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"Atkins Hormone" Discovered
Chemistry World ^ | 05 June 2007

Posted on 06/08/2007 8:07:29 PM PDT by Paradox

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Looks like they have found the key to the Atkins/lowcarb diets. I have seen many recent studies basically saying that lowcarb diets work. Science is finally catching up to something alot of people have known for years, if not decades, and that is that a low-carb diet can be a useful diet for some people.
1 posted on 06/08/2007 8:07:30 PM PDT by Paradox
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To: Paradox

Low-carbing worked for me, I lost 60 pounds in 9 months, but over the ensuing three years I put it all back on. I’m trying it again, I’m not sure how much weight I’ve lost in the past month but I’m down at least an inch on my waist.

I’ve never understood why people get so my-way-or-the-highway about diets, anyhow. There’s lots of different ways to lose weight, from just cutting portion size, to low-carb, to low-fat, to Nutrisystem-style plans that supply all the food. Find one that works FOR YOU and that you can stick with, and get some exercise. It’s easier said than done, that’s for sure!

}:-)4


2 posted on 06/08/2007 8:10:41 PM PDT by Moose4 (Just junk all across the horizon, a real highwayman's farewell...)
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To: Paradox

I’ve followed the scientific reports on low carbing very closely and am satisfied that it’s healthy and effective if you can stick to it.

But that’s the problem- it’s harder for me to stay on a low carb diet than it is a restricted calorie diet. It doesn’t matter how healthy the diet is if you can’t stick to it.


3 posted on 06/08/2007 8:18:09 PM PDT by MittFan08 (Anybody but McCain)
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To: Paradox

Atkins was grossly fat, and had significant heart disease when he died.

Perhaps moderation, and moderation in moderation is the key?

Just saying....


4 posted on 06/08/2007 8:41:41 PM PDT by donmeaker (You may not be interested in War but War is interested in you.)
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To: Paradox

mark


5 posted on 06/08/2007 9:35:56 PM PDT by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) 9/11: Many of us REFUSE to Forget!!)
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To: donmeaker

*sigh*

And the Barbra Streisand concerning Dr. Atkin’s death continues...


6 posted on 06/08/2007 9:37:20 PM PDT by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) 9/11: Many of us REFUSE to Forget!!)
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To: Paradox

Do the Inuit have a long, earthly lifespan? Their traditional diet is very high in protein and fat, and low in carbohydrates. That should give some clues as to whether an Atkin’s diet could increase earthly lifespans.


7 posted on 06/09/2007 3:01:31 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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So I’m wondering...you lose weight but die of heart disease from the high fat diet??
I don’t diet. I have a lifestyle eating program, in other words, this is the way i will live, not the way i lose weight.
And i’m losing, slowly.


8 posted on 06/09/2007 5:04:56 AM PDT by Shimmer128 (I see dumb people. They're everywhere. They don't even know they're dumb.)
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Actually, I don't do Atkins myself, but I do stay away from refined carbs as much as possible. All the research into lowcarb diets indicates that it does NOT cause any more heart disease than any other diet. What really matters is how much you eat, really. Low-carb diets do reduce blood sugar, insulin, and triglyceride levels, which in and of themselves cause a whole host of cardiovascular problems.

There really isn't much debate left, as others say, its your lifestyle that you need to change. Any significant weight loss will introduce metabolism changes which will have to be dealt with for life, by, basically, eating less and doing more, forever.

9 posted on 06/09/2007 5:33:44 AM PDT by Paradox (In the final analysis, its mostly a team sport, Principles cast off like yesterdays free agents.)
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To: Coleus; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
'low carb', high protein and high fat diets have proven their metabolic worth: scientists in the US have discovered a fat-burning role for a specific hormone stimulated by these eating regimes. The work has also raised the intriguing question of whether the Atkins diet could make you live longer.
I feel smug, having finally bought Dr Atkins' book for a buck apiece (like new, three copies, two editions) at the library.
10 posted on 06/09/2007 9:28:56 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated June 8, 2007.)
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I've always been skeptical of "fads" like this but the low-carb (I prefer to call it "normal-carb") lifestyle is what finally caused me to lose my excess weight and I've kept it off for three years now.

