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Show links Darwin, Hitler ideologiesHolocaust was fallout of evolution theory
World Net Daily ^ | Posted: August 19, 2006 | World Net Daily

Posted on 08/19/2006 6:39:43 AM PDT by RaceBannon

Show links Darwin, Hitler ideologies Holocaust was fallout of evolution theory, says new production

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: August 19, 2006 1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

Charles Darwin should share with Hitler the blame for the 11 million or more lives lost in the Holocaust, a new television special explains. And, the program says, the more than 45 million American lives lost to abortion also can be blamed on that famous founder of evolutionary theory.

The results of Darwin’s theories

"This show basically is about the social effects of Darwinism, and shows this idea, which is scientifically bankrupt, has probably been responsible for more bloodshed than anything else in the history of humanity," Jerry Newcomb, one of two co-producers, told WorldNetDaily.


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To: bray; dirtboy

How many breeds of dogs were there before Darwin's day? Cattle? Corn in the New World?

Selective breeeding has been around for a very long time. Darwin has nothing to do with Hitler's notions.


161 posted on 08/20/2006 7:44:50 AM PDT by From many - one.
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To: Stultis

1. Anti-Semitism was rampant in Eurpoe centuries before Luther was born.

2. Luther's views were shared by a majority of his contemporaries, regardless of their religious affiliation.

3. In his later years, Luther softened his views toward Jews to the point that it would be difficult to brand him as anti-Semitic at all.


162 posted on 08/20/2006 7:48:19 AM PDT by Skooz (Chastity prays for me, piety sings...Modesty hides my thighs in her wings...)
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To: bray
Laugh it off right. Anybody who disagrees with evolution or dares to question it is a heretic.

I have some disagreement with Darwinian evolution. That has nothing to do with how ridiculous this line of argument is.

Hitler hated Jews and non-Germans. The hate came first, the justification came later. Blaming evolution for the Holocaust is utterly absurd and stupid.

163 posted on 08/20/2006 7:53:33 AM PDT by dirtboy (This tagline has been photoshopped)
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To: From many - one.

Your right, just a coincidence. Maybe you should read about Hitler and Himler's early education in Vienna before you make that assumption.

Fact is there is alot of proof that these connections existed if you want to look. But that is not PC since Evolution is a preferred religion.

Pray for W and Our Troops


164 posted on 08/20/2006 7:53:37 AM PDT by bray (Koffi 4 Food has Failed)
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To: Treader
So, Popman, you know this as fact? How?

Pogrom

The U.S. educational system is simply atrocious at teaching history...

165 posted on 08/20/2006 7:54:29 AM PDT by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: bray
Fact is Hitler was attempting to evolve a super race of Aryans through genetic evolution. He believed in Darwin and believed that man was still evolving. That is why he had to rid Germany of the "weeds" or Jews, Slavs and Gypsies as well as the handicapped for fear of diluting the race.

Logical fallacy of "argument from adverse consequences". Whether or not Darwin inspired Hitler has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not the scientific theory of evolution is true.

If you really want to go down the argument from adverse consequences route consider this: The words "evolution" and "Darwin" appear absolutely nowhere in Hitler's speeches. On the other hand Hitler made numerous references to "God". When attempting to galvanise the German people Hitler didn't invoke evolution, he invoked their Christian faith, and exploited the long-standing religiously inspired hatred of Jews. By your logic (which I personally don't endorse) we should distrust Christianity, as it is tainted by association with Nazism.

Funny how Darwin is going the way of the Dinosaur?

Evolution, a theory facing imminent collapse every year since 1859. That particular prediction is getting old.

166 posted on 08/20/2006 7:55:21 AM PDT by Thatcherite (I'm PatHenry I'm the real PatHenry all the other PatHenrys are just imitators)
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To: dirtboy

The only thing stupid is to be ignorant. But hey, its a free world, thanks to stopping Hitler, Stalin and Mao. All taught evolution and killed Christians. Yeah, its stupid to make the connection.

Pray for W and Our Troops


167 posted on 08/20/2006 7:57:01 AM PDT by bray (Koffi 4 Food has Failed)
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To: bray
Fact is Hitler was attempting to evolve a super race of Aryans through genetic evolution.

