All true and Andrea Yates should get the death penalty, then burn in hell.
I suppose it's the headlines I object too...."marital dispute"?!
He murders his own children and himself and there might have been a "dispute"? Something doesn't smell right there. SHE is lying outside on the sidewalk uninjured? Completely uninjured? I wonder where she was in defending her four babies, that's all. They had more than a mere "argument." And it didn't suddenly start in ONE day. Has she NO part in this? Is she completely blameless in all this? Four babies and one father/husband are dead.....and she isn't even injured.
It ALWAYS AND ALWAYS takes two to fight. One person alone can't have a "fight," "argument" or "dispute"; it always takes TWO. So if there is a fight, then both are to blame for the fight. That's just a fact.
Also, when buttons are pushed, they are pushed by someone, KNOWING full well that buttons are being pushed. That goes for spouses, siblings, work-mates, whatever. That's the egregious part of fighting: buttons pushed are pushing someone farther and farther. The button pusher knows this but never knows "how far" the other person will go. That is always an unknown, yet the buttons continue to be pushed and pushed and pushed.
Some people just prefer to push buttons because they know they can. It's part of the control they have and exercise....especially when THEY don't have the guts, backbone, courage, brains, desire, whatever, to solve the problem WITHOUT pushing buttons.
Then when pushed-person goes "too far," the button pusher can ALWAYS say, "I didn't know s/he would go off like that. Besides, it's not MY fault, I didn't pull the trigger."
I was just wondering. This wasn't merely a dispute or argument. He didn't simply "go off" one day. I would be hard pressed to believe that she was blameless.
I am just wondering, that's all.
She will weep her way past any blame, naturally. Andrea Yates is doing a good job of it. Humans will do that with women, especially young women....let them weep their way past due process. Practice. It works.
Then, she will remarry and have more children. One hopes she will have learned something about disputes, arguments and fighting.
She wasn't home to defend the babies...did you read the article? It clearly says she was gone, with a friend, for about an hour. Come home to find him dead.
Erm, what sentence do you think Mr. Yates should get? The analogy you chose speaks volumes. You associated people in the passion plays by gender, rather than by the roles they played...
I suppose it's the headlines I object too...."marital dispute"?!
The headline is neutral. Seeing anything more in it would come from a reader's perception.
He murders his own children and himself and there might have been a "dispute"? Something doesn't smell right there. SHE is lying outside on the sidewalk uninjured? Completely uninjured? I wonder where she was in defending her four babies, that's all. They had more than a mere "argument." And it didn't suddenly start in ONE day. Has she NO part in this?
Seriously, you need to work on your understanding of personal boundaries. There was nothing that she did or could have done to *make* him do this.
Is she completely blameless in all this?
Unless she pulled the trigger, yes, she is blameless. Due to some red flags that I saw in the news report, she prolly will tend to agree with you, rather than with me. Still doesn't change the fact that 100% percent of blame falls on the one who pulled the trigger.
Four babies and one father/husband are dead.....and she isn't even injured.
While she has no physical injuries, I would hardly say that she is unscathed by this. There is no doubt in my mind, that was the point. Ya wanna shred someone, harm those they love.
It ALWAYS AND ALWAYS takes two to fight. One person alone can't have a "fight," "argument" or "dispute"; it always takes TWO. So if there is a fight, then both are to blame for the fight. That's just a fact.
I disagree. Inadvertently burning the pot roast is not an act of war... Seeing the burnt pot roast as proof that your SO doesn't care about you, is.
Also, when buttons are pushed, they are pushed by someone, KNOWING full well that buttons are being pushed. That goes for spouses, siblings, work-mates, whatever. That's the egregious part of fighting: buttons pushed are pushing someone farther and farther. The button pusher knows this but never knows "how far" the other person will go. That is always an unknown, yet the buttons continue to be pushed and pushed and pushed.
There is one appropriate, healthy response to button pushing. All of us are responsible for disarming our own buttons. Long as we try to lay blame for our reaction on the button pusher, we are handing them power over us.
Some people just prefer to push buttons because they know they can. It's part of the control they have and exercise....especially when THEY don't have the guts, backbone, courage, brains, desire, whatever, to solve the problem WITHOUT pushing buttons. Then when pushed-person goes "too far," the button pusher can ALWAYS say, "I didn't know s/he would go off like that. Besides, it's not MY fault, I didn't pull the trigger." I was just wondering. This wasn't merely a dispute or argument. He didn't simply "go off" one day. I would be hard pressed to believe that she was blameless. I am just wondering, that's all.
Bet he killed the kids as the ultimate act of pushing her buttons... He sure showed her... Unless she pulled that trigger, she was in no way responsible for his actions!
She will weep her way past any blame, naturally. Andrea Yates is doing a good job of it. Humans will do that with women, especially young women....let them weep their way past due process. Practice. It works. Then, she will remarry and have more children. One hopes she will have learned something about disputes, arguments and fighting.
She is not to blame, any more than Mr. Yates is to blame. Do I think she & Mr. Yates were Both enablers? Yes, yes I do. Doesn't mean I place fault on either of them for the horrific actions of their spouses.
Your head is soooo far up your butt I don't know where to start. When I married my ex he liked a drink now and then, by the end of our 16 year marriage he was a raging abusive alcoholic. One of his "buttons" I pushed was telling him the weather forcast before he left for work. Tell me how to avoid things like that. Many people still believe that marriage is forever and we don't end it unless our life is at risk. How do you know when someone is going to snap. It must be convienient being psychic. Most of us are not so blessed.
I have no trouble believing that Trevor Branscum was a controlling, violent, psychotic POS who didn't need anybody's help in getting to the point of doing this.
The mother might well have been weak in mind and spirit, and scared of him. Her "fault" may lie in simply finding, for once, the backbone to stand up to him.
I can definitely see her being completely undone by the murders of her children, and in a state of utter collapse, which would explain why she was lying there "uninjured."
your attitude is very disturbing.....and , very revealing....
Have you?
This terrible event happened 4 1/2 years ago, but I just now found this website.
I have known Amanda and had know her 4 incredible children for 5 years before that day.
To the person that posted this, whoever you are, I hope you NEVER have to feel the pain and sorrow that she feels every second of every day.
How do you think it feels every time she sees a child that is the same age as her children were the day they were brutally stolen out of her life?
You are the very worst kind of person to put so much judgment on something that you, clearly, know absolutely nothing about.
I knew Trevor, and no matter what it was that “snapped” in him that night, no one ever would have imagined that he could, or ever would do this.
“She will weep her way past any blame, naturally”
WEEP? If someone loses their children in this manor, I hardly believe simply weeping is going to offset any blame that is owed to them.
Her ENTIRE life was stolen away from her in 5 reloadings of that hunting rifle that hadn’t even seen the light of day in years.
I refuse to give you the satisfaction of knowing what kind of person Trevor was before this day, so I won’t be telling you the ACTUAL details of that night, because contrary to popular belief the media rarely get the facts straight.
I hope Amanda never reads what you have written. And I hope that in the past 4 years you’ve “learned something about disputes, arguments and fighting.”