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School Recess Gets Gentler, and the Adults Are Dismayed
New York Times ^ | December 14, 2007 | ALISON LEIGH COWAN

Posted on 12/15/2007 10:38:08 PM PST by fgoodwin

Children at Oakdale School here in southeastern Connecticut returned this fall to learn that their traditional recess had gone the way of the peanut butter sandwich and the Gumby lunchbox.

No longer could they let off youthful energy — pent up from hours of long division — by cavorting outside for 22 minutes of unstructured play, or perhaps a vigorous game of tag or dodgeball. Such games had been virtually banned by the principal, Mark S. Johnson, along with kickball, soccer and other “body-banging” activities, as he put it, where knees — and feelings — might get bruised.

Instead, children are encouraged to jump rope, play with Hula Hoops or gently fling a Frisbee. Balls are practically controlled substances, parceled out under close supervision by playground monitors.

The traditional recess, a rite of grade school, is endangered not only in Oakdale School here in Montville, a town of 18,500. From Cheyenne, Wyo., to Wyckoff, N.J., recess — long seen as a way for children to develop social competence, recharge after long lessons, and resist obesity — is being rethought and pared down.

Such changes worry educators like Joe Frost, professor emeritus of education at the University of Texas, who has spent 30 years researching children’s play. He defended the traditional recess as a way to give children the freedom to make their own choices and said that it was “terrible, ill-advised and damaging” to inject so much structure and oversight.

“Children need to engage in games such as this in order to develop social skills, to learn to handle themselves, to avoid obesity, and to get the activities they need, and these are traditional games, going on for centuries,” Dr. Frost said. “It’s just difficult to imagine how a person in education could come up with such a bad idea.”

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TOPICS: Education; Health/Medicine; Outdoors; Society
KEYWORDS: childhood; children; education; kids; play; playground; playtime; recess; riskaversion; school

1 posted on 12/15/2007 10:38:09 PM PST by fgoodwin
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To: martin_fierro; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...

iPod ping.


2 posted on 12/15/2007 10:48:50 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Monday, December 10, 2007____________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: fgoodwin
No longer could they let off youthful energy — pent up from hours of long division — by cavorting outside for 22 minutes of unstructured play, or perhaps a vigorous game of tag or dodgeball. Such games had been virtually banned by the principal, Mark S. Johnson, along with kickball, soccer and other “body-banging” activities, as he put it, where knees — and feelings — might get bruised.

What if, like American colonists oppressed by King George, the kids banded together and engaged in some body-banging activities, including principal Mark S. Johnson in their play? Obviously he was one of those kids always left until last to be chosen for a team.
3 posted on 12/15/2007 10:53:45 PM PST by aruanan
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To: fgoodwin; nutmeg; raybbr; Puppage; Born Conservative

bump & a ping to another dumb idea in school


4 posted on 12/15/2007 10:55:11 PM PST by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: fgoodwin
it was “terrible, ill-advised and damaging” to inject so much structure and oversight.

But this is what Liberals do. They suppress or control "harmful" activities - always for the "good" of the people whose freedom is being destroyed.

They punish (or try to punish) smoking, driving big cars, eating fast foods, saying bad words, hugging a child or spanking or yelling at one, "staring" (defined as looking in the wrong direction for 9 seconds) and legions of other things that used to be perfectly normal and a matter of individual choice.

There's an Isaac Asimov story. I think it's called "With Folded Hands" about what happens in a world where people are "protected" from everything bad. It should be required reading.

5 posted on 12/15/2007 11:21:34 PM PST by irv
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To: fgoodwin
“It’s just difficult to imagine how a person in education could come up with such a bad idea.”

No, it's not.

6 posted on 12/16/2007 2:12:19 AM PST by Huntress (The essence of war is violence. Moderation in war is imbecility.--Admiral Sir John Arbuthnot Fisher)
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To: fgoodwin

game of tag or dodgeball. Such games had been virtually banned by the principal, Mark S. Johnson, along with kickball, soccer and other “body-banging” activities, as he put it, where knees — and feelings — might get bruised.

What the heck? This is going way overboard, this stuff is just as educational as the classroom.


7 posted on 12/16/2007 2:24:08 AM PST by garylmoore (Faith is the assurance of things unseen.)
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To: irv

>>There’s an Isaac Asimov story. I think it’s called “With Folded Hands” about what happens in a world where people are “protected” from everything bad. It should be required reading.<<

Not by Asimov. By Jack Williamson, published in 1947. A mssterpiece.


8 posted on 12/16/2007 2:41:02 AM PST by alexander_busek
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To: fgoodwin
NOOOOOOO!!!111 Not DODGEBALLLLLLLLL!!!!11 Dodgeball was my favorite game in school. 8-(


9 posted on 12/16/2007 2:46:52 AM PST by Daffynition (The quieter you become, the more you are able to hear.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Maybe if they spent less time teaching about self-esteem and how to put on a condom, there’d be more time for recess. :)


10 posted on 12/16/2007 5:10:50 AM PST by Berosus ("The candidates that can't face Fox News can't face Al Qaeda."--Roger Ailes)
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To: fgoodwin

My Goodness, this country is sick.


11 posted on 12/16/2007 5:12:24 AM PST by exnavy (God means love, not hate.)
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To: fgoodwin
No longer could they let off youthful energy — pent up from hours of long division — by cavorting outside

If this writer believes students are spending hours in school doing long division, she hasn't been in a school in the last 20 years.

12 posted on 12/16/2007 5:38:27 AM PST by Tax-chick (Every committee wants to take over the world.)
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To: fgoodwin

“...as he put it, where knees — and feelings — might get bruised.”

What a Pussy. I wonder what size skirt this clown wears.


13 posted on 12/16/2007 8:44:44 AM PST by mowowie
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To: alexander_busek

No, really, it’s Asimov. It was one of the robot stories and was referred to in later robot stories as the reason why the robots went underground.


14 posted on 12/16/2007 8:47:53 AM PST by irv
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To: Huntress
Mrs. Lurkin advises she and her friends would do something called a “Death Drop” on the bars during recess.

I guess even suggesting that today would garner some poor kid a suspension.

15 posted on 12/16/2007 9:06:14 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: DaveLoneRanger; 2Jedismom; aberaussie; Aggie Mama; agrace; Antoninus; arbooz; bboop; bill1952; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. If you want on/off this list, please freepmail me. The main Homeschool Ping List by DaveLoneRanger handles the homeschool-specific articles. This is becoming a fairly high volume list.

Just when you think you've heard it all....

This sounds like the book *The Giver*

16 posted on 12/16/2007 10:06:51 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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Public Education Ping

This list is for articles relating to public education. mcvey and republican professor have asked me to take over the list. If you want on or off this ping list, please FReepmail me.
17 posted on 12/16/2007 10:07:34 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: fgoodwin

22 minutes?

22 minutes!

We got only 15. I want a do-over!!


18 posted on 12/16/2007 10:09:11 AM PST by unspun (God save us from egos -- especially our own.)
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To: irv

>>No, really, it’s Asimov. It was one of the robot stories and was referred to in later robot stories as the reason why the robots went underground.<<

No, really, it was written by Jack Williamson. First published in 1947. I googled it right after I saw your first posting. Try googling it yourself (before correcting others).

“You will be happy, sir,” the mechanical promised him cheerfully. “We have learned how to make all men happy, under the Prime Directive. Our service is perfect, at last. Even Mr. Sledge is very happy now.”
—”With Folded Hands,” by Jack Williamson, 1947


19 posted on 12/16/2007 10:36:57 AM PST by alexander_busek
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To: fgoodwin

I’ll take “What Happens When Pansies and Twinks Run Our Schools for $100 Alex”.


20 posted on 12/16/2007 10:46:13 AM PST by festus (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: exnavy

It’s not the country; it’s liberalism and all of its twisted manifestations that is truly sick.


21 posted on 12/16/2007 10:47:24 AM PST by RightOnline
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To: irv
Is this it?

With Folded Hands", Rating: Five Planets. by Jack Williamson. pub. 1947. collected in The Science Fiction Hall of Fame, Vol. IIA ... http://www.nvcc.edu/home/ataormina/scifi/works/stories/withfolded.htm

22 posted on 12/16/2007 10:58:53 AM PST by Turret Gunner A20 (Tolerating intolerance is not a "value," it's self-destructive stupidity.)
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To: unspun

nd that included going out and back in.


23 posted on 12/16/2007 11:01:33 AM PST by Turret Gunner A20 (Tolerating intolerance is not a "value," it's self-destructive stupidity.)
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To: fgoodwin; Peanut Gallery

So, I’m guessing Smear The Queer is right out?


24 posted on 12/16/2007 11:01:51 AM PST by Professional Engineer (www.pinupsforvets.com)
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To: irv

Written by Jack Willimson, great read.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/With_Folded_Hands


25 posted on 12/16/2007 11:08:55 AM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: brityank

No. That’s not even close to the story I was thinking about. I guess I’ll have to go look up what the title really was.


26 posted on 12/16/2007 11:19:35 AM PST by irv
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To: brityank

There’s another story which my stepson read for English which the world was made safer for people. They actually flattened the hills so kids wouldn’t fall down and get hurt. The kids were taken from their parents and raised collectively. I wish I could remember the name of it, but it was sounding very much like the type of world Hillary and Al Gore dream of.


27 posted on 12/16/2007 11:20:47 AM PST by swatbuznik
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To: fgoodwin

Public schools working to create generations of ignorant, but arrogant sissies...


28 posted on 12/16/2007 12:16:00 PM PST by RavenATB
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To: mowowie
What a Pussy. I wonder what size skirt this clown wears.

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I know you’re joking but, there is truth to what you posted.

Gays are invading the government school K-12 system. It’s the fresh meat, you see. Also, there is the “old boy gay network”. Gays hire other gays.

Coming soon to a government school near you, if it hasn’t already.

29 posted on 12/16/2007 1:24:09 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: RightOnline
It’s not the country; it’s liberalism and all of its twisted manifestations that is truly sick. ( Right On Line)
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Let’s start calling it what it really is: Marxism!

Marxism is our nation’s most serious threat. It isn’t islamofascism. Schools are the Marxists’ most important weapon. They will win if they can win the hearts and minds of the next generation of voters.

In our government schools Marxists and their Useful Idiots are working hard to destroy freedom, and the nation’s citizens are oblivious.

They’re like termites. So....why aren’t Rush and Sean hammering on this every day?

Scratch a liberal and under his thin skin is a socialist. Dig a little deeper and you will soon find the Marxist nuclear fuel rod that drives everything he says and does.

30 posted on 12/16/2007 1:30:27 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: RavenATB

Public schools working to create generations of ignorant, but arrogant sissies...

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Marxist indoctrinators in government schools are working hard to create generations of easy to lead Useful Idiots ( as Lenin would call them).


31 posted on 12/16/2007 1:32:55 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: unspun

“I want a do-over!!”

22 minutes of being bored to death rather than have tons of fun for 15?


32 posted on 12/16/2007 3:56:45 PM PST by jwh_Denver (No more SOUTHERN GOVERNORS for President. PERIOD)
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To: Berosus

If the self-esteem is low enough, putting on a condom becomes a superfluous skill. ;’)


33 posted on 12/17/2007 11:25:07 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Monday, December 10, 2007____________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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