DNA Results Could Shed New Light On Duke Lacrosse Investigation(2nd 911 Call By Dancer at Party)

WRAL.com ^ | 4/7/2006 | Julia Lewis

[OakOak]

In other developments, a defense attorney for one of players says he knows who made the 911 call the night of the alleged gang rape.

"We're absolutely positive the caller was not the accuser, but the other young lady there," Cheshire said.

Cheshire said witnesses have talked to the woman and a comparison of audio tapes proves the caller was the second dancer at the party, but Durham police say they do not know who called.

[Howlin]

Because I get sick of seeing the same articles posted over and over with made up titles.

Besides, it's forum protocol, remember?

[Howlin]

That doesn't convey the news that the second Dancer has been verified as the caller on the first 911 call according to Defense attorneys. I was trying to be accurate.

Then either find an article that does, or post a vanity in Bloggers and write your own title.

[OakOak]

Cowboy Bob,

There are many strange things about this case. One was that on Dan Abrams, 2 guests (a former prosecutor and a Defense attorney) both said that he Boyfriend drove her to the Hospital? Incredible as it sounds, they said on National TV that the police didn't take her and she didn't arrive in an Ambulance. So, YES, she certainly could've been hit by a boyfriend that found her only in see-thru underwear and was intoxicated (and without her cash for the night).

One other unbelievable thing is that the Police waited 31 hours for her to provide any details or tell her story for the first time. 31 hours is too long to wait for a criminal mind like Crystal's. She was out with her boyfriend the same day she was released from the hospital. As everyone knows, after a criminal trial, the Civil trial comes and that's where Payoff is.

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[Howlin]

If I were on that team I'd be suing the hell out of everybody... including media jackals.

I bet some of their "rich, white" parents are thinking about that right now, huh?

[OakOak]

I know now. One other person (maybe you) had said something on another thread but when they said MADE-UP article titles, I thought they were challenging the veracity of the article. Calling it fake or misrepresented.

I know now, and I'll follow protocol. No problem here.

[Locomotive Breath]

I can't figure out the cars. We've got two strippers. According to neighbor Bissey, they are supposed to have arrived separately - 30 minutes apart. That means one car per stripper. So when the purported rape victim (call her "Mangum") leaves for the final time she gets, not into her own car, but into the other stripper's car (call her "Kim"). Is this because, by this time, Mangum is so nearly comatose that she can't drive her own car? Doesn't that mean that Mangum leaves her own car at the scene? Why does Kim hang around long enough for the party to break up (as demonstrated by the fact that the guy she says is yelling at her is no longer at the house but across the street) and then call the cops?

Kim probably wants to dump the now comatose Mangum into a ditch and get away from the whole event. Kim's not in a condition to see the police herself and doesn't want to answer questions, so she tries to do the halfway right thing and tries to dump Mangum onto the Kroger security guard. Police are called anyway and Kim's nailed as a participant in the evening's events.

Yet we have info that sometime the next day Mangum dropped her car off at her father's house saying she wasn't going to drive it for a while. Doesn't that mean that Mangum or someone else went back to the scene to pick up her car which had been left there the night before? What true rape victim would go back to the house where she had been raped?

[LK44-40]

I was feeling kinda sorry for you about how you were being roughly handled and now you have gone and mentioned Nancy Graceless and completely lost my sympathy![grin]

[LWalk18]

According to neighbor Bissey, they are supposed to have arrived separately - 30 minutes apart. That means one car per stripper.

Simple- Kim drove to the house, the accuser was dropped off later on by someone (boyfriend?) Afterward, both strippers left in Kim's car.

[Palladin]

You two are amazing! Thanks for ferreting out all the info on Crystal Gail Mangum and her criminal record.

Several talking heads on TV will be eating humble pie when the whole truth comes out about this alleged "rape".

Nancy Grace and Kimberly Guilfoyle: Do you like your crow baked, stewed, or fried?

