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Coast-2-Coast AM 10.09.08 Nicholas Gruner -Fatima Secrets-
coast-2-coast AM ^ | 10.09.08 | Perdogg

Posted on 10/09/2008 7:23:07 PM PDT by Perdogg

Nicholas Gruner -Fatima Secrets- fatima.org Catholic priest, Fr. Nicholas Gruner of the Fatima Center will discuss his plans to petition Pope Benedict XVI to release the text of Sister Lucia's account of the Third Secret of Fatima.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Religion; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: fatima

1 posted on 10/09/2008 7:23:07 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Las Vegas Dave; Quix; SunkenCiv; presidio9; Alex Murphy; NYer; narses; stfassisi

ping


2 posted on 10/09/2008 7:24:33 PM PDT by Perdogg ("That One" for President - of Kenya, Say no to Barack Odinga)
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To: Perdogg

ping


3 posted on 10/09/2008 7:28:08 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Perdogg

I remember listening to the “inverse” interview with Father Malichi Martin when he discussed what he could ‘NOT’ reveal but elicited listeners to ask “around” what could be revealed. It was pretty clear what the secret was. And it wasn’t what was revealed by the Church.


4 posted on 10/09/2008 7:33:13 PM PDT by thatdewd
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To: Perdogg

THANKS.

SHOULD BE very interesting.

Anyone belong to STREAMLINK AT C2C who can provide us with a transcript by and by?


5 posted on 10/09/2008 7:36:49 PM PDT by Quix (POL LDRS GLOBALIST QUOTES: #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: Perdogg

Please ask God to help guide you to the truth when listening to Fr. Nicholas Gruner.

Yes, Virgina, Fr. Nicholas is Suspended.

http://www.theotokos.org.uk/pages/fatima/ngruner/wanderer.html

Fr. Gruner and his media apostolates
Fátima Crusader and Catholic Family News

http://www.ewtn.com/expert/answers/fr_gruner_old.htm


6 posted on 10/09/2008 7:40:08 PM PDT by JPII Be Not Afraid (McCain/Palin 08)
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To: Quix

Please ping me to any updates. Thanks in advance.


7 posted on 10/09/2008 7:41:56 PM PDT by Rushmore Rocks
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To: Rushmore Rocks

Likewise, if you see them before I do.

Thx.


8 posted on 10/09/2008 7:44:34 PM PDT by Quix (POL LDRS GLOBALIST QUOTES: #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: Quix

Will do......although I am not able to spend as much time here as I would like.


9 posted on 10/09/2008 7:47:15 PM PDT by Rushmore Rocks
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Here's a ‘BUMP’ for Coast-2-Coast AM !

Enjoy the show, like Noory, but Ian Punnet is great.

10 posted on 10/09/2008 8:00:10 PM PDT by msnpatriot
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To: JPII Be Not Afraid

Fr. Gruner is incardinated in a diocese in India.

http://www.fatima.org/apostolate/defense/notsusvir.asp

ENOUGH.


11 posted on 10/09/2008 8:12:46 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (Repentance is a contract with God for a second life - St. John Climacus)
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To: Rushmore Rocks

Likewise. Still trying to get the raised tomato bed glazed in with polycarbonate panels before frost . . . which could be this weekend. Plastic sheeting will hold until I can finish but still . . . lots to do.

And I’ve been a Laurel & Hardy disaster a time or two thinking I could save time with the glue and foam spacers and ending up like a one armed paper hanger trying to do the work of two men . . . what a riot . . . to anyone who’d have watched but not me! LOL.

Finally got enough clamps and will let the glue set a bit before attaching the panels.


12 posted on 10/09/2008 8:18:46 PM PDT by Quix (POL LDRS GLOBALIST QUOTES: #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: Quix
SHOULD BE very interesting.

Why? Do you think Mary appeared at Fatima? If so, why aren't you Catholic? If not, why is an intramural squabble between two sets of people who think she did "very interesting"?

One of major things Gruner is concerned about is whether or not the Papal consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, commanded in the Fatima apparition, was properly carried out. I'm not sure I understand at all why you would care one way or the other.

Care to enlighten me?

13 posted on 10/09/2008 8:28:07 PM PDT by Campion
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To: Campion

As I’ve stated elsewhere several times . . .

I used to accept Fatima more or less as propagandized by the Jesuits et al.

Having read enough UFO docs since 1962, when I read some of the better researched stuff on the original event and original witnesses specific observations, I could no longer buy the propagandized, sanitized, morphed version by the Vatican/Roman Institution.

I don’t really know what this Vatican rep will be saying. But it might be interesting.

I now consider the whole event little more than a grand part of a many millennial long hoax to deceive, where and were it possible, even the elect of Christ.

I do not believe the personage at Fatima was the authentic Mary, Mother of Jesus, at all.


14 posted on 10/09/2008 8:34:49 PM PDT by Quix (POL LDRS GLOBALIST QUOTES: #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

That is his site, it would be pro-Gruner. All I was saying is use discernment.

Isn’t that what we are saying to the Obama people. Discern what you are being told.

Not trying to start a riot, sorry.


15 posted on 10/09/2008 9:01:22 PM PDT by JPII Be Not Afraid (McCain/Palin 08)
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To: Quix

Fatima is an accepted apparition by the church. Thousands seen the sun dance and prophecy by Lucia came true. These are used to discern true apparitions.

In fact, Pope John Paul II thanked Our Lady of Fatima for saving his life when he was shot. He bowed when he saw her in the crowd just as the shot was fired. His position saved his life. Our Lady of Fatima, in my eyes is real, very real.


16 posted on 10/09/2008 9:12:32 PM PDT by JPII Be Not Afraid (McCain/Palin 08)
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To: JPII Be Not Afraid

Interesting about John Paul II bowing to Our Lady of Fatima as the shots were fired at him and it saved his life. I was unaware of that.


17 posted on 10/09/2008 9:30:28 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Governor Palin won the debate hands down!!! Just beautiful! : ))
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To: JPII Be Not Afraid

The Archbishop himself of the diocese has stated Fr. Gruner is incardinated in his diocese.

You need to stay away from neo con kooks, particularly one was into the occult and may still be.


18 posted on 10/09/2008 10:01:54 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (Repentance is a contract with God for a second life - St. John Climacus)
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To: JPII Be Not Afraid

and I should add, bearing false witness is a sin. Don’t help others do so.


19 posted on 10/09/2008 10:03:01 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (Repentance is a contract with God for a second life - St. John Climacus)
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To: Perdogg

“The Third Secret will be released in full at the outbreak of a major war.”

-prophecy of Sister Lucy in 1992.


20 posted on 10/10/2008 12:24:07 AM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (Repentance is a contract with God for a second life - St. John Climacus)
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To: JPII Be Not Afraid

I gather you haven’t examined the evidence.

Or, you haven’t sufficient knowledge of such phenomena with which to compare.

Or, bias is blinding.

Millennially long deceptions from hell can be very polished, indeed. I believe Fatima is but one puzzle piece of such deceptions . . . a major puzzle piece in some respects, perhaps . . . but just one of many.

Lots of things are counterfeited in our era . . . and many more are about to be.


21 posted on 10/10/2008 1:01:14 AM PDT by Quix (POL LDRS GLOBALIST QUOTES: #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

Do you mean:

incardinalated?

Which Merrium-Webster doesn’t have, BTW


22 posted on 10/10/2008 1:06:55 AM PDT by Quix (POL LDRS GLOBALIST QUOTES: #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: Quix

no, I’m not familiar with that term.

If I spelled it right, incardinated means an individual priest basically belongs to a diocese where he is approved to exercise his priestly functions.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07704a.htm


23 posted on 10/10/2008 1:10:40 AM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (Repentance is a contract with God for a second life - St. John Climacus)
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To: Perdogg

This is very interesting. Fr. G has been on for over 2 hrs. He said something I’ve been saying for a while. The Pope in white killed in the Third Secret vision is not JPII, it’s Benedict.


24 posted on 10/10/2008 1:12:48 AM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (Repentance is a contract with God for a second life - St. John Climacus)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

Hmmmmm.

Guess I’m still not precisely confident of your point.

Thanks for your kind reply.


25 posted on 10/10/2008 1:12:58 AM PDT by Quix (POL LDRS GLOBALIST QUOTES: #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

I found that a rather sobering point.

I’ve felt for months that such was highly likely. And I wasn’t aware of anyone else thinking or saying such a thing.

God have mercy and prevent such, if at all possible.


26 posted on 10/10/2008 1:14:24 AM PDT by Quix (POL LDRS GLOBALIST QUOTES: #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: thatdewd

Just curious, but what was the secret?


27 posted on 10/10/2008 1:14:56 AM PDT by kalee
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

That was poorly put—I’m not confident of a precise understanding of your point and would appreciate your elaboration.


28 posted on 10/10/2008 1:15:10 AM PDT by Quix (POL LDRS GLOBALIST QUOTES: #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

bearing false witness is a sin. Don’t help others do so.

I would agree with that statement. Bearing false witness against the Holy Father and Sr. Lucia is nothing I would want to promote.


29 posted on 10/10/2008 8:58:52 AM PDT by JPII Be Not Afraid (McCain/Palin 08)
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To: JPII Be Not Afraid

Good. Then quit spreading lies.


30 posted on 10/10/2008 2:14:01 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (Repentance is a contract with God for a second life - St. John Climacus)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

Whatever! You seriously believe the Holy Father and Sr. Lucia are liars. Just because Fr. Gruner believes there is more to the story, doesn’t mean it is so. By the fruits they will be known. His fruits have been divisive and disturbing. This is not of God. Sr. Lucia said so herself.


31 posted on 10/10/2008 2:23:03 PM PDT by JPII Be Not Afraid (McCain/Palin 08)
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To: JPII Be Not Afraid

No, I don’t and neither does Fr. Gruner which you would know if you paid attention to the facts rather than your own personal little mission of bashing a good priest.

You haven’t got one “fact” right yet.


32 posted on 10/10/2008 2:25:25 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (Repentance is a contract with God for a second life - St. John Climacus)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

I guess believe what you want. Fr. Gruner is not my salvation. I do not have to believe in what he says, especially if there is reason to doubt it. Discernment is the answer. You discern your truth and I will discern mine.


33 posted on 10/10/2008 2:33:20 PM PDT by JPII Be Not Afraid (McCain/Palin 08)
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