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"My books are about killing God!" An athiest's 'Narnia' knockoff
World Net Daily ^ | October 26, 2007 | Dr. Ted Baehr

Posted on 10/26/2007 8:54:15 AM PDT by SvdByFaith

On Dec. 7, 2007, the movie "The Golden Compass," based on the first book in the fantasy trilogy entitled "His Dark Materials" by atheist Philip Pullman will be released in theaters throughout the world. Pullman wrote his fantasy trilogy because he was so upset by the Christian evangelism of C.S. Lewis in his wonderful series of Christian tales entitled "The Chronicles Of Narnia." Pullman is an avowed atheist who has dedicated his life to undermining Christianity and the Church among young readers. The film's release is only another example of a culture spiraling away from faith, a culture into which we must step in and declare truth.

Pullman represents God as a decrepit and perverse angel in his novels, who captures the dead in a "prison camp" afterlife. As one fallen angel tells one of the novel's young heroes:

The Authority, God, the Creator, the Lord, Yahweh, El, Adonai, the King, the Father, the Almighty – those were all names he gave himself. He was never the creator. He was an angel like ourselves – the first angel, true, the most powerful, but he was formed of Dust as we are, and Dust is only a name for what happens when matter begins to understand itself. When the hero finally finds this "god," he is ultimately described as a "demented and powerless" creature that "could only weep and mumble in fear and pain and misery." The boy then kills this "god" by breaking him out of his crystal cell, thereby evaporating him. The only "god" in this universe is matter.

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A statement made by Phillip Pullman, the author of The Golden Compass, in an interview with The Sydney Morning Herald:

"I've been surprised by how little criticism I've got. Harry Potter's been taking all the flak. I'm a great fan of J.K. Rowling, but the people - mainly from America's Bible Belt - who complain that Harry Potter promotes Satanism or witchcraft obviously haven't got enough in their lives. Meanwhile, I've been flying under the radar, saying things that are far more subversive than anything poor old Harry has said. My books are about killing God."

1 posted on 10/26/2007 8:54:16 AM PDT by SvdByFaith
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To: SvdByFaith

Already tried and failed.


2 posted on 10/26/2007 8:55:37 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: SvdByFaith
Attacks on God are very overrated.
3 posted on 10/26/2007 8:57:28 AM PDT by elephantlips
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To: SvdByFaith
"Meanwhile, I've been flying under the radar, saying things that are far more subversive..."

Translation: "Listen to me, dammit!! I'm so desperate for attention, I'll say anything! Why aren't you people buying my books and going to my movies? Can't you see I've got a very important agenda here?!"

4 posted on 10/26/2007 8:58:13 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: SvdByFaith

Hope he has lots of SPF 1,000,000 he’ll need it, idiot.


5 posted on 10/26/2007 8:58:16 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: yldstrk

he is saying these things to get publicity
warn your friends and don’t talk to media....let it die at the boxoffice.
thats how Hollywood will learn it’s lesson.


6 posted on 10/26/2007 8:59:24 AM PDT by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: SvdByFaith

Yes they are. When the first one hits the screen, people will notice. He’s a much better writer than Rowling. Much, much better. And he somewhat hides his God-punch until the end of his first book. Rowling has her witchcraft proudly displayed from the beginning. But Pullman really doesn’t get to his outright destruction of anything Christian until the third book of his trilogy. I’m reading it now and it’s surprisingly a snoozer after the first two well-written ones. My guess is that he’s so intent on pulling his anti-Christian punches that he let the quality of his writing go.


7 posted on 10/26/2007 8:59:59 AM PDT by twigs
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To: Resolute Conservative

“Pullman! Into my office now!” - God


8 posted on 10/26/2007 9:00:03 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: yldstrk
I’ve never understood the point of view of an atheist. If, as they define themselves, are of the mind that God does not exist, then why all the vitriol? I don’t believe in Santa Claus but have never bothered to have a cruel word toward him. What good would it do?
9 posted on 10/26/2007 9:00:55 AM PDT by elephantlips
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To: yldstrk

LOL!


10 posted on 10/26/2007 9:01:24 AM PDT by stevio ((NRA))
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

These books have sold over 15,000,000 copies so far. He’s not worried.


11 posted on 10/26/2007 9:01:36 AM PDT by SvdByFaith ("Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire." - Jesus)
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To: SvdByFaith
another flop...


12 posted on 10/26/2007 9:01:48 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: SvdByFaith

12 posts without the requisite

God is Dead - Nietzsche
Nietzsche is Dead - God

Someone is falling down on the job


13 posted on 10/26/2007 9:06:54 AM PDT by dmz
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To: elephantlips

“If, as they define themselves, are of the mind that God does not exist, then why all the vitriol?”

Because they do believe. They just have a problem with Him. They try to hurt God and his followers by repeatedly and publicly denying his existence in varying ways. That’s not all atheists but I do believe that describes the most vocal ones.


14 posted on 10/26/2007 9:14:17 AM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: SvdByFaith
These books have sold over 15,000,000 copies so far. He’s not worried.

15 million? Now I'm worried.

15 posted on 10/26/2007 9:17:51 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: GOP_Party_Animal
15 million? Now I'm worried.

There is one born every minute. 250,000 minutes worth right there.

16 posted on 10/26/2007 9:25:35 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat; but they know what's best for us)
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To: SvdByFaith

tree, forest, noise.

What, he believes in angels and an afterlife, but not God? If not, he’s just writing fantasy. Most fantasy attacks God in some way or another. People love to fantasize about not having a God above them.


17 posted on 10/26/2007 9:27:50 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: dmz

And from Jurassic Park:

Jeff Goldblum:

“God creates dinosaur,

God kills dinosaur,

God creates man,

Man kills God,

Man creates dinosaur,

Dinosaur kills man...”

Laura Dern: “Woman inherits the earth”


18 posted on 10/26/2007 9:53:43 AM PDT by fishtank ("Patriotic Nationalism?" - YES!!!....."Globalist Multiculturalism?" - NO!!!,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,)
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To: SvdByFaith

He wants to sell more books and is p!ssed that the book series that is a best seller gets the criticism.

He’d be known around the world if his characters skull-F****ed Mohammed.


19 posted on 10/26/2007 9:55:41 AM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

The Left isn’t about convincing you to their worldview. They are about salting the ground of your own foundation.

They want you to lose your religion and morality. You become malable like clay.


20 posted on 10/26/2007 9:57:10 AM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: SvdByFaith
Nietsche: God is dead.

God: Nietsche is dead.

21 posted on 10/26/2007 9:58:17 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

Wonder how many copies were bought by activist librarians. The left would lose a lot of funding if library purchases were merit based and objective.


22 posted on 10/26/2007 9:58:23 AM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: LtKerst

Call him a bigot as Ann Coulter and Mel Gibson were branded.

He’s an atheist fundamentalist seeking to convert your kids to his no god god.


23 posted on 10/26/2007 10:00:10 AM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: SvdByFaith

bump


24 posted on 10/26/2007 10:00:13 AM PDT by VOA
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To: SvdByFaith
I read Golden Compass and loved it. I sensed a little anti-Christian bias, but never thought much of it since there's a lot of anti-Christian bias about nowadays.

I then read Subtle Knife. Oh my...did I get blasted with some anti-Christian garbage. But, I suffered through it to the end. The book left a terrible taste in my mouth.

I discussed this on Free Republic and heard from various posters that the third book, Amber Spyglass, was FAR worse. I chose not to even attempt it as I don't need to read nor support that kind of nonsense.

It is very obvious that Pullman intentionally wrote a trilogy of young adult novels specifically designed to pull the reader in and increasingly work to pry the reader away from his/her Christian beliefs. The payoff in the final novel is that God revealed to be a weak creature and he can be killed.

After reading the first novel, I had few reservations about recommending it for my children to read. But, having read the second one and learned of the contents of the third, I threw the books away and I've warned several fellow Christians about the trilogy and its nefarious intent.

I'm concerned that while the upcoming major movie of the first novel will strip a lot of the anti-Christian content out, that it will still draw adults and children in to read the trilogy. I know that the trailers for the first film are what caused me to seek out the trilogy and start reading in the first place.

25 posted on 10/26/2007 10:06:35 AM PDT by Spiff (<------ Mitt Romney Supporter (Don't tase me, bro!) Go Mitt! www.mittromney.com)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

He says he’s an athiest, but believes in angels. Satan was an angel (and obviously has him doing his bidding). Pullman recreated the fall in his last book, but the main characters rejoiced in their sexual awakening and were delivered from God(killed God)and believed the lie.

Wouldn’t that make him a Satanist?


26 posted on 10/26/2007 10:08:07 AM PDT by SvdByFaith ("Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire." - Jesus)
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To: SvdByFaith

I’ll give Pullman and Co. credit for endurance.

For keeping up the struggle for more than forty years of modern history:

http://www.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,19660408,00.html


27 posted on 10/26/2007 10:08:28 AM PDT by VOA
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To: Spiff
I’m praying for better discernment as a parent. The trailer didn’t phase me and it looked really great. That’s quite scary now that I know the rest of the story. When I watched the trailer again, I saw many red flags and was shocked that they passed me by the first time around.

The father of deception is making headway on this one. I can’t believe I was blinded to it at first.

28 posted on 10/26/2007 10:25:08 AM PDT by SvdByFaith ("Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire." - Jesus)
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To: SvdByFaith

A lot of atheists have an ax to grind. (Is it ax or axe?).


29 posted on 10/26/2007 10:38:17 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Spiff

I’ve read the first five pages of the Golden Compass.

I knew it was Satanic as soon as I read the FIRST sentence!!!

It talks about “Lyra and her daemon”!!!!!!!

How much more anti-Christian can you get than that???


30 posted on 10/26/2007 10:39:23 AM PDT by fishtank ("Patriotic Nationalism?" - YES!!!....."Globalist Multiculturalism?" - NO!!!,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

More like “Ismail Ax”.....


31 posted on 10/26/2007 10:39:59 AM PDT by fishtank ("Patriotic Nationalism?" - YES!!!....."Globalist Multiculturalism?" - NO!!!,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Grinding axes sells books. And the books have been selling well, as more people lose faith.

Most atheists don’t waste their time proselytizing (for lack of a better word) - they have more important things to do with their time.


32 posted on 10/26/2007 10:50:14 AM PDT by KingofZion
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To: SvdByFaith
The Authority, God, the Creator, the Lord, Yahweh, El, Adonai, the King, the Father, the Almighty – those were all names he gave himself. He was never the creator. He was an angel like ourselves – the first angel, true, the most powerful..

from this description, i can add a few more names that he won't give himself, but others have aptly bestowed upon him. father of lies. prince of darkness. lucifer. first angel: check. most powerful: check. lying sack of poo: check.
from other descriptions, sounds like the guy is well describing satan. the prison camp afterlife, fallen angel, perverse.. all very appropriate.
33 posted on 10/26/2007 10:54:40 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (Only two products have come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. Coincidence? i think not.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Chuckling. See #13.

But you gotta at least spell Nietzsche correctly if you’re gonna go there.


34 posted on 10/26/2007 11:15:06 AM PDT by dmz
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To: absolootezer0
The Authority, God, the Creator, the Lord, Yahweh, El, Adonai, the King, the Father, the Almighty – those were all names he gave himself. He was never the creator. He was an angel like ourselves – the first angel, true, the most powerful.

As an atheist rant this is a straw man argument.

If such a description were true, he wouldn't be God.

35 posted on 10/27/2007 1:29:03 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: SvdByFaith

bump


36 posted on 10/27/2007 1:29:48 PM PDT by VOA
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To: SvdByFaith
FILM SELLS ATHEISM TO KIDS; MAJOR PROTEST LAUNCHED

http://catholicleague.org/catalyst.php?year=2007&month=October&read=2306
http://tinyurl.com/2tdhko

Tuesday October 30, 2007

The Catholic League is calling for a boycott of "The Golden Compass"; the movie opens December 7. It is based on the first book of a trilogy titled, His Dark Materials.

The author of this children's fantasy is Philip Pullman, a noted English atheist. It is his objective to bash Catholicism and promote atheism. To kids. "The Golden Compass" is a film version of the book by that name, and it is being toned down so that Catholics, as well as Protestants, are not enraged.