Beep. Circle takes the square. Hitler believed the superior Aryan race already existed. He was attempting to prevent it from interbreeding with "lesser" races through the process of exterminating those races. Hitler's beliefs actually stem from a form of Theosophy that held one race (the Aryans) were created by God and other races came about by other means. It was imperative in this philosophy that God's race not be contaminated in any way.

So, to make a long story short, Hitler wasn't trying to breed a race of supermen, he was trying to keep it from breeding with anyone else.

168 posted on 08/20/2006 7:58:18 AM PDT by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: bray
The only thing stupid is to be ignorant.

Deliberate ignorance is even more stupid. Hate came first. Evolution was just the rationalization - if not evolution, Hitler would have just come up with something else.

169 posted on 08/20/2006 7:59:18 AM PDT by dirtboy (This tagline has been photoshopped)
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To: bray
Fact is Hitler was attempting to evolve a super race of Aryans through genetic evolution.

Animal and plant breeders gave Darwin the idea for evolution; not the other way round.

Do you suppose no one bred plants and animals before Darwin?

170 posted on 08/20/2006 8:00:27 AM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: bray

I think you'll find Hitler was using [b]Intelligent Design[/b] of races to reach the ends he wanted, not sitting back and letting nature (natural evolution) take it's course.


171 posted on 08/20/2006 8:04:02 AM PDT by bobdsmith
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To: bray
The only thing stupid is to be ignorant. But hey, its a free world, thanks to stopping Hitler, Stalin and Mao. All taught evolution and killed Christians.

What are you smoking? Germany of the 30's and 40's was an overwhelmingly Christian nation. The wehrmacht went to war with a full complement of chaplains. Christians were on both sides in European WW2 (except on the Eastern front, where German Christians fought Soviet atheists)

172 posted on 08/20/2006 8:05:21 AM PDT by Thatcherite (I'm PatHenry I'm the real PatHenry all the other PatHenrys are just imitators)
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To: Thatcherite

Actually the Aryan bible took the Jews out and replaced them with Aryans. The cross was replaced with a Spear.

The Christian myth was produced by a number of historians fearful of the truth of his mythology and satanic worship being exposed. Fact is he murdered thousands of ministers and priests who were found preaching the gospel.

His connections to evolution and satanic ritual were pretty well written about after the war. Read Mien Kompf and say he is not for weeding Aryan society.

Fewer and fewer are believing Darwin, while more and more are believing Creation. Darwinism is just an atheistic scientific explanation that has man at the top of the food chain. That causes all sorts of moralistic problems. Look at SodomWood, a perfect example of man making the rules. As long as it is PC, anything goes.

Pray for W and Our Troops


173 posted on 08/20/2006 8:08:38 AM PDT by bray (Koffi 4 Food has Failed)
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To: dirtboy

Being extremely well read about Hitler and WWII would eliminate me from being deliberately ingorant. But go ahead and make the point.

He was attempting to Evolve a Super Aryan race of godlike men who he believed could rule the World. Go read some books about his inner circle and then spew your nonsense. He was not trying to breed a stronger faster animal, he was attempting to breed a god or the next evolution from man. This has been written about for decades and only now the curtain is being removed.

Why do you think the Nazis believed Blacks were closer to apes than we were due to brain size and forhead thickness etc.

His SS were chosen for the most perfect Aryan features as well as intellegence and were encouraged to impregnate as many German women as possible to make his superior race. He even encouraged them to have sex in graveyards to bring up some ancient Aryan mythical gods to recreate the ancient Reichs.

Oh he was definately into evolution.

Pray for W and Our Troops


174 posted on 08/20/2006 8:23:12 AM PDT by bray (Koffi 4 Food has Failed)
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To: RaceBannon
Contemplate the religious fervor associated with the pro-abortion advocacy. The societal practice of abortion is ritual mass murder upon the altars of conceit dedicated to idolatrous vanities, a collective human sacrifice before pagan idols.

It has a similitude to the Teutonic paganism of Adolph Hitler (whose idolatry was the idea of a "master race," among other things). In effect, these genocides are a mass human sacrifice to those pagan idols. The abortionists, like the National Socialists, incinerate the remains of their victims.

