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Timeless Denzel [ reviews of Deja Vu a movie with String Theory as a prop ]
SF Chronicle ^ | Sunday, November 19, 2006 | Hugh Hart

Posted on 11/26/2006 8:37:33 AM PST by SunkenCiv

In the time-travel thriller directed by Tony Scott, Washington stars as a federal agent investigating the bombing of a ferryboat full of sailors. Intrigued by one of the terrorist's victims (Paula Patton), he gets a chance to alter the day's tragic outcome after being recruited by a covert government surveillance lab capable of bending time and space.

"Thank God I didn't have to play a scientist," Washington says, laughing. "They sent me some stuff on black hole theory by that scientist in the wheelchair -- Stephen Hawking -- and I didn't know what they're talking about."

In the movie, researchers offer a cram course in string theory, parallel universes and wormholes while citing Einstein's musings about a "bridge" that that could fold back time at faster-than-the-speed-of-light velocity.

"In a sense, I am the audience in this movie," Washington says. "I'm like, 'Huh? Tell it to me in English!'" ... "Being older now, I probably appreciate more how fortunate we actors are," he says. "You sit around the set sometimes and go, 'Wow, look at what we get to do.' I'm not knocking the post office, but I used to work there, and I could be there now, being a supervisor. So, you know, this is a good job."

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: stringtheory

Denzel Washington plays a time-traveling federal agent in "Déjà Vu." Photo courtesy of Touchstone Pictures

Timeless Denzel

1 posted on 11/26/2006 8:37:35 AM PST by SunkenCiv
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You'll feel like you've seen this before
by Stephen Witty
Nov. 21, 2006, 4:42PM
Have you ever had the feeling that you've lived through something before? I know I have, and it usually comes halfway through the latest Jerry Bruckheimer action picture... In many ways, it's a typical Bruckheimer blockbuster. Large objects blow up in slow motion, and people scream, silently, "Noooooooooooo" into the camera. There's a good actor as action star (Denzel Washington), an eye-catching background (New Orleans), a hissable villain and several car chases. This time, though, the script factors in some science fiction, courtesy of Minority Report, string theory, wormhole physics and some of the spacier parts of What the Bleep Do We Know? ...It's crammed full of visuals -- the multiple images of Enemy of the State, the pyrotechnics of Man on Fire. At one point, this high-tech "Laura" allows Washington to look into the past and stand as close to his beautiful about-to-be-murder-victim as a Peeping Tom. At another, he speeds through a strange fourth-dimensional car chase -- one eye seeing it in the present, one eye seeing it in the past... If you feel you've seen some of it before, that's not ESP. That's Hollywood.

2 posted on 11/26/2006 8:40:04 AM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, November 16, 2006 https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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3 posted on 11/26/2006 8:40:21 AM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, November 16, 2006 https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

It all comes clear once you see that real objects cannot move.


4 posted on 11/26/2006 8:42:46 AM PST by RightWhale (RTRA DLQS GSCW)
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To: SunkenCiv
Already posted.

in a quantum sense

5 posted on 11/26/2006 8:56:19 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: martin_fierro

;')


6 posted on 11/26/2006 9:24:02 AM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, November 16, 2006 https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: RightWhale
It all comes clear once you see that real objects cannot move.
Kinda silly of 'em to make a motion picture then. ;')
7 posted on 11/26/2006 9:26:45 AM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, November 16, 2006 https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: martin_fierro

Why do I get the feeling I have seen this thread before.


8 posted on 11/26/2006 9:38:06 AM PST by CougarGA7
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To: SunkenCiv

That's right. The movie doesn't move. All the movement is a figment of our minds.


9 posted on 11/26/2006 12:01:03 PM PST by RightWhale (RTRA DLQS GSCW)
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To: RightWhale

;') It's frame-dragging...


