Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Ten reasons why you should buy a Mac
The Register ^ | 03/21/2007 | by Tony Smith

Posted on 03/21/2007 9:19:12 AM PDT by Swordmaker

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-47 next last

1 posted on 03/21/2007 9:19:15 AM PDT by Swordmaker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: 1234; 6SJ7; Abundy; Action-America; af_vet_rr; afnamvet; Alexander Rubin; Amadeo; anonymous_user; ..
10 reasons to buy a Mac - Ping!

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

2 posted on 03/21/2007 9:20:16 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Swordmaker

I just love the Mac's Widgets. Is that flight tracker a new one?


3 posted on 03/21/2007 9:23:22 AM PDT by NCC-1701 (PUT AN END TO ORGANIZED CRIME. ABOLISH THE IRS.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NCC-1701

Flight Tracker comes with Tiger. It was one of the first truly useful Widgets, especially for business travellers. Another was the one that helped you shop for the best local gas prices but that one was an add-on, not part of Tiger.


4 posted on 03/21/2007 9:47:16 AM PDT by George W. Bush
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: NCC-1701
I just love the Mac's Widgets. Is that flight tracker a new one?

Flight Tracker has been around for at least a year. I've used it to determine the status of a flight a friend was flying on... told me they were 22 minutes ahead of schedule so I arrived at the airport and saved him waiting time.

5 posted on 03/21/2007 9:49:49 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Swordmaker
That Vista desktop is gaudy. It's actually kind of ugly. And those Widgets occupy too much screen space.

I constantly have to clean up desktops already, just so people can find anything. Putting the Gadgets (Widgets) on the Desktop is very bad generally. Apple's Widget development is free and just uses Javascript/HTML/graphics and has a super-easy new developer tool, Dashcode. Microsoft requires that you buy the expensive Visual Studio.NET package just to create Vista Gadgets which may make them somewhat more powerful but it also means they're another security hole as bad as ActiveX or Office macros. And the implementation where you can put Gadgets in the Explorer Sidebar as well as the Desktop means they have inconsistent display options and restrictions.

Apple's Dashboard, as usual, just works. Vista has a lame copy of it with retarded features and pricey proprietary developer options.
6 posted on 03/21/2007 9:55:10 AM PDT by George W. Bush
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Swordmaker
1. Not-so-heavy metal

I've seen so many plastic-panelled laptops that have been knocked off desks and ended up with cracked cases or - worse - broken screens or - even worse - damaged hard drives, yet my faithful aluminium-clad PowerBook G4 took many such tumbles with only scratches and scrapes to show for it. All the time it remain entirely functional. Tell a lie, the optical drive slot got bent once, so I couldn't insert discs, but a quick push with a flat-bladed screwdriver sorted that one out. You can't do that with plastic. And the screws don't fall out either...

STURDY IS IT?

7 posted on 03/21/2007 10:03:07 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Swordmaker

I build my own PCs for < $400 with stuff I buy from Newegg, and upgrade at will. And then upgrade/swap parts at will. I am no fan of windows, but Mac to me looks just too "gay" :)


8 posted on 03/21/2007 10:05:16 AM PDT by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

Ignore phrase "and upgrade at will"; one too many.


9 posted on 03/21/2007 10:06:25 AM PDT by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

Love my Macbook. Still have PC's....for now:)


10 posted on 03/21/2007 10:31:25 AM PDT by TheStickman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball
I build my own PCs for < $400 with stuff I buy from Newegg, and upgrade at will.

And buying Vista Ultimate costs $200 for system builders, $400 retail.

By the time you include a legit OS and some of the basics, you get into the price range of a Mac. Of course, if you use liberated or open source software, you can keep the costs down. But you can easily spend another $150-$250 on antivirus/antimalware/firewall software over the 3-4 years you own the machine.

It's not the price of parts or the hardware, it's the total cost of ownership.

BTW, go try to price yourself a quad-core 2.66 Xeon machine. You'll find, if you work hard, you might save $100 over Apple's price for Mac Pro. And Mac Pro has AppleCare and a solid OS.

People should understand that Apple really isn't interested in becoming Dell or Gateway or HP. Apple is for people who want something that just works and who are willing to pay for it. I'm not sure why a premium price for a fully integrated experience is so bad for computers but is considered fine or even good when you have such choices on, say, purchasing cable/satellite TV/internet as a package. Or to choose premium vehicles with all the goodies on them. No one ever pretended that Cadillac was for the masses. Why hold Apple to that standard when they've never targeted the cheapest-is-best computer market?
11 posted on 03/21/2007 11:10:47 AM PDT by George W. Bush
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

I see you are using one of Rush's nicknames as your screen name. He uses a Mac, and probably doesn't think they are "gay" :)


12 posted on 03/21/2007 11:23:06 AM PDT by rom (Dateline lied, trucks died!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Swordmaker

I have been seriously considering buying a Mac this time around. I have heard it is much more user friendly for children to do homework and projects on. I also like that it is only one piece and not a mass of jumbled wires like my PC is. My neighbor has one and she loves it.


