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Readers protest teen novel 'Breaking Dawn' (It's anti-abortion)
guelphmercury.com ^ | 8/9/08 | Lee-Anne Goodman/Canadian Press

Posted on 08/09/2008 12:41:57 PM PDT by wagglebee

A little over a week ago, the literary world was lauding novelist Stephenie Meyer, a Mormon stay-at-home mother, as the new J.K. Rowling amid the excitement surrounding the release of the fourth instalment in her "Twilight" teen fiction series, "Breaking Dawn."

Today, the bestselling book is the subject of a backlash that's prompted a group in the United States to organize a "return your book" protest.

On Amazon's U.S. website, a group of readers, led by a one-time bookstore employee, is urging former fans to return their copies of "Breaking Dawn" in order to deprive Meyer of royalties.

Employees of the Borders bookstore chain in the U.S. have reported that some copies are being returned by indignant readers. A representative of the Chapters-Indigo chain in Canada, where the book sold 100,000 copies last weekend, could not immediately be reached for comment yesterday.

"Seriously, folks -- don't burn your copies of the book, return them," wrote the protest organizer, nicknamed Baby Strange, on Amazon.com. "I think Meyer's fans would send a much more powerful message if, instead of a book-burning tour, they staged a book-returning tour."

What's the beef for readers? Some are complaining about Meyer's portrayal of her heroine, Bella, as being disturbingly desperate to hold on to her new husband, Edward the vampire. Others are taking issue with the book's focus on Bella's unexpected but post-marital teen pregnancy, while still others see an off-putting anti-abortion message in "Breaking Dawn."

About half of the Canadian readers weighing in on Amazon's Canuck website aren't happy with Bella's behaviour and the turn of events in "Breaking Dawn."

"Not only is this girl seriously melodramatic and clumsy, she's the most weak-willed and pathetic character ever written," wrote a 28-year-old Canadian fan named Claire R.

"She has said numerous times that she would simply 'die' if Edward ever left her. It's like her entire life revolves around him. What are you trying to tell young women, Ms. Meyer . . . don't girls have enough self-esteem problems already? Should they really be reading books about a girl who has no life outside of her boyfriend, a girl who readily admits that she would die if he were to ever leave her?"

Another Canadian reader, Annette from Vancouver, said she hated the way "Breaking Dawn" focuses on Bella's pregnancy.

"I think most readers would have settled for maybe a surprise pregnancy at the end (or something to that effect if Meyer really wanted a baby in this story), but the fact that it swallowed the whole plot just plain sucks," she wrote. "I was extremely disappointed with the fourth book. I want my money back."

Book industry observers say Meyer's entire "Twilight" series owes much of its success to its avid online following of young female readers, and many of the complaints about "Breaking Dawn" can be found on blogs and websites.

Some readers are taking issue with the anti-abortion allegory in "Breaking Dawn," an unsurprising element considering Meyer has described herself as "really, really religious."


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Some readers are taking issue with the anti-abortion allegory in "Breaking Dawn," an unsurprising element considering Meyer has described herself as "really, really religious."

And this is undoubtedly the real opposition.

1 posted on 08/09/2008 12:41:58 PM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 08/09/2008 12:42:55 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 08/09/2008 12:43:42 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Just shows how brainwashed teens are nowadays. (Exceptions are those that are home schooled and have a good relationship with their church).


4 posted on 08/09/2008 12:44:19 PM PDT by proudofthesouth (Homosexuality IS a choice! There isn't any biological reason for it. They CHOOSE to be that way!)
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To: restornu

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5 posted on 08/09/2008 12:44:37 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

I don’t know anything about the series—but it’s the #1 on Amazon right now, with almost 2 thousand reviews.


6 posted on 08/09/2008 12:49:02 PM PDT by Mamzelle (In the cool, dark quiet of my mailbox, John McCain asks me for money)
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To: wagglebee

Bring it on, wimps!! Let’s go out and buy the books in droves!


