Posted on 11/05/2008 4:00:12 AM PST by fedupjohn
Did anyone see the Republican Congressman named Ryan speaking about cleaning out the Party to return to the Conservative roots for the next election? He mentioned a web site and I missed it last night. I am interested in joining him in his quest. Asking for help.
This has turned into a chat room. People have become so self important that a mere thread posting is not enough. They want to be the thread.
HEY LOOK AT ME !
Paul Ryan from Wisconsin.
I forget the url, and didn’t see it on a quick search - but here’s some background on him:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Ryan_(politician)
Nice thinking but did anyone ever hear of the barrell of rotten apples and how one must take the good apples out and dispose of the bad barrel apples. You cannot clean up the rino liberal lite republicans but should go third party conservative to replace the republican party.
I see no other way.
Dude, I marked it General/Chat and I thought it would go there. SORRY.
I’m not sure which website he mentioned, but I can tell you three that will help lead The Purge: FR and getliberty.org, and NetRightNation.com.
In the end, this destroying of McCain/Palin, destruction of the republican party and the conservative movement is George W. Bush’s fault and legacy. He caused it. His actions caused it. This election was a mandate of his administration. America told Bush he failed. Except for the war on terror, he failed. In doing so, he destroyed the conservative movement by moving to the middle and trying to play games with these Marxists. Now, Bush has lead America to something that I fear is now going to destroy the Republic. America as founded is done, finished. The socialists will see this as a mandate to run with the ball and socialize this nation utterly and completely. Folks, DO NOT be surprised that a year from now, we look like the old Soviet Union. ALL the 1960s radicals, Fonda, Hayden, Kerry, Ayers, black panthers, all have reached their goal. They have destroyed America. Bush helped them do it. What took 250 years too build is destroyed in eight years of his administration. America as founded, is finished. The republican party is in shambles. They have no leader. No one to run in 2012. As much as I love Sarah Palin, she is tainted with this defeat.
The web site Ryan mentioned was americanroadmap.org.
I forget the url, and didn’t see it on a quick search - but here’s some background on him:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Ryan_(politician)
Thanks for the help.
When you compromise with evil you become evil. The Republican party has been a disappointment for decades. When was the last time that you heard any Republican advocate eliminating a federal department? And taxes? They are always proposing more effective ways for the government to take our money (fair tax or flat tax?). Republicans are always quick to point out that their tax cuts will bring in even more money. And their fans cheer this notion! How about less money and power for the government.
And all these compromises just get us blamed for the mess. It’s the free market that caused the collapse. George Bush is an anti-regulation, anti-government zealot. NOT. NOT!!
The party stinks.
You know what scene is in my head now? That scene from Braveheart where he has just been betrayed by the Scottish nobility on the battlefield and suffered a huge loss to the English, barely escaping with his life.
Then comes Wallace’s purge.
We’ve suffered our loss. We were betrayed. Now time to go systematically through the ranks of the party and work to defeat/impeach/throw off the ballot every RINO who had a hand in this disaster. The party must now feel our wrath.
That’s the question that conservatives will face now. I think it depends on where the conservative leaders go.
If Palin bolts, watch out.
Also, watch Rush.
What did you expect him to say? Sheesh
Oh how about...I'm confident, or I'm ready for the fight, something to that effect. But see McCain is a loser rino, and losers do stupid ass things like "guarantee" they will win elections.
You think you rino enablers are going to finally wake up, NOW!!!!! NO MORE RINO'S!!
You nailed it, this is exactly what I am thinking, now we need to find a new leader, a face to sell this to the American Socialist Public.
The last 3 words was sarcasm.
Partly correct. IMHO, when it gets right down to brass tacks, we are to blame because we allowed GWB to be branded a Conservative before he was ever elected. We continued to allow GWB, and many RINO's in Congress, to be branded as Conservative when we all knew they weren't. Far too many Conservatives fell for his line about "compassionate Conservatism" and further allowed the Laimstream media to define RINO's as Conservatives when they were anything but Conservative.
GWB certainly had a large roll in last night's thumpin', but those most closely associated with our current status are us.
Ultimately, it's our fault. The sooner we realize that, the sooner we will be on the road to turning the tide on this mess......
The only way for the GOP to regain power is to show absolute fiscal responsibility. I am very sure that the worst things the GOP did to bring on this defeat started about 15 years ago when we broke our Contract With America. We lost out way. We became almost drink with the power we were given and gave away the farm. Now, let us face some facts. The nation as a whole is NOT as socially conservative as many of you would like. That is not going to change any time soon, if ever and we should get used to working from that fact. You can’t legislate morality, you can only suggest it! A norm of social behavior must be maintained but the ultimate level of morality is up to every single person and it can not be rammed down the throats of the population as a whole. Each government should suggest good moral behavior, as they see it but if the GOP is to ever regain power we must forget trying to rule with moral authority and let each person’s sole deal moral issues. More clearly stated, I will not impose my moral issues on you and I ask that you do not impose your moral issue on me. Like it or not, if we stick to fiscal issues we will at least have a chance to start rebuilding the GOP!
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