Eliminated processed foods with high fructose corn syrup and hydrogenated oils is half the battle. The foods left over are pretty much good foods to eat on this normal-carb lifestyle. Meats, fishes, eggs, nuts, cheese, olive oil, green vegetables, yogurt, red wine...

11 posted on 06/09/2007 9:34:45 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (I am 94 days away from outliving Marvin Gaye)
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To: SunkenCiv

I feel skeptical. Even if such a hormone as is in mice is found in humans, that doesn’t mean it acts the same way.

Not to say their work is of no value. It sure gives another researcher something to look at.

Intriguing question is it.


12 posted on 06/09/2007 10:56:14 AM PDT by donmeaker (You may not be interested in War but War is interested in you.)
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Lots of Fat, No Carbs--And the Right Hormone had two interesting links that I glanced over.

A primer on fat metabolism

Check out the effect of ketogenic diets on epilepsy.

Most folks know the simplest ketone, acetone, the main ingredient in nail polish remover.

13 posted on 06/09/2007 11:12:29 AM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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Atkins was grossly fat, and had significant heart disease when he died.

That group that put out the silly stats sure got a lot of milage from it. Go back and look the reality up.

14 posted on 06/09/2007 1:08:50 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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Oh. Just to be a little more specific, when Atkins was admitted to the hospital, he was about 6’ tall, about 195 lbs. and in his 70s. The group that put out the description you cite was a Vegan group.


15 posted on 06/09/2007 1:19:14 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: SunkenCiv; DixieOklahoma; reuben barruchstein; theprophetyellszambolamboromo; Alusch; ...

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16 posted on 06/09/2007 1:26:00 PM PDT by Coleus (Woe unto him that call evil good and good evil"-- Isaiah 5:20-21)
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To: Paradox

http://paleodiet.com/

http://www.westonaprice.org/traditional_diets/caveman_cuisine.html


17 posted on 06/09/2007 1:48:39 PM PDT by Coleus (Woe unto him that call evil good and good evil"-- Isaiah 5:20-21)
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Atkins was grossly fat, and had significant heart disease when he died. >>

Atkins was husky and not “grossly” overweight. Overweight yes, obese no. Most of his life he maintained his weight. And, btw, doctors are not immortal and do die.

And, who ever said that doctors practice what they preach. When I was a kid, my doctor had no smoking signs all over his office and when you entered his private office, what was he doing? Smoking. He told my mother, “you don’t see any No Smoking signs in here do you?”


18 posted on 06/09/2007 1:54:03 PM PDT by Coleus (Woe unto him that call evil good and good evil"-- Isaiah 5:20-21)
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I heard he died of a head injury nothing else was wrong with him.


19 posted on 06/09/2007 1:58:16 PM PDT by television is just wrong (Amnesty is when you allow them to return to their country of origin without prosecution.)
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To: lepton
"Oh. Just to be a little more specific, when Atkins was admitted to the hospital, he was about 6’ tall, about 195 lbs. and in his 70s. The group that put out the description you cite was a Vegan group.">

Atkins was tall and broad. He wasn't "fat" let alone "grossly obese." And, he did NOT have heart disease. He WAS, however, a practicing cardiologist, who discovered that his patients got WELL on a low-carbohydrate diet.

He died of head injuries sustained when he slipped on winter ice outside his New York offce. I'm very sorry to disappoint those vegans, but they will have to come up with a different dead horse to beat.

20 posted on 06/09/2007 2:14:00 PM PDT by redhead ("Ah works dirty, but Ah does a clean job..." --Nightmare Alice in Li'l Abner)
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