Posted on 06/19/2006 5:46:52 PM PDT by jexus
In thinking about Coulters' new book, I am reminded of the grand review by Whittaker Chambers of "Atlas Shrugged" by the conservative atheist Ayn Rand. He begins:
"Since a great many of us dislike much that Miss Rand dislikes, quite as heartily as she does, many incline to take her at her word. It is the more persuasive, in some quarters, because the author deals wholly in the blackest blacks and the whitest whites. In this fiction everything, everybody, is either all good or all bad, without any of those intermediate shades which, in life, complicate reality and perplex the eye that seeks to probe it truly."
Now, when I comes the "The Jersey Girls", I give Ann a great hurrah, I dislike them as heartily as she does and her comments are well overdue and seem to have made the liberals go wild in fits and spasms because of the truth that she reveals.
What is distressing to me is her sad, moronic description of Darwinism, a simple rehash of creationist claims which are an embarrassment to thinking people. Many works exist that deal with the issue, a good starting point may be the decision of the Republican Judge Jones in the Kitzmiller case. Just beware of getting your science from a columnist.
That leads here to asert that religion is essential to the conservative cause, or perhaps that anti-religion is essential to the liberal one. Check out Michael Crichton in his essay "Environmentalism as Religion" and many others.
I am a Republican and conservative because,-- I oppose Pseudoscience, Epistemic relativism and those disciplines or schools of thought whose truth claims are prompted by the political, ideological and moral commitments of their adherents.
I believe in the great ideas of the Enlightenment, which our founders encased in our constitution. That includes both a hatred of tyranny from an aristocracy and was also deeply suspicious of the power of the churches.
I am for liberty under law, for private property and pluralism. I think these ideas are worth defending by not only intellectual expression but also with military might if need be.
Call me Godless Ann, but call me a conservative.
I too am an Atheist, believe in evolution and consider myself pretty much Conservative with a good dose of Libertarianism.
There will be naysayers to each of the "counter conservative" beliefs (Atheism, Evolution and Libertarianism) but those that mock them almost always do so without a shred of understanding.
That's what makes them so easy to dismiss. Well, that and the fact that they're wrong.
Thanks for posting!
he got the zot... now you are alone...
No way!
You are welcome to be an atheist and conservative but your assertions on darwinism are misguided.
Judge Jones' opinion is proof positive of religious hostility. The idea that intelligent design OPTIONS in Dover's curriculum constituted an establishment of Christianity (not just religion but Christianity according to Jones) is a crystal clear case of the zeal Darwinists have for their Faith.
Its cliche but true. Darwinism was at the core of the highly intellectual philsophies of the third reich. Absent God, the strong will annihilate the weak. Scientists have shown themselves poor arbiters of this possiblity. Darwinism creeps into ethics and dominates.
I support your independent conscience but I do not agree with your assessment of present threats. Dover is a bad example.
Evolution and Christianity are not incompatible, John Paul II made this very clear. Also, when you say that God could not have worked through evolution, you are putting God into your own personal context, and you are denying the power of God to suit your own beliefs. No human being is in a qualified position to say how God does things. If the beast in Revolution is really not a beast, but a human being known in the Antichrist, then why is it that the creation story must be taken word for word, without interpretation, cause clearly, all of the readings of the various apocalypses in the Bible are based on interpretation. And if we are allowed to interpret one thing, but not another, then who is making the call?
Oops, replied to the wrong post. Ahh, well. . . it still works! :)
I think Ann's point is that liberalism has substituted its political doctrine as its religious one (in general, of course) and fights non-adherence with a dogmatic fever that rivals the fervor of most any fanatical religious group.
Epistemic relativism
Define morality!
Zotting him might have been a step too far. I was hoping he would respond.
Thomas Aquinas didn't back down from this fight.
You left out (in relation to "Darwinism"), poorly-researched and poorly-referenced.
The creationist claims she parrots have been oft-rebutted, here and elsewhere.
Creationist websites are simply not the best places to go if you are looking for accurate portrayals of scientific research.
But you won't find "jexus" any more.
Oh, so now I have to change my views to what the pope says? I'm not Catholic BTW... Some Christians also think its OK to be gay but that doesn't mean its correct.
Remember those who were "Making The Trip?" They had a belief system, and they weren't stupid.
Best opening line of a novel, ever: "I always get the shakes before a drop."
Conservatives smoke, conservatives drink domestic beer, conservatives love Nascar, conservatives believe in creationism ... blah, blah, blah.
Story of my life. There is no escape. I am "God's Lonely Man." ;-)
So, Jexus was a deep cover agent, or something? Sometimes I don't get it.
That's hard to argue with. But, remember the short story Jubal was dictating in Stranger, which began something like: "We keep Uncle Albert in a bucket. He prefers it that way."
Memory is faulty on the exact words, but I would like to have read that story!
[End thread lightening interlude.]
I know several atheists: to-the-button libertarians, most of them. All I can say (as a Christian) to them (and my door is always open) is something they cannot refute: "God Loves You, Too."
And I love you, too.
I love you too. I say that without the least bit of sarcasm.
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