Aleister Crowley, who openly supported the National Socialists, was affiliated with Ordo Templi Orientis, A.A. (Order of the Silver Star) and other such occult lodges all across Germany. Crowley engaged in all manner of deviancy, homoeroticism, sadomasochism and murder.

Much of the occultism in National Socialism is derived directly from there. Crowley envisioned himself as the Great Beast (To Mega Therion), just as der Fuhrer made himself in that image. Hitler's life as a struggling, inept artist was where that association blossomed.

Crowley's creed, "Do what thou wilt, shall be the whole of the Law," (which is actually from Francois Rabelais) and used by Neo-Pagan nutcases without attribution for obvious politically correct reasons, is with certainty no different than the National Socialist "will to power," or their ubermensch mentality.

It is also no accident Nietzsche's "over-man" and nihilist philosophy and resulting insanity from venereal disease closely mirrors the insanity of der Fuhrer.

These occult orders, sex and drug cults still survive today, as do the Neo-pagan, Neo-Nazi groups, black supremacist Rastafarian potheads, prison gangs and other related filth.

Crowley occultism is also from where L. Ron Hubbard emerges with Scientology. Note the NAZI symbolism of that kooky cult of weirdoes. Germany cracked down hard on the Scientologists also because they are using similar mind control techniques...

It is no coincidence Islamic pagans hate Israel, Jews, Christians and Western Civilization. The entire basis of Western Civilization is Mosaic Law, something both the Neo-Pagan Left and the pagan Islamic thugs cannot abide and wish to destroy.

The very idea that human beings have individual rights not subject to the whims of an earthly monarch, but subject to the laws of Yahweh, is directly from Moses.

Historically, this is proven over and over again with the successive conflicts between the forces of paganism and the Judaic culture. (This includes the idolatry of cultural Marxist paganism.)

A greater number of "atheists" and "pagans" adopt the same hackneyed tenets of a false Judaic-Christian ideal (golden calf). They also subscribe to the Judaic fetishism of "sin," but will fight to their death in denial of it. Most of them are so wrapped up in their own polemics that they have become nothing more than pathetic anti-Christians with the same false hypocritical philosophy. They just slap a new label on it hoping nobody will notice - - they replace the idea of "avoiding sin" with "morals."

Morality and all of its associated ideals are rooted entirely in the presupposition some higher power defines what is correct in human behavior. Today, "morals" are a religious pagan philosophy of esoteric hobgoblins. Transfiguration is a pantheon of fantasies as the medium of infinitization. Others get derision for having an unwavering Judaic belief in Yahweh or Yeshua, although their critics and enemies will evangelize insertion of phantasmagoric fetishisms into secular law.

Mosaic Law (of which the Ten Commandments is just a part) is the foundation of Western Civilization. Genesis is the primary focus of the Declaration of Independence, from where our Constitutional rights are derived. The Ten Commandments are the foundation of our judicial system.

Moses Genesis. This is why such people will jump up and down screaming when the Ten Commandments are displayed or the Creationist idea of monogamy from the book of Genesis is introduced.

The latter (Genesis) also ruins the illogical and non-biological arguments of homosexual monogamy. In a secular sense, homosexuality is an idolatry of perversion. It is in no way an anatomical function of the human organism, but a phantasmagoric creation from within the mentally disturbed human mind, a social psychosis, naked and on full exhibitionist display.

This is the whole crux (pun intended) of their attack on creationism - - they are really frustrated by Genesis, but cannot destroy the axiomatic state of procreant human biology, it does not fit their religious agenda.

Homosexual monogamy advocates seek ceremonious sanctification of their anatomical perversions and esoteric absolution for their guilt-ridden, impoverished egos.

Neither of those will satisfy their universal dissatisfaction with mortality or connect them to something eternal. With pantheons of fantasies as their medium of infinitization, they still have nothing in them of reality, any more than there is in the things that seem to stand before us in a dream.

Homosexual deviancy is really a pagan practice (and a self-induced social psychosis) at war with the Judaic culture over what is written in the book of Genesis (1:27, 2:18).