7 posted on 08/09/2008 12:49:03 PM PDT by rjp2005 (Lord have mercy on us)
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To: wagglebee

Pro-life message of not, these books seem to be awfully creepy fare that I wouldn’t let my daughter near. And no, I don’t mean creepy as in “It has a vampire in it and vampires are creepy.”

I mean as in relationship creepy:
http://thepoint.breakpoint.org/2008/07/twilight-the-ol.html


8 posted on 08/09/2008 12:51:54 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (*******It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.******)
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To: rjp2005

Not so fast...see the link in post 8.


9 posted on 08/09/2008 12:52:39 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (*******It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.******)
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To: Mr. Silverback

That fact I was not aware of.


10 posted on 08/09/2008 12:53:41 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

‘”Seriously, folks — don’t burn your copies of the book...”’

That pretty much captures the mind set of the Left here and on similar matters dealing with freedom of expression.

Sieg Heil,Baby Strange!


11 posted on 08/09/2008 12:54:58 PM PDT by Robwin
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To: Mr. Silverback

I’ve never heard of them before...

What is it you object to ???


12 posted on 08/09/2008 12:57:43 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Mr. Silverback
Oh, please.

I could post a website decrying the creepiness of Woody Woodpecker and get people to believe it.

My 17 year-old daughter read the previous books in the series and is almost finished with this one.

She is a deeply committed Christian who helps lead praise and worship at our church. She has a real aversion to things “on the dark side” and surprising wisdom for someone so young — far far far more than her daddy had at that age.

We can strain at this gnat all day, while real evil runs roughshod over our youth culture.

13 posted on 08/09/2008 1:00:04 PM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Thanks for that great link. I have no desire to read the series. In general I am disturbed at the popularity of taking what has usually been thought as evil and making it seductive (yeah I know vampires are not real) but there is a deeper message here. We are in this society being asked to accept as viable and affirming choices that those before us had no problem identifying as poison to the soul. If no one thinks teen, children or adult fiction does not play an important role in this they are very naive (sp).


14 posted on 08/09/2008 1:00:18 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: wagglebee

Gotta say, too many modern women are pitifully delicate and downright batty, despite unceasing self serving talk about being independent and having strong self esteem.

In my experience female liberals fall in line very quickly - just reassure them that their right to abortion will always be there (no matter how aged and rancid her sex parts might me), and assure them that their government cheese will be there if the provider in their lives ever wises up and busts out on the next laundry truck.

It’s just for that reason I can’t feel sorry for Elizabeth Edwards - she goes along to get along. If she has no dignity, why should I treat her with dignity?


15 posted on 08/09/2008 1:02:15 PM PDT by Sgt Joe Friday 714
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To: Mr. Silverback
I can understand why you are concerned. The relationship sounds unhealthy and obsessive.
16 posted on 08/09/2008 1:03:43 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: wagglebee
"She has said numerous times that she would simply 'die' if Edward ever left her. It's like her entire life revolves around him. What are you trying to tell young women, Ms. Meyer . . . don't girls have enough self-esteem problems already? Should they really be reading books about a girl who has no life outside of her boyfriend, a girl who readily admits that she would die if he were to ever leave her?"

I wonder what these people said that when they read OF HUMAN BONDAGE, by Somerset Maugham? I have a feeling that these folks don't spend a lot of time reading great literature and they obviously don't want you to do so either.


17 posted on 08/09/2008 1:05:25 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Mr. Silverback
the process will involve days of torture, take away her humanity, and stop her heart, and that afterward she might not be able to control her thirst for human blood...

So that's what happened to Hillary!

18 posted on 08/09/2008 1:05:38 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Tennessee Nana

I posted the link so y’all could see a review from someone who’s read it. I haven’t, but unless The Point and the folks they cite are liars, this book is bizarrely creepy.


19 posted on 08/09/2008 1:07:06 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (*******It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.******)
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To: BenLurkin

LOL!


20 posted on 08/09/2008 1:09:54 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (*******It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.******)
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To: Mr. Silverback; wagglebee

I haven’t read it, either.


21 posted on 08/09/2008 1:10:44 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

OK I see ...

I went back and actually READ the link...

“nice” books...

No pre-marital sex...