10 posted on 11/26/2006 12:12:26 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, November 16, 2006 https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
Have you come across this in your reading?:

The entire universe disappears and is recreated many times a second. (Gives the appearane of motion, which is impossible in continuous reality.) There is a man who ensures that it reappears by making sure that God knows somebody cares enough to pay attention. There is always such a man, just one. If that man should die and not be replaced the universe will disappear one last time, instantly.

No, I will not provide references. This is not for casual link and access.

11 posted on 11/26/2006 12:20:06 PM PST by RightWhale (RTRA DLQS GSCW)
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To: RightWhale
The entire universe disappears and is recreated many times a second. (Gives the appearane of motion, which is impossible in continuous reality.) There is a man who ensures that it reappears by making sure that God knows somebody cares enough to pay attention. There is always such a man, just one. If that man should die and not be replaced the universe will disappear one last time, instantly.
Nope, have not seen that before. I have heard the following, which is from a much older tradition:
Now it's said, and said truly, of the hero, Finn McCool, that if one day goes by without his name being mentioned, the world will come to an end. -- Robin Williamson

12 posted on 11/26/2006 12:58:20 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, November 16, 2006 https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
Good catch. "The druid Finegas catches the Salmon of Knowledge and gives it to him to cook. Finn burns himself while doing so and sucks his thumb, thus acquiring the gift of prophecy" The story is nearly mythical and is based on prehistoric (possibly Proto IndoEuropean) myth. It happened to a lot of people.

http://www.mth.kcl.ac.uk/~tcoolen/finn/maccool.htm

13 posted on 11/26/2006 2:27:56 PM PST by RightWhale (RTRA DLQS GSCW)
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To: RightWhale

Jerry: "It's Salman, not Salmon."

;')

I believe that "The story is nearly mythical" s/b "The story is clearly mythical".

sidebar: Finn also appears as Cuchulain in the Ulster sagas, and in Scotland as Fingal. For that matter, the late Stan Rogers references Fingal in his song "Giant" (it's on his first album, "Fogarty's Cove").

Fingal's cave, made of the same basalt as that making up the Giant's Causeway:
http://www.sat.dundee.ac.uk/arb/scotland/fingals.html


14 posted on 11/26/2006 2:48:53 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, November 16, 2006 https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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[still off-topic]

The Cattle-Raid of Cooley (Táin Bó Cúalnge)
http://departments.vassar.edu/~sttaylor/Cooley/


15 posted on 11/26/2006 2:51:04 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, November 16, 2006 https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Also, parts of Fin MacCouly are near duplicates of parts of Homer's Odyssey. Not the thumb part, though. Indicates really, really old and possibly before writing when Homer was just spoken verse.


16 posted on 11/26/2006 4:15:57 PM PST by RightWhale (RTRA DLQS GSCW)
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To: SunkenCiv

Actually, I've never heard Fionn MacCumhaill equated with Cuchulainn. Cuchulainn's father was said to be Lugh (sun god), while the name of Fionn's father can be inferred from Fionn's surname ;-)

As for Fingal of Scotland ... that I don't know, so I'll defer to you there :)


17 posted on 11/27/2006 2:34:54 AM PST by annie laurie (All that is gold does not glitter, not all those who wander are lost)
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To: RightWhale
"The druid Finegas catches the Salmon of Knowledge and gives it to him to cook. Finn burns himself while doing so

Grease from the frying pan splashed him?

18 posted on 11/27/2006 11:49:27 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: Jeff Chandler
Since you axed . . .

He was ordered to cook the fish without raising a blister on it. Naturally a blister popped up so Fin pushed it back down with his thumb, which got burnt in the process. He chewed off the burn, and kept going through the skin, through the flesh, through the bone, through the marrow of his thumb, at which point he figured out how to dispose of the giant. Smart? You be the judge. But anytime thereafter he needed a shot of wisdom he would knaw his thumb and an idea would come to him.

19 posted on 11/28/2006 8:36:30 AM PST by RightWhale (RTRA DLQS GSCW)
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