[Locomotive Breath]

OK - if Mangum were dropped off and things had gone off without incident, how was Mangum supposed to get home? Call someone to come get her at 2 am? Either Mangum had prearranged with Kim, who Mangum was not supposed to know before, or someone else (boyfriend/pimp) was to be called out. Maybe Mangum's really stupid, but I sure wouldn't go out on an assignment like that one unless I knew I could make a quick exit if I had to.

I'll bet Mangum's cell phone (recovered with her purse?) and the record of calls has a wealth of information about her activities that evening.

[LWalk18]

Probably whoever dropped her off would also come to pick her up. It was clearly unwise to dance at a private house without a bouncer, but this likely wasn't the most reputable "business" in the world. In fact, it seems clear to me that the escort service was a prostitution services. I read an article that said that strippers are usually hired from entertainment services, not escort services.

[SirJohnBarleycorn]

Perhaps the green honda mentioned by police in the affidavit was the car the accuser drove to the house.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1607267/posts?page=635#635

[stands2reason]

If you wish, you can put the relevance of the article in parentheses after the title (like this!)

Reason behind it is, it makes it easier to search on if the original title is posted as-is. That way there are fewer double-posts.

And welcome to FR!

[OakOak]

May be. Kim was driving a Dark blue Honda Accord (she says looks black at night).

[OakOak]

Thank you Sir!

[OakOak]

Look at this list of actual Headlines and see how bad the media wanted it to be true.

The Devils at Duke
White boys Wilding
Racism, Sexism, and priviledge play roles in scandal at Duke
Black Students rally around Duke Rape victim
NC Central Chancellor: The alleged victim has our support
Duke lacrosse team out of control
Duke lacrosse allegations fit mold
Committee to probe Duke Lacrosse culture
Duke Season cancelled due to bad behavior
Duke Team incident merits punishment
Duke Lacrosse case somehow gets uglier
Duke Lacrosse team had a reputation for swagger
Threats made against Duke Lacrosse team
Duke's lacrosse team incident has hate crime written all over it.
Duke Lacrosse team in trouble before
Duke games called off amid team sex scandal
Duke Lacrosse Rape claim spurs outrage
Duke Larcosse Rape scandal; accused players revealed in victim's statement
Duke Lacrosse Players may be charged for failing to stop Gang-Rape
Grusome Duke Lacrosse Details
Duke Lacrosse behavior unacceptable
Advantages of the privileged Lacrosse sect
Truth is worse than fiction: Duke Lacrosse
Player threatens Strippers in E-mail
The Devils came out in Durham
Duke Team exposed
Male violence against Women at Duke
Sounds like Hate
Duke players afflicted by sense of entitlement
A call for outrage
Fraternity of Silence
Hundreds join rally for victim
Professor wants team to be disbanded
Knowing White from Wrong
Code of Silence harms integrity
Another Reason to Hate Duke
To Hate like this
Take back the Night against Sexual Assualt at Duke
3 miles and a World away, a vigil for the accuser
Sex crimes awareness vigil at Duke
NCCU students march against assualt at Duke
Day 3 of Protests at Duke
Crowd gathers to protest Lacrosse team
Speak out against team scandal
Search warrant reveals plans for another team party
NAACP weighs in on rape case
DA confident Gang Rape occured
Dancer tells of Duke Rape
Victim reveals details of ordeal
Duke should do the Honorable thing
NAACP meets with DA in Duke Lacrosse case
DA stands behind rape charge
DA: Rape may have a racial angle
A pained community gives love and support to victim
Duke saga shows athletes can’t be allowed to think they are above the law

[OakOak]

So much for the presumption of innocence.

[LWalk18]

Reading the search warrant, it appears to me that the Green Honda belonged to one of the residents, but it isn't clear. It is parked on the side two days later, when the search is conducted.

[Locomotive Breath]

It has Virginia tags on it. Much more likely for an out-of-state student than Mangum. It was also in the garage which seems unlikely for the strippers. I can't find the list posted in an earlier thread but was one of the three team captains from Virginia?

A 10-year-old economy car? Sounds like the player/owner was really "wealthy". I mean no offense to those who drive 10-year-old economy cars, but I'm pointing out the inaccuracy of the stereotype with which the players are portrayed.

[Perdogg]