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Spotless Sun: Blankest Year of the Space Age
science.nasa.gov ^ | 09.30.2008 | Dr. Tony Phillips

Posted on 10/01/2008 5:54:24 AM PDT by SpinnerWebb

Astronomers who count sunspots have announced that 2008 is now the "blankest year" of the Space Age.

As of Sept. 27, 2008, the sun had been blank, i.e., had no visible sunspots, on 200 days of the year. To find a year with more blank suns, you have to go back to 1954, three years before the launch of Sputnik, when the sun was blank 241 times.

"Sunspot counts are at a 50-year low," says solar physicist David Hathaway of the NASA Marshall Space Flight Center. "We're experiencing a deep minimum of the solar cycle."


TOPICS: Astronomy
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; globalwarming; sun; sunspot
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To: AU72
Farmers Almanac says when the manbearpig stores much fat, cold winter coming.


21 posted on 10/01/2008 6:33:31 AM PDT by Covenantor ( Gov. Palin's on board, the fish fry has commenced.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
“It'll be interesting to see things spin as the politicians realize they bet on exactly the wrong horse”

They'll never admit it. Racism in mortgage lending was to be solved with new regulations. Now that the wheels are coming off, the same politicians are screaming that the problem was deregulation. 180 degrees without even spilling their late.

As long as things are “progressive” toward a global socialist economy, they will say anything and rely on our short memories and lack of a database of past announcements (the latter has changed a little, for now).

22 posted on 10/01/2008 6:35:42 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: mbynack

Yep, somehow this MUST be Bush’s fault.


23 posted on 10/01/2008 6:41:24 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: SpinnerWebb

Although it started with a long minimum, that sunspot cycle became extremely active, peaking in 1958-59. I didn’t receive my first amateur radio license until 1961, but the sunspot cycle that peaked in ‘58-59 was legendary for radio propagation. (Higher sunspot count correlates with increased ionization of the upper atmosphere, where radio signals are refracted (”skipped”) back to earth, thousands of miles from where they originated.)

Jack


24 posted on 10/01/2008 6:43:28 AM PDT by JackOfVA
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To: SpinnerWebb

Cheney-Halliburton has been illegally drilling on those spots without congressional approval. That’s why they’re gone now.

We must investigate.


25 posted on 10/01/2008 6:47:29 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: PreciousLiberty

Technically - You’re right: Solar Cycle 25 is due after solar cycle 24 finisghes, and hte “average” sunspot cycle” is 11-13 years. So, by math, solar cycle 25 might come that early “The really crazy part is that Solar Cycle 25 (not due for 11-13 years) is expected to be extremely weak by NASA..”

But solar cycle 24 hasn’t started yet (now, as of Oct 2008 we are still at the minimum zero sunspot activity between cycle 23 and 24), and nobody can predict when cycle 24 will even begin, much less end. Nor how high the peak of cycle 24 will be: It too may be as low as cycle 25 may be.

So, could we face 20-30 years more of cooling? Absolutely.

And I would bet on the side of 28-36 years of cooling - before temperatures even get BACK to where they are now. All previous cooling cycles this century have had 26-30 years of cooling, 5-10 years of flat, and 26-30 years of increase again, 5-10 years of flat, .....


26 posted on 10/01/2008 7:01:29 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: nina0113; PreciousLiberty

NASA looks at the circulating currents underneath the surface. Apparently the speed of those plasma currents relates fairly well with the intensity of the next solar cycle.


27 posted on 10/01/2008 7:03:53 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: JackOfVA

Back either ‘81 or ‘82 I was in Bavaria and caught a skip out of Boston of all places. And to top it off the guy was on a CB!!


28 posted on 10/01/2008 7:48:00 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Amazing how Obama, Rangel, Biden and Dodd all got killer mortgage rates and below cost property.)
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To: SpinnerWebb

I’ve lived in FL for 16 years. We usually get our first cold front of the year sometime during the first half of October, usually like clockwork from the 7th - 15th. Now, granted this time of year a “cold front” means that instead of 89 degrees it will be 82 degrees :) But still.

This year it came a week ago.

Not looking forward to January.


29 posted on 10/01/2008 7:51:28 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Amazing how Obama, Rangel, Biden and Dodd all got killer mortgage rates and below cost property.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Dang...And I’m taking the family to Sarasota over Christmas...Was hoping that global warming would really kick in over that time frame.


30 posted on 10/01/2008 9:39:44 AM PDT by opus86
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To: opus86

LOL! Cross your fingers. :-) I remember a cold New Years but not a cold Christmas.


31 posted on 10/01/2008 10:13:35 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Amazing how Obama, Rangel, Biden and Dodd all got killer mortgage rates and below cost property.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Sun spot ping


32 posted on 10/01/2008 10:43:23 AM PDT by BBell
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To: PreciousLiberty
We’ve had larger eruptions than Pinatubo in both the southern and northern hemispheres over the last year (Chile and the Aleutians).

Really?

Why haven't we heard more about them then?

Pinatubo was ALL over the network news.

33 posted on 10/01/2008 11:34:29 AM PDT by bayliving (Democrats used to be funny. Now they're just plain dangerous.)
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34 posted on 10/01/2008 2:45:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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If only we had politicians with spotless records and a sun without....


35 posted on 10/01/2008 4:39:22 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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36 posted on 10/01/2008 5:52:11 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drill Here! Drill Now! Pay Less! Sign the petition at http://www.americansolutions.com/)
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To: PreciousLiberty
We've had larger eruptions than Pinatubo in both the southern and northern hemispheres over the last year (Chile and the Aleutians).

Pinatubo pushed sulfur 20 miles high, that's what blocks the sun. The Chilean volcano was 6 or 7, don't know about the other.

37 posted on 10/01/2008 5:59:36 PM PDT by palmer (Some third party malcontents don't like Palin because she is a true conservative)
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To: bayliving

Because they weren’t as powerful as Pinatubo (not high enough to cause climate changes).


38 posted on 10/01/2008 6:02:45 PM PDT by palmer (Some third party malcontents don't like Palin because she is a true conservative)
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To: palmer

“Pinatubo pushed sulfur 20 miles high, that’s what blocks the sun. The Chilean volcano was 6 or 7, don’t know about the other.”

The Chile blast had a larger cloud than Pinatubo - but apparently the SO2 amounts wasn’t too high (I hadn’t seen anything on that until today). The Aleutian blast released over 1,000,000 tons of SO2, but that was still supposedly only 1/20 of Pinatubo’s output.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354282,00.html
http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/article.asp?ID=1987

So, the volcanism probably won’t be too much of a factor...


39 posted on 10/01/2008 6:21:53 PM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: PreciousLiberty

yep, those extra miles make a difference. The sulfur spreads nicely and hangs around in the stratosphere for a year or two.


40 posted on 10/01/2008 6:33:16 PM PDT by palmer (Some third party malcontents don't like Palin because she is a true conservative)
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