But every other kind of abuse and demonic goings on...

But HEY...

No pre-marital sex...


22 posted on 08/09/2008 1:12:56 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: wagglebee

If the opposition doesn’t like the book; then don’t buy it.

Don’t go and scream not to buy the book or try to ban it just because you are for murdering babies.


23 posted on 08/09/2008 1:13:24 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: freekitty

That does seem rather odd, doesn’t it?

My guess is that the writer was just looking for an excuse to give free publicity to these people in hopes that others would follow their weird example.


24 posted on 08/09/2008 1:20:12 PM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: wagglebee

This would be the way that the MSM and the networks would oppose baby killing if they weren’t in favor of it. They would turn this book into a made for TV movie.

They would try to denormalize the idea of slaughtering an infant in the womb.

Instead the liberal agenda is more interested in normalizing homosexuality with shows like Will and Grace and Two and Half Men, while banning smoking on screen like I Love Lucy to advance their “progressive” agenda to denormalize a behavior libs find offensive.


25 posted on 08/09/2008 1:25:57 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

“No pre-marital sex...
But every other kind of abuse and demonic goings on...”

It’s fiction- there is supposed to be a suspension of disbelief. It sounds like the books have themes in them that offend BOTH Cons and Libs- kinda like Bill O’reilly, lol.

I am not for censorship. If there are obsessive relationships in the book, perhaps the parent could explain that that is not a good thing in real life, though it works in the book.

I wouldnt be surprised if the author is pleased that both sides of the aisle take issue with parts of her book.


26 posted on 08/09/2008 1:31:12 PM PDT by Canedawg
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To: wagglebee
See Keep the Aspidistra Flying by George Orwell. This is his one "non-political" novel, but by modern standards it's plenty political.
27 posted on 08/09/2008 1:34:54 PM PDT by Salman
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To: freekitty; wagglebee
just because you are for murdering babies.

LOL! This is the funniest post I've ever read!

28 posted on 08/09/2008 1:40:38 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Obama "King of Kings and Lord of Lords")
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To: Mr. Silverback
Pro-life message of not, these books seem to be awfully creepy fare that I wouldn’t let my daughter near.

I agree. My daughter isn't getting near these.

29 posted on 08/09/2008 1:42:19 PM PDT by conservative cat
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To: Canedawg
If there are obsessive relationships in the book, perhaps the parent could explain that that is not a good thing in real life, though it works in the book.

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Right. Because girls aren't influenced by romance, and certainly wouldn't want to imitate others.

30 posted on 08/09/2008 1:46:02 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
I had never heard of this author or this series....

..but after reading your link, I find the storyline very sick, abstinence or not.

And now I remember last week being in a bookstore, and all the employees were dressed to the 'nines' and said they were going to have a 'book party' and it was for THIS book...which I realized as I read all this.

Very disturbing....very sick.

31 posted on 08/09/2008 1:53:20 PM PDT by Guenevere
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To: Sgt Joe Friday 714

what’s your view of Jackie O?


32 posted on 08/09/2008 1:56:50 PM PDT by huldah1776 ( Worthy is the Lamb)
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To: trisham

Writers shouldnt be constrained to have to write about only politically correct characters, and be limited to stories where everyone lives happily ever after.

If i recall, Fatal Attraction was a pretty big hit, and that character was obsessive and dysfunctional. Did girls who saw that film become like Glenn Close’ character?


33 posted on 08/09/2008 1:56:52 PM PDT by Canedawg
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To: Skooz
yeah, I read Bram Stoker's Dracula when I was in my teens...

..but the hero was the 'vampire slayer' and the vampire was evil, manipulative (although thinly written as sensuous) and dead/dying/decaying.

Just the little bit I'm reading here, this guy is to be lusted after & desired.

How Christian is this?

34 posted on 08/09/2008 1:57:31 PM PDT by Guenevere
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To: nathanbedford
Isn't OF HUMAN BONDAGE about drug addiction & looking for love in all the wrong places?

It's a morality play...of a different time/era when standards were high and most people who read it, at some level, understood the difference of right/wrong.

