GUN QUESTION: ARMALITE RIFLE AR-10 RIFLE

http://www.armalite.com ^ | October 13, 2008 | Yosemitest

[Yosemitest]

I put a ARMALITE AR-10 Rifle, Model 10A2C (black) on lay-a-way and should have it in my hands in 60 days.

Specifications are:
Model: A2 Carbine with Green or Black Furniture
Caliber: .308/7.62mm NATO
Barrel: 16" Double Lapped, Chrome Lined, Threaded 5/8x24
Rifling Twist: RH 1:11.25"
Muzzle Device: Flash Suppressor
Front Sight Base: A2 Front Sight Assembly
Rear Sight: .70/.195 Battle Sight
Upper Receiver: Forged A2
Trigger: Tactical Two Stage
Overall Length: 37.1"
Weight: 9 lbs.
Finish: Hard Anodized Aluminum, Manganese Phosphated Steel
Accuracy: 1.5 - 2 MOA
Included with Rifle: One 10 round Magazine, One 20 round Magazine, Sling, Black Case, Owners Manual, Limited Lifetime Warranty

I wanted a Vector V-51 Pistol but they're under a lawsuite by H&K and aren't producing them.

Vector Arms is no longer doing business. We have a few closeouts, limiteds to supplies on hand. All backorders for rifles, handguns and parts will be cancelled. We regret any inconvenience.

So I decided against the $200.00 decle fee from the government for a Short Barreled Rifle (10.5 inches) and against worring about crossing state lines with a SBR.

ACCESSORIES from Armalite are expensive. I know I want a short detachable scope, but what kind I don't know. I like the TA01B: 4x32 Trijicon ACOG® with Red Crosshair Full Illumination, but it's not cheap.



What do y'all recommend?

[Yosemitest]

I'm open for any advice. I want to complete my purchase before Jan 1, 2009, ... just in case ....

[2banana]

Armalites are the hondas of the CAR-16 world. They are nice and work.

[El Laton Caliente]

I’ve seen both of those recommended, but don’t own either.

A PTR91 might have been another option given you tastes.

Try www.gunsnet.net for a number of opinions.

[Sawdring]

After you get it and Obama gets elected, go to the hardware store, buy three feet of 10” PVC, two 10” end caps, purple primer, PVC glue, and a shovel.

[shag377]

What is your primary purpose going to be?

[Domandred]

If it’s time to bury them, it’s time to use them. Just sayin

[El Laton Caliente]

Some of my similar toys:

http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/medium/Picture_0032.jpg

http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/medium/ndm86blu_03.jpg

http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/medium/16577CETME_055.jpg

http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/medium/16577CETME_051.jpg

I have the PTR91 also, but can’t find the pictures...

[Yosemitest]

You forgot the large bucket of axle grease, bury more than 6 feet deep, and put plenty of scrap metal on top of it as you fill the hole. Also bury two 1,000 round boxes of military surplus ammo in a different location under the same conditions. I really wanted the Vector V-51 for the shortness, but the laws for a SBR is just too much trouble and expense. I just hope I'm happy with this expensive purchase.

[Yosemitest]

After more than 25 years of Air Force experience, I don’t want another .223 in my hands.

[ctdonath2]

Look into the “SASS” (Semi Auto Sniper System) models of the AR10 from various manufacturers.

If legal in your jurisdiction, get a suppressor.

FWIW: quality equipment ain’t cheap. If you have to pull the trigger, and what you expect doesn’t happen, you’ll wish you’d spent more (at least for another second, then you won’t care - ever).

[USMCPOP]

The ACOGs are nice, from what I understand. An alternative is iron sights and $1,000. more ammunition.

[Smogger]

I am picing up a Kel-Tec SU16 today.

It’s pretty popular and relatively insexpensive.

You can check it out here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kel-Tec_SU-16

[Yosemitest]

Home defense, and just in case all hell breaks loose.

I live on a farm in the country, and it could be useful for many different reasons,

but "peace of mind" is the biggest.

[Yosemitest]

"If it’s time to bury them, it’s time to use them."

I agree!!!

[faq]

I bought my DPMS .308 earlier this year, just in case.

That is the exact scope that I purchased. It’s a very impressive scope, no doubt, but I don’t have any experience with other tactical scopes to compare. If you wear glasses, like me, my understanding is that you probably want cross hairs like this one instead of a red dot type scope. Maybe it’s just me but I can’t see those red dots.

My DPMS rifle has a 20 inch barrel and it is surprisingly heavy. I might have considered a 16 inch if I had known that.

Have you considered getting the model with the detachable handle? I think the top handle on that one is fixed.

[PLMerite]

Something to consider: magazines. The AR-10 being .308, are the magazines interchangeable with the M-14 or FAL ?

If the AR-10 uses proprietary mags you’re going to pay through the nose for them and in a crunch won’t be able to find any. If that’s not a concern for you, cool. If it is, maybe you might want to consider a Springfield Armory M1A or the FAL. I have an AR-15 and an M1A mostly because of the commonality of parts with what the military uses.

Just my two cents.

[El Laton Caliente]

What I’m waiting for delivery on:

http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/medium/Saiga12Package005small.jpg

Saiga 12 with a 20 rnd drum and a couple Fuzzy Bunny 10 rnd Mags...

[Yosemitest]

Suppressors are legal, for a $200.00 stamp fee.
But Suppressors get into state-line-crossing issues.

I want to keep it short in length for use in urban areas.

[rahbert]

Can you get an AR-10 with the full stock? A full bore rifle like that deserves good sturdy furniture.

[El Laton Caliente]

AR10s are proprietary mags. Right now the HK912/PTR91/Clone/CETME have the cheapest mags followed by the FAL...