The second book of the trilogy, The Subtle Knife, is more overt in its hatred of Catholicism than the first book, and the third entry, The Amber Spyglass, is even more blatant. Because "The Golden Compass" is based on the least offensive of the three books, and because it is being further watered down for the big screen, some might wonder why a boycott is warranted.

The Catholic League wants Christians to boycott this movie precisely because it knows that the film is bait for the books: unsuspecting parents who take their children to see the movie may be impelled to buy the three books as a Christmas present. And no parent who wants to bring their children up in the faith will want any part of these books.

We are launching a major educational campaign designed to alert the public to Pullman's game plan. To that end, we have prepared a booklet, "The Golden Compass: Agenda Unmasked." It contains snippets of what reviewers have said about the film and the books, as well as revealing comments made by Pullman himself; it also contains a synopsis of the trilogy. In short, the booklet is not what we are saying about Pullman's work—it is what he and others have said about it.

Pullman represents the new face of atheism: it is aggressive, dogmatic and unrelenting. It is also fueled by hate—by a crusading hatred of all religions, but most especially of ours. His side is counting on our side to lie down and die. He may have experienced little resistance in England, but it's a different story here.

The reason we are starting our protest early is because it takes time to get the word out, and besides, the media love it when we give them something to chew on. The booklet is being mailed to thousands of influential persons, including film critics and Christian leaders.

While Roman Catholicism is the evil force in Pullman's writings, his real goal is to put a positive face on atheism, getting children to buy his message. Thus, we expect more than Catholics will join our protest.

37 posted on 10/30/2007 10:39:05 AM PDT by fgoodwin (Fundamentalist, right-wing nut and proud father of a Star Scout!)
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To: SvdByFaith; drstevej; OrthodoxPresbyterian; CCWoody; Wrigley; Gamecock; Jean Chauvin; jboot; ...
A statement made by Phillip Pullman, the author of The Golden Compass, in an interview with The Sydney Morning Herald:

"I've been surprised by how little criticism I've got. Harry Potter's been taking all the flak. I'm a great fan of J.K. Rowling, but the people - mainly from America's Bible Belt - who complain that Harry Potter promotes Satanism or witchcraft obviously haven't got enough in their lives. Meanwhile, I've been flying under the radar, saying things that are far more subversive than anything poor old Harry has said. My books are about killing God."

Forewarned is forearmed, parents.

Trailers for this garbage began last year. The Christmas push will be on us soon, and this moronic drivel will be in front of our children's faces all month.

Tell your friends and families their time and effort would be better spent putting $20 in a Salvation Army bucket and count yourselves fortunate to have missed this perversity.

38 posted on 11/12/2007 4:36:13 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Thanks for the ping!


39 posted on 11/12/2007 9:34:49 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; SvdByFaith; drstevej; OrthodoxPresbyterian; CCWoody; Wrigley; Gamecock; ...
My books are about killing God.

Had he read the last chapter he would have found out God wins.

40 posted on 11/13/2007 4:09:50 AM PST by HarleyD (97% of all statistics are made up.)
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To: L98Fiero; elephantlips
Because they do believe. They just have a problem with Him. They try to hurt God and his followers by repeatedly and publicly denying his existence in varying ways. That’s not all atheists but I do believe that describes the most vocal ones.

Indeed. Real atheists don't go around wasting their breath on a God they think is imaginary, but there are a lot of bitter God-haters out there who are pretending to be atheists.

Similarly, I don't doubt there are real homosexuals out there who merely have an attraction toward people of the same gender. But those kinds of people don't parade down the in drag to celebrate whichever bodily orifice they like to use -- that behavior is limited to people who want to be 'in your face' about flaunting common moral conventions, or also fall among the God-haters above.

41 posted on 11/13/2007 4:27:28 AM PST by Sloth (Democrats and GOPers are to government what Jeffrey Dahmer and Michael Jackson are to babysitting)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
My M-I-L read these books a few yrs ago and wanted to give them to my son when she had finished. I respectfully declined her offer.

CC&E

42 posted on 11/13/2007 5:00:02 AM PST by Calm_Cool_and_Elected (So many books, so little time!)
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To: HarleyD
LOLOL!

I've been thinking about having a sweatshirt made saying:

"God is dead" - Nietzsche

"Nietzsche is dead" - God


43 posted on 11/13/2007 7:00:12 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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