How can you compare with sexy vampire making young teens swoon....and young teens having no moral compass to understand the pitfalls.

35 posted on 08/09/2008 2:02:59 PM PDT by Guenevere
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To: Skooz
I could post a website decrying the creepiness of Woody Woodpecker and get people to believe it.

Absolutely! One of the all time great YouTube clips proves your point:

Scary Mary

Regarding the original protest, I thought the libs laughed at us because Murphy Brown was a fictitious character?!
36 posted on 08/09/2008 2:03:33 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Canedawg
Writers shouldnt be constrained to have to write about only politically correct characters, and be limited to stories where everyone lives happily ever after.

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Did you see a post I made here that suggested the author of this book should be prevented from writing?

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If i recall, Fatal Attraction was a pretty big hit, and that character was obsessive and dysfunctional. Did girls who saw that film become like Glenn Close’ character?

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This book is directed toward teens, not adults. Fatal Attraction is hardly in its league. Beyond that, however, Glenn Close's character was rejected by her married lover and killed at the end of the movie, which might possibly make her an uninspiring role model.

37 posted on 08/09/2008 2:07:03 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

How could anyone allow their kids to see that movie?

The horror. The horror.


38 posted on 08/09/2008 2:10:00 PM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: wagglebee

I read all of these books. The first three were good books. Not fantastic but good. There are good messages in the book - waiting for marriage to have sex and the anti-abortion message (which is not even a point in the book) but the anti-abortion message is not where the fans are upset.

This last book in the series is one of the worst books I’ve ever read. I’ll admit to not reading many sci-fi books but one thing I know is that when an author creates a world she needs to stay within the parameters of the world she created. The first three books were like cotton candy - fluff - the battle scenes went from PG to R in Dawn with a bloody birthing scene that puts Alien to shame. And then there are all of the printing/spelling mistakes in the book that the editor never caught.

Fans are NOT upset about an anti-abortion theme but are ticked that they forked over $15.00 for a book that never should have been published. And they’re ticked at Meyers for not staying true to her characters.


39 posted on 08/09/2008 2:20:36 PM PDT by TightyRighty (I enjoy well-mannered frivolity.)
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To: trisham

So dont let your teenage daughter read the book. It isnt like this is required reading in the schools.

I read a lot of Hardy Boys books growing up, but I never thought of them, or other fictional characters in novels as role models, even though those particular brothers were upstanding and interesting.


40 posted on 08/09/2008 2:25:18 PM PDT by Canedawg
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To: Skooz
Dear parent...I've got to ask you....

Have you read even one of your daughter's books?...Have you read the synopsis, (as I just did) ON WIKIPEDIA?

I became curious and simply Googled this book series, author.....truly truly disgusting junk!

This book series, this author and the characters in this book is SICKO!

At least be informed WHAT your daughter "who helps lead praise and worship at church' is filling her heart & head with.

I don't know how old she is, but as long as she's still a teen and under your roof and authority, you still have influence.

Please don't cede it to the dark forces.

How edifying is..... vampires making 'love' and leaving heavy bruising and impregnating the heroine and she gets a thirst for blood and her baby pops out after only one month and her vampire husband gives her morphine so she won't feel the pain when he makes her a full vampire.

Just sheeesh!

Your impressionable daughter is filling her mind with this dark stuff....and with your approval.

41 posted on 08/09/2008 2:28:04 PM PDT by Guenevere
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Honestly, you have not the slightest idea what you are talking about.

Wikipedia? Are you kidding me? That’s your research?

We have raised our daughter in the way she should go. She has been instilled with strong moral values and Scripture from the day of her birth. I can think of no one her age who has had a life more bathed in prayer.

What’s more, she’s really a prude. The girls at her school have mocked her as “Saintly Sarah,” because she refuses to go to the parties they go to or let boys go as far as they do. And this is at a conservative Christian school.

She has also gotten heat from other kids because of how strict her mother and I are, and have always been. We have always known where she is and who she is with 24/7 and she has rarely been out of our sight.

At a time when most teens are rebelling and getting into trouble, she is closer than ever to her mother and me. She has a habit of telling her mother EVERYTHING.

Yeah, she’s had her teen moments. A lot of them. But, at age 17 she has yet to bring shame on our family.

I guess it’s because she understands that it is fiction.

Her favorite book remains The Bible.


42 posted on 08/09/2008 2:40:38 PM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: Guenevere
How can you compare with sexy vampire making young teens swoon....and young teens having no moral compass to understand the pitfalls.

Do you mean how can I "equate"? And I take it that you mean how can I equate Of Human Bondage with this "sexy vampire making young teens swoon"? That is not what I am equating, I quoted what I was equating:

"She has said numerous times that she would simply 'die' if Edward ever left her. It's like her entire life revolves around him. What are you trying to tell young women, Ms. Meyer . . . don't girls have enough self-esteem problems already? Should they really be reading books about a girl who has no life outside of her boyfriend, a girl who readily admits that she would die if he were to ever leave her?"

I don't know anything about the book in question except the little bit that can be gleaned from these quotes. But that much tells me that the subject matter is the stuff of very great literature such as OF HUMAN BONDAGE.

Incidentally, I am not sure that the era at the turn of the last century that Maugham portrays is all that much more moral. After all, the male is morbidly obsessed with a prostitute who is incapable of staying off the street. This is pretty rough stuff but I think the issues are timeless and have to do with man's eschatological condition.

My objection first, is that I have an instinctive reaction against book burning of any sort. Let the young teenagers read these things and let them sort them out themselves. This is not, after all, a textbook forced upon children in school, it is a book freely obtainable or easily eschewed in the open marketplace.

Second, these censors do not object so much about this description that you put forth, they object to be portrayal of the female as not being dominant and fully in charge of her life. Sorry, but that equates to both characters in Maugham's work, both male and female, and has nothing to do with how the author handles the issue. The author may handle it well or poorly but that is quite different from painting the description. Maugham handles it brilliantly. The objection has to do with political correctness.

And that is my third objection, political correctness is a deadly poison which is killing our young people. I devote some of my about page to the subject.


43 posted on 08/09/2008 2:40:41 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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OK, you didn't appreciate the synopsis Wikipedia gave..?

As a parent, what is YOUR 'nutshell version' of this book, Breaking Dawn (if you don't mind)

nathanbedford, you would rather take me to task for my grammatical errors than discuss the merits of the book....!

Dear parent, it's your child.

You are comfortable with this and your conscience doesn't reject this or cause you to feel uncomfortable? .....the Holy Spirit doesn't nudge you with 'this isn't edifying?'

I still find it sad if young, impressionable teens are succumbing to this tripe.

44 posted on 08/09/2008 3:00:55 PM PDT by Guenevere
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To: Canedawg
So dont let your teenage daughter read the book

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Bingo! Now you've got it!

45 posted on 08/09/2008 3:01:42 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Guenevere

The sex in these books (or lack thereof) is tamer than anything you’d find in the Bible. And she is not given morphine so she won’t feel the pain of changing into a vampire - she was given morphine for her delivery. Telling someone to inform themselves when you yourself are not is the epitome of hypocrisy.


46 posted on 08/09/2008 3:03:40 PM PDT by TightyRighty (I enjoy well-mannered frivolity.)
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To: TightyRighty
Oh yes you're right....she's given morphine for delivery because she's only carried one month and the 'baby' grew rapidly and breaks her ribs when it pops out....

..how silly of me.

Enough!....you all digest this bloody morsel.

This thread disgusts me.

47 posted on 08/09/2008 3:11:06 PM PDT by Guenevere
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To: nathanbedford

I agree with you. Hearing some people complain about the “anti-abortion” themes, and others complaining about the nature of her relationship with a vampire is two sides of the same coin.


48 posted on 08/09/2008 3:11:41 PM PDT by Canedawg
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To: Guenevere
Ach. It's a disappointment, to be sure.
49 posted on 08/09/2008 3:12:58 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Guenevere

Oh, get a grip.


50 posted on 08/09/2008 3:14:55 PM PDT by TightyRighty (I enjoy well-mannered frivolity.)
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