translated it into English:

"Eat vegetables and fear no creditors, rather than eat duck and hide."

Oye Vey.... and Double Yoi!

14 posted on 03/12/2006 12:03:02 PM PST by beyond the sea (The definition of a 'Targeted Tax Cut' is ........................ you ain't gettin' it .)
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To: beyond the sea

Sophie means "love"

Masloff is Russian for "butter."



Her name means Butter Lover.


15 posted on 03/12/2006 12:19:24 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: beyond the sea

Whoops, Sophie actually means "knowledge"

Masloff is Russian for "butter."



Her name means Butter-Knowledge.


16 posted on 03/12/2006 12:20:26 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: Petronski
Her name means Butter-Knowledge

Smart guy........... that's a slippery slope.

17 posted on 03/12/2006 1:05:47 PM PST by beyond the sea (The definition of a 'Targeted Tax Cut' is ........................ you ain't gettin' it .)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

they're very cute...........


18 posted on 03/12/2006 1:07:44 PM PST by beyond the sea (The definition of a 'Targeted Tax Cut' is ........................ you ain't gettin' it .)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
They can't be looking to interview really manly men, my phone hasn't rung all day.

I would apologize to you for keeping them occupied for hours...instead, I will give you a nice roundhouse kick.

19 posted on 03/12/2006 1:23:08 PM PST by JRios1968 (A DUmmie troll's motto: "Non cogito, ergo zot")
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To: JRios1968

LOL


20 posted on 03/12/2006 1:26:36 PM PST by MikefromOhio
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To: Petronski

Actually Sophie means "wisdom", but who's counting?


21 posted on 03/12/2006 1:40:30 PM PST by Mad Dawg (If you find yourself in a fair fight, you did not prepare properly.)
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the sort of man whose overdeveloped muscles are intended to mask feelings of insecurity
...from the dep't of spin doctored questions.
22 posted on 03/12/2006 9:54:45 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Yes indeed, Civ updated his profile and links pages again, on Monday, March 6, 2006.)
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