13 posted on 03/21/2007 11:30:37 AM PDT by USMCWife6869 (Godspeed Sand Sharks.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: George W. Bush
Why would I need vista ? XP Home that I have had for a number of years is good enough for me. I connect through a wireless router which means my PC is immune from attack. Anti virus ? Don't need 'em. I don't install random stuff or open random email. Still, McAfee is only $35 or thereabouts.

When you buy readymade new stuff you are paying a significant amount for labor. I never pay for labor if I can. eg I am going to change all 4 struts and the springs in my car next month with parts I bought online -- at home. The dealer gets zip.

14 posted on 03/21/2007 11:35:19 AM PDT by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: rom
I like the 184 Mac advertisement Obama uses to promote his site.
15 posted on 03/21/2007 11:38:43 AM PDT by Dante3
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: rom
I see you are using one of Rush's nicknames as your screen name

I am not using any nicknames. I *am* -- THE MAN . I am on the air right now so if you have something more to say, call 1 800 282 2882 and get in line. And if you like, you can tell Mr Snerdly to put you in front of the line. Tell him I said so.

16 posted on 03/21/2007 11:43:32 AM PDT by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: George W. Bush
But you can easily spend another $150-$250 on antivirus/antimalware/firewall software over the 3-4 years you own the machine.

Not for PCs. There are numerous very good (in some cases better than paid versions) and totally free for home use antivirus, antispyware, and firewall programs available for XP, and many of them are already Vista-compatible. Interestingly, a quick search indicates your statement is true for Macs; a brief search of Google and Download.com found very, very few such programs for Macs and all required paid registration. It looks like you're in for about $110 to get just one antivirus, antispyware, and firewall program, but I don't know whether they have to be renewed annually for updates. I also don't claim that there are no such free programs, just that the basic searches that I did (similar to what I would do if I were actually setting up a Mac) found none.

I'm not sure why a premium price for a fully integrated experience is so bad for computers

Time is an important part of the value equation. The problem with most pro-Mac articles is that they so grossly exaggerate the negative experiences everyone supposedly has on PCs that they lose all credibility. They also ignore the huge time costs of converting to and learning an entirely new operating system from the one that 95% of people have used for many years.

17 posted on 03/21/2007 11:50:22 AM PDT by Turbopilot (iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Swordmaker
Thanks for the
18 posted on 03/21/2007 12:01:07 PM PDT by vox_freedom (John 16:2 yea, the hour come, that whosoever killeth you, will think that he doth a service to God)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Turbopilot
I'm aware of the free security stuff for XP. I normally put Spybot S&D and AVG Antivirus on all the machines I work on. They're not perfect but they're plenty good. Generally, if people have problems after that, it's because they're doing dangerous things with IM or cruising pron/warez sites or opening macro-ed Office documents or doing stupid thing with email.

The reason why the Mac AV stuff is so pricey is that no one wants it.

You saw the same thing with Norton Antivirus for Palm. There never was a need for it to begin with.

They also ignore the huge time costs of converting to and learning an entirely new operating system from the one that 95% of people have used for many years.

I've yet to see anyone who has taken more than a month to become quite happy with the Mac experience. The learning curve is probably less than switching from current MS Office to Office 2007. Maybe half of the switchers actually find that their productivity goes way up because the Mac's developers focus on ease-of-use and staying out of your way. They don't wizard everything up the wazoo like MS, they make the common tasks very very easy. The integrated approach to documents (photos, music, video, etc.) works very well and requires almost no developer effort.
19 posted on 03/21/2007 12:08:51 PM PDT by George W. Bush
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: George W. Bush
I'm aware of the free security stuff for XP.

OK, as long as you (and others) are aware that your annual costs for PC security software for home use should be $0.

Generally, if people have problems after that, it's because they're doing dangerous things with IM or cruising pron/warez sites or opening macro-ed Office documents or doing stupid thing with email.

Absolutely correct. Even many/most of those problems are prevented by proper system setup and security software.

I've yet to see anyone who has taken more than a month to become quite happy with the Mac experience.

Even given the assumption that a month's lost productivity isn't an issue (how many people can say that?), are you really claiming that even an experienced user, one with years or decades of experience under Windows/DOS, can achieve a similar level of proficiency on a Mac in a month? I don't doubt it may be true for a newbie who might only have a month's worth of PC knowledge but, and no offense, such a claim for someone with more experience stretches the bounds of credibility a little.

20 posted on 03/21/2007 12:35:13 PM PDT by Turbopilot (iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-47 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson