Illinois Hispanics meet with Juan McCain in Downtown Chicago (Vanity)

Self | June 19, 2008 | Rosanna Pulido

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

A number of years ago, McCain supported a bill that would have effectively banned gun shows.

[c-b 1]

Lord help us all! I was MORE interested in John Mc Cain reaching out to me as a CONSERVATIVE! I feel like I have been kicked to the curb.

Welcome to the club. John McCain parachutes in here, long enough to be able to tell everyone he is from a border state, then catches the next flight out. He never hesitates to tell those of us who live on the border that we don't know what we're talking about, when it comes to border issues.

[Conservatish]

They (i.e. supply) are coming here for jobs (i.e. demand). It is a pure and simple rule of economics: Stop the demand, and you will stop the supply. If only it were that simple, meandog. In reality, it's much more sinister than that. In Indianapolis, as recently as 6 years ago, there were American drywallers, roofers, painters, etc. working here. That is not the case now. A walk through construction sites of new homes and businesses will leave you wondering when you left America and landed in a foreign land. Americans are being DISPLACED from their jobs. It isn't that these are jobs "Americans won't do" as they were doing them until very recently! A brother who owns a successful painting company is now facing hard times because his competitors (many of them his friends) started using illegal alien laborers over the last three years. My brother refuses to do this and he can't bid jobs nearly as cheaply as they can, so his contracts - contracts he has had for 10 years and more - are being given to others. American workers who obey the law are being punished and made to face unfair competition simply BECAUSE they follow the law. McCain wants to secure the borders; he has stated that time and again (which is different than anything you'll ever hear from the Democrats) Both Dems and Reps have stated that they want to "secure the borders," but neither have any intention of doing so, IMO, or if they do, they intend to do it ONLY AFTER granting amnesty to the 30 million illegals already here (and their extended families, as well) in the hopes that they can sway more voters over to their side (not America's side, just THEIR side) in the future. But what you don't hear is anyone (GOP or Dems) ACTUALLY (though they do talk about it) going after the "demanders," and therefore the root of the drive for amnesty, BECAUSE they are the money conduits (Walmart, Kmart, Swift, Armor, Del Monte, Green Giant, General Mills, Golden Corral, Holiday Inn, Ramada Inn, small business owners and farmers, unions and corporations, ad infinitum that supply campaigns and keep politicians in power). When politicians do discuss taking on the "demanders," as many have, they are faced with unbelievable opposition and demonization from fellow Republicans (RINOs, like McCain), Dems, Chambers of Commerce, trade associations, ethnocentric groups like LaRaza, Maldef, etc. They are excoriated and villified publicly, all with the help, most usually, of an unmerciful, pro-amnesty news media.

[the anti-liberal]

Very well stated - thank you!

[Conservatish]

Kid, what do you expect? Are we supposed to love Mexico even though they encourage their own citizens to venture el norte illegally so they don’t have to take care of them or address the corruption that exists there; the country that calls us xenophobic, racist, bigots merely because we want our laws obeyed and enforced; the country that is constantly meddling in US politics via their Mexican consuls?

Why did McCain have to acknowledge Hispanic men and women have served and died for our country? Everyone knows that, yet he felt it important to point it out in this closed door meeting. Why? Because he’s pandering to the RACIAL BIASES he expected to exist in that room, and he wasn’t disappointed. Everyone should find that shameful, IMO. AMERICAN men and women have served and died for this country and they should all be honored at all times without compartmentalizing their honorable deeds to pat one race or ethnicity on the back to the exclusion of all others. It’s quite sickening if you ask me.

[Conservatish]

Thank you, anti-liberal! My condolences for your kitty.

[the anti-liberal]

"My condolences for your kitty."

Thanks, but it was a while back and a second has passed since. I still have one left and she's got a lot of life left in her. :^)

I haven't taken the time to work on that profile page since I first set it up, so thanks also for reminding me...

[lccat]

I don’t believe the issue is Hispanics, the problem is ILLEGALS, ILLEGAL EMPLOYERS, the CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, and other SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS. Since the ILLEGALS’ infamous L.A. march displaying their foreign flags demanding their rights United States citizens are distrustful of any organized protest demanding anything. The situation will remain this way until our National Borders are secured and our Immigration Laws are Enforced. Our Elitist Politicians at the demand of their Elitist Political Contributors, Chamber of Commerce, and other Special Interest Groups will not allow the problem to be solved for fear of losing a dollar.

Just follow the money my friend. The “political contributors” will get their “cheap labor” and not have to furnish any “benefits” because all the “benefits” for the ILLEGALS will be furnished by the taxpayers enforced and implemented by “our politicians” and their “men”(see Johnny Satan)!!

The point is not if they are “good or hardworking people”, the point being they are here illegally! They do drive down our wages and take from the United States treasury for the benefit of the very few(ILLEGAL EMPLOYERS see ROBERT CAMP) who privatize the profits for themselves at the expense of the vast majority.

[HappyinAZ]

OH well...as I’ve said many times....McCain is not perfect...but it’s an election...2 guys running...and ones a communist. Kind of simplifies the whole thing doesn’t it?

[Syncro]

Thanks for the link

I just ran across your thread from Malkin’s site

[Thunder90]

What’s McCain doing? Most Hispanics are going to vote for the Obamanation, not McCain.

[the anti-liberal]

Actually, this is chicagolady's thread - the link is my thread.

But in any case - you're welcome!

:^)

[Syncro]

Yea I know

I was thanking you for the link on this thread to your thread from Michelle's site

Double :>) :>)

: > )

[the anti-liberal]

When I scrolled down and found your post from the other thread (my thread) I then understood.

:^D

[Syncro]

Well, this thread can use the bumps!

LOL

Good news about chicagolady being on TV Mon morning!

[Conservatish]

I couldn’t agree with you more, lccat, the problem is not Hispanics - it’s illegal aliens who come from all around the world, unscrupulous employers, a government that condones law-breaking because those who can give them large contributions can make an extra buck, and special interest groups whose very existence depend on keeping a large “victimized” community to coddle and keep angry.

I completely agree with your post in its entirety.

Having said all of that and pointing out that the problem is NOT Hispanics, I must also point out that anyone who speaks out against illegal immigration is IMMEDIATELY accused of being racist against “brown-skinned Hispanics/Latinos” by....not illegal alien Chinese, Russians, Africans, Korean, etc.....but by Hispanics/Latinos. It isn’t that I am “against” Hispanics, it’s that they are always the ones to get in my face, call me a racist simply because I want our laws enforced and our borders closed, while they demand that our laws continue to be ignored for the sake of THEIR own kind. Racism is definitely a part of this issue - it just happens to exist in those groups, the most vocal of which are Hispanic/Latino, who are calling everyone else a racist.

[meandog]

McCain ... betrayed the Republican Party for failing to support both Frist and Bush in orchestrating the Gang of Fourteen.

Support Bush? The screwball "Mission Accomplished" idiot that is REALLY the traitor destroying the Republican party because he (as the case with his "Read My Lips" old man before him who somehow was able to pull a stalemate out of overwelming victory) is the nincompoop that cannot figure out how to win a war against a third-rate country. I wouldn't support Bush even if his Crawford ranch was being taken over by Mexican MS-13 youth gangs and he found himself having to pay extortion money just to live in one of the barns.

[freekitty]

That’s because you have been kicked to the curb.