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Grammar Police Requested

Posted on 08/29/2007 5:50:29 PM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel

I was in a *boring* meeting, absentmindedly doodling on a scratch pad. I was pretty amazed after the meeting when I noticed that I doodled the following:


"I so enjoy discussions like these", she said wielding a bloody axe in her hand.

After the meeting, I glanced at my notes and have a serious question: is these appropriate in this context? I mean, should the correct grammar be: "I so enjoy discussions like this", she said wielding a bloody axe in her hand. I mean, isn't discussions a collective and therefore implies a singular?

Please set me straight. I am longing for instruction.


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1 posted on 08/29/2007 5:50:30 PM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel
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To: MrsEmmaPeel

I would say, “discussions like this,” because the speaker is relating other “discussions” to the ONE discussion currently taking place.

My daughter dreamed last night that she was practicing her three-point turns in the Methodist Church parking lot, with Pope Pius XII in the passenger seat.


2 posted on 08/29/2007 5:54:36 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Gravity! It's not just a good idea, it's the law!)
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To: MrsEmmaPeel
In this case, Mrs. Peel, I believe "discussions" is in the plural, and therefore "these" is appropriate.

Punctuation might be a fraction off, however, and I think the sentence might be read thus:

"I so enjoy discussions like these", she said, wielding a bloody axe in her hand.

3 posted on 08/29/2007 5:54:48 PM PDT by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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To: MrsEmmaPeel

Oh, and a comma between “said” and “wielding.”


4 posted on 08/29/2007 5:55:06 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Gravity! It's not just a good idea, it's the law!)
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To: Old Sarge

Commas inside the quotes.


5 posted on 08/29/2007 5:55:31 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Gravity! It's not just a good idea, it's the law!)
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To: MrsEmmaPeel

***”I so enjoy discussions like these”, she said wielding a bloody axe in her hand.***

Not a grammer police by any means, but I would correct it like this:

“I so enjoy discussions like this,” she said, wielding a bloody axe in her hand.

Note punctuation changes.


6 posted on 08/29/2007 5:56:10 PM PDT by irishtenor (There is no "I" in team, but there are two in IDIOT.)
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To: Tax-chick

Comma before quotations, also.


7 posted on 08/29/2007 5:57:11 PM PDT by irishtenor (There is no "I" in team, but there are two in IDIOT.)
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To: irishtenor

So true. That looks really funny, though.


8 posted on 08/29/2007 5:58:01 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Gravity! It's not just a good idea, it's the law!)
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To: MrsEmmaPeel

ax is preferred to axe (nobody said that one)


9 posted on 08/29/2007 5:59:32 PM PDT by firebrand
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Thank you both. So far it looks as though we have one vote for this and one vote for these. I'm not clearer in finding the proper solution.
10 posted on 08/29/2007 5:59:39 PM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel
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To: irishtenor; MrsEmmaPeel

Your version looks exactly right. The test on the object pronoun is to try it with the noun. “I so enjoy discussions like THIS discussion,” not, “I so enjoy discussions like THESE discussion.”


11 posted on 08/29/2007 5:59:52 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Gravity! It's not just a good idea, it's the law!)
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To: MrsEmmaPeel

How many items on the agenda. If there was more than one about which you had a negative attitude, “these” would be correct. If just one, “this” would be correct.


12 posted on 08/29/2007 6:00:39 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: irishtenor

I did not think to ask after the punctuation police. I sincerely thank you.


13 posted on 08/29/2007 6:01:00 PM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel
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To: MrsEmmaPeel

Could it be she does more than one? A repetitive axe-wielder?


14 posted on 08/29/2007 6:01:02 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: Tax-chick; irishtenor; MrsEmmaPeel
EXCELLENT catch, you two.

And I nearly forgot my manners, Mrs. Peel:


15 posted on 08/29/2007 6:01:04 PM PDT by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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To: MrsEmmaPeel
"I so enjoy discussions like these", she said wielding a bloody axe in her hand.

Maybe you should see a doctor about your possible(subconscious) homicidal tendency's, grammar be damned. ;)

16 posted on 08/29/2007 6:02:16 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Old Sarge

I’m out of wine. Is that the Minister of Magic on the right? Nice bowler.


17 posted on 08/29/2007 6:02:37 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Gravity! It's not just a good idea, it's the law!)
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To: firebrand
ax is preferred to axe (nobody said that one)

Depends who you axe.

(Somebody had to say it).

18 posted on 08/29/2007 6:02:38 PM PDT by dighton
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To: MrsEmmaPeel

Hmmmmmm...usually I’m on duty as the grammar/spelling police but that one is a little tricky. Nonetheless I’d say “discussions like this” since the discussion she is referring to is just one discussion.

Just my guess...there’s a reason I didn’t take AP English!


19 posted on 08/29/2007 6:03:01 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (From my fist to Harry Reid's face)
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To: Tax-chick

Having been castigated by my editor for so many years, something had to stick in my brain. Punctuation before quotations was one I finally learned.


20 posted on 08/29/2007 6:04:56 PM PDT by irishtenor (There is no "I" in team, but there are two in IDIOT.)
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