This is exactly what the National Socialists were at war with... especially considering their eugenic breeding programs... so, when someone uses the term "Gaystapo," they might not realize how close to the truth they really are.

Many will seek ceremonious sanctification and esoteric absolution in some type of marriage rite, but that still fails to give them a connection to the eternal in both a religious and temporal, procreant sense - - the union does not produce offspring.

Dissatisfaction with inevitable mortality only feeds the impoverishment of the ego further. Homosexuals really hate human life; their whole desire is rooted in the destruction of it...

The evolutionists are also at war with Genesis...

175 posted on 08/20/2006 8:23:43 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: bray

I couldn't find a book called Mien Kompf anywhere. I did find a book called Mein Kampf though.


176 posted on 08/20/2006 8:24:03 AM PDT by bobdsmith
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To: RaceBannon

You're right, this has been brought up before!

Anyhow, whether or not the theory of evolution is correct, I don't believe Darwin considered it a model for governments to pattern themselves after.

And there is the fact that in the wild, "only the strong survive." Again, it's not legitimate to use this as a model for "might makes right."

Humans are thought to be unique in having been given the ability know right from wrong; that's the model we should follow.


177 posted on 08/20/2006 8:30:37 AM PDT by Sam Cree (Don't mix alcopops and ufo's)
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To: RightWhale
That is the reductio ad hitleram, a fallacy,...

No, both are/were at war with what is written by Moses in Genesis, especially when you consider the religious fervor attached to most of the evolutionists...

How would evolutionists feel about teaching that life came from outer space? They already teach the Big Bang theory, don't they?

Both are immaculate conceptions...

178 posted on 08/20/2006 8:34:30 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: DoctorMichael
How would evolutionists feel about teaching that life came from outer space? They already teach the Big Bang theory, don't they?

Both are immaculate conceptions...

179 posted on 08/20/2006 8:36:43 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: bray
Actually the Aryan bible took the Jews out and replaced them with Aryans. The cross was replaced with a Spear.

The Aryan bible didn't take the jews out. It turned Jesus into an Aryan, to distance Him further from the Jews who were held as being responsible for his death. Furthermore it didn't appear till the '40s and was never produced in great quantity. Most Germans would never have seen one, and Hitler never referred to it in his speeches to them.

The Christian myth was produced by a number of historians fearful of the truth of his mythology and satanic worship being exposed. Fact is he murdered thousands of ministers and priests who were found preaching the gospel.

Really, Hitler (or presumably you actually mean other Germans (who would themselves have been more than 90% Christians) killed thousands of ministers and priests for "preaching the gospel". Doubtless you can cite a source for that claim? How did this sit with the 90%+ of Germans who were Christians?

His connections to evolution and satanic ritual were pretty well written about after the war. Read Mien Kompf and say he is not for weeding Aryan society.

Weeding Aryan society (whatever that may have been) had nothing to do with evolution. For every evolutionary reference in any part of of Hitler's published or spoken work I'll supply you with 10 references in which he invokes the Christian God or Christ himself. You REALLY don't want to go down the adverse consequences route; it is far worse for Christianity than for evolution.

Fewer and fewer are believing Darwin, while more and more are believing Creation....

in your dreams. In most of the industrialised world evolution is the dominant explanation for life. Even in the USA the proportion rejecting evolution is remaining approximately static.

.... . Darwinism is just an atheistic scientific explanation that has man at the top of the food chain. That causes all sorts of moralistic problems. Look at SodomWood, a perfect example of man making the rules. As long as it is PC, anything goes.

Argument from your perception of adverse consequences is a feeble counter to the abundant scientific evidence that supports evolution. I know nothing of "SodomWood", but I assure you that just because one is an atheist it is false to say that "anything goes". The theory of evolution says absolutely nothing about who should or shouldn't be at the top of the food chain. If you think that the only thing stopping you from behaving badly is your Christian faith then I suggest that you notify your local police department of your flakiness, in case you have a crisis of faith.

180 posted on 08/20/2006 8:36:45 AM PDT by Thatcherite (I'm PatHenry I'm the real PatHenry all the other PatHenrys are just imitators)
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