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Dinosaurs ran out of stamina in the evolutionary race
The Scotsman ^ | Wednesday, 23rd July 2008

Posted on 07/23/2008 4:06:14 PM PDT by Soliton

DINOSAURS were running out of evolutionary steam during their last 50 million years on Earth, scientists have learned. The reptiles were left behind in the "Cretaceous Terrestrial Revolution", 100 million years ago, that saw the massive proliferation of vegetation and many animals.

While flowering plants, lizards, snakes, birds and mammals all evolved swiftly, dinosaurs plodded behind. A short time later, they were extinct.

Researchers made the discovery after using computer programs to produce a "super-tree" of dinosaur lineages. The results showed the most likely pattern of evolution for 440 of the 600 known species of dinosaur.

The findings, published in the journal Proceedings of the Royal Society B, reveal dinosaurs had a burst of diversification in the first 50 million years of their reign. Then their rate of evolution slowed down and scientists believe they failed to take advantage of the new plant and animal food sources.


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: bunchofcoprolites; chicxulub; darwinsapologists; darwinworshippers; dinosaurs; evolution; spiritofpiltdown
I know how the felt.
1 posted on 07/23/2008 4:06:14 PM PDT by Soliton
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To: Soliton; Gondring
I know how the felt.

LOL

Me Too!!!!

Dinosaurs ran out of stamina Ping!

2 posted on 07/23/2008 4:12:13 PM PDT by jan in Colorado (For Barack Hussein Obama TRUTH FILE see my homepage!)
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To: Soliton

I have no problem taking care of new food sources.


3 posted on 07/23/2008 4:24:15 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: Soliton
Impossible! Nat. Geo. says a big asteroid took’em down or maybe it was super sized volcanoes and climate change or something, anything.
4 posted on 07/23/2008 4:28:35 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change
You do realize that those are not mutually exclusive, right? Lack of diversity makes a population vulnerable to stressors that might normally be survivable.

Conversely, the vulnerability of the population can lead to greater evolutionary diversity.

A Real Live Case of a Darwin Fish?

5 posted on 07/23/2008 4:41:57 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: jan in Colorado

LOL! Same here!
Thanks for the ping!


6 posted on 07/23/2008 4:42:20 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Soliton
Dinosaurs ran out of stamina in the evolutionary race

7 posted on 07/23/2008 4:54:36 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (Just say NObama!)
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To: Gondring
And someone might devise a computer program that shows constipation reduced the dinosaur’s ability to react to stress caused by dehydration and it would be just as plausible. The proof would be the small amount of fossilized dung in proportion to the fossilized bones found.
Dinosaurs existed in the real world, not in computer programs and in the real world we don't know why they died out.
8 posted on 07/23/2008 5:04:35 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change
Dinosaurs existed in the real world, not in computer programs and in the real world we don't know why they died out.

"And even if there'd been iridium at the scene, O.J. was innocent!"


Of course we don't know all the details...isn't it great to have science, where we can construct hypotheses to test, or make observations, synthesize theories...?

9 posted on 07/23/2008 5:16:38 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: count-your-change
"Dinosaurs existed in the real world, not in computer programs and in the real world we don't know why they died out."

I guess we're going to have to free a lot of the murderers then. Since in a lot of cases noone directly witnesses a murder except the victim and the murderer, we can never be absolutely certain how the person died.

And I guess that trying to draw plausible conclusion from an imperfect data set is completely uncalled for. We need to wait until we have ALL the data before we do anything.

10 posted on 07/23/2008 5:16:49 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Gondring

“A Real Live Case of a Darwin Fish?”
This McNuggets news bit asks a question similar to asking why so few 7 ft. and 4 ft. tall men are in the Marines.


11 posted on 07/23/2008 5:19:05 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Excellent straw man but still.....
In the same way climate change computer programs loaded with tons of information may produce plausible but wholly wrong scenarios. Same thing with trying to model dinosaur behavior long after the fact. But they’re plausible until one looks at reality. Like weather and climate, dinosaurs don’t exist in computers. gigo


12 posted on 07/23/2008 5:53:22 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Gondring

“Of course we don’t know all the details...isn’t it great to have science, where we can construct hypotheses to test, or make observations, synthesize theories...?”
Useful all but we don’t have many of the details or even the most important ones, so let’s be careful not to confuse the theory, the hypothetical, etc. with demonstrable fact.

“iridium...O.J...”? Not even close to clever!


13 posted on 07/23/2008 6:10:16 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change

“Dinosaurs existed in the real world, not in computer programs and in the real world we don’t know why they died out.”

We don’t know how they died out? Having implicit faith in the veracity of the Scriptures, my money is on the Flood of Noah as the turning point for many species. The Scriptures give us the ages of some of the pre-flood men. For instance, Methuselah, who was Noah’s grandfather lived a long time. Gen 5:27 And all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred sixty and nine years: and he died. Noah himself lived 900+ years; 300+ after leaving the Ark.

But human lifespans dropped off precipitously after the Flood. For instance, the Patriarch Abraham only lived 175 years, compared with Noah and others from the pre-flood era’s 800 to 900 plus years. Gen 25:7 And these are the days of the years of Abraham’s life which he lived, a hundred threescore and fifteen years.

The climate on planet earth was completely different when they came OFF the Ark from how it was when they went aboard the Ark. I believe it was the climatic change that caused their demise.


14 posted on 07/23/2008 6:21:56 PM PDT by Tucker39 (Darwin, Huxley, Sagan, et al began believing in God and Creation after 5 seconds in Hell!)
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To: Tucker39
Your money might be well placed but of course the Scriptures don't say anything about how the dinosaurs (we're talking about the largest varieties) ended.
Since only a limited number of animals would fit on the Ark it would represent a “choke point” on animal varieties within a “kind”.
15 posted on 07/23/2008 6:45:09 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change

Sorry you found it too difficult to understand entirely.


16 posted on 07/25/2008 9:04:13 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring

And I’m sorry you couldn’t understand what I wrote entirely.


17 posted on 07/25/2008 9:09:43 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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