Posted on 11/07/2008 10:03:56 PM PST by prismsinc
This is interesting analysis by Marston. Does this mean that McCain cost us seats in the House and Senate? I have to admit, when McCain was elected in the primaries, my first inclination was "we lost already". Did any of you think the same thing back then?
McCain's repulsion in the base kept potential voters home for other seats, it seems.
Note that the other person to post to my post pot my point while you dodged it.
IF anyone stayed home in either the primaries or general election, they have themselves to blame. They sure didn’t get out to support anyone besides McCain. If you couldn’t even elect a more conservative candidate within the party how can you expect anything better in the general election.
Can we stop harping on this now? Part of my observation was to help get at the root causes of the loss, namely, electing McCain.
As another pointed out, prune juice conceeded early. He’s always been an inconsiderate jerk. He throws a wrench in it if he doesn’t get what he wants. He despises conservatives. Look at how he’s treating Palin now. I for one am glad now that he lost. We wouldn’t have gotten support from him at all. He would’ve treated Sarah like a puppet if he’d won.
That being said, a free republic requires a just and moral populace to survive. Our founders were unanimous in that view. One cannot legislate morality and to attempt so only limits freedom and personal responsibility.
Morality must reside within the individual. Any government that attempts to fetter the individual with laws of morality casts off the virtues of a republic and dons the cap of a despot. Thus, furthering the demise of the republic.
First off, what I said was not mutually exclusive.
Palin’s rollout was horrendous and in the end, she did end up having higher unfavorables than favorables in the general. The base loved her but she did herself no favors with the Couric and Gibson interviews. I am not saying she hurt McCain in general. She certainly enthused the base and helped fundraising, but it did turn off independents and democrats.
NO! I pulled up my bootstraps and fought for my country... not some selfish dream that wasn’t going to happen this year, half a loaf was better than no loaf at all, which is what we have now and, franky, after 2006 I have no patience for the selfish people who stayed home.
Nope. I guess as long as you are happy to draw blood about the nomination of McCain you are going to have to wait.
You are harping just as much as anyone else. As long as you continue with the "prune juice" crap...well....nevermind. You will aggressively miss my point, so it doesn't matter.
Take you negative comments about Palin and put them somewhere else.
It was McCain’s job to bring in the indies and Dems. Weren’t we told that’s why he was the one guy who could beat Obama? He himself picked Palin becuase he needed to shore the base. The rest was his job and he failed miserably. As for Palin, she was unfairly and mercilessly attacked by a lying corrupt media 24/7 and no one could have withstood that without some loss of popularity.
I felt that way at first. Then I looked at the other side, said damn can’t let that commie in the white house. So I stepped up to the plate, held my nose and voted for McCain.
It did actualy help a bit having palin as #2, otherwise that voting would have been tougher.
The most I get that libertarians want is to freely smoke dope.
Another example - I think the Federal government should be small, rigidly held within its Constitutional restraints, a drastically reduced and balanced budget and debt free (fat chance, I know). I feel that the Federal government shouldn't be wasting money on a Dept of Education, or Welfare/Human Services or any liberal dream waste. Hence, a fiscal conservative.
I do not disagree, but once you have people hooked how do you teach them another way.
However, I think that the Federal government should also stay out of regulating personal lives, beliefs, sexuality. I feel that social conservatives who attempt to use government entities and legislation to enforce their morality on others are just as in the wrong when liberals do so. Hence, this often aligns me with the social 'liberals'.
Social liberals have no problem regulating personal lives they just do not admit it. Taxation is done to punish, certainly not to increase wealth. Government owns the airwaves and leases them out and the government claims control over what gets sent out over them. So government has become the advocate of 'sexuality' and social liberals do not seem to mind the act of taxation to care for the consequences of a sex driven society.
Look, we can deal with reality or we can just make up facts.
From exit polling alone, we saw Palin had higher net negatives. I personally do not think of her as a negative and in fact am quite enamored of her reagan-like qualities.
But the general public’s opinion of her is lower than ours and we need to learn how to deal with that.
Republicans need to be able to stand up to scrutiny apparently because our media is so corrupt and biased.
It seems they didn’t much care for this country, did they? Or were they determined to rid us of these rino republicans once and for all. I hope the Republicans that are left...will keep there selves out of sight...when this country really starts it’s economic collapse...there will be NO one to blame but the DONKEYS.
Right on.
We cannot abandon the unborn and expect any blessing. Ever.
It is ghoulish to use unborn babies as a political bargaining chip.
The right to life is non-negotiable.
Unfortunately, that strategy doesn’t work. Remember Rick Lazio? He had outsiders donate to him. He spent his entire campaign on whitewater. Where’s Lazio now?
A few examples:
Maricopa County Republicans Condemn McCain for Straying from the GOP Reservation
Arizona Republican Party rejects John McCain
McCain's Republican Enemies in His Home State
Recall John McCain (an effort started on Free Republic)
I swore that I would never EVER vote for John McCain. It was one of the most difficult things I've ever done to cast a vote for him in this election. I overcame the anger caused by nearly 2 decades of John McCain's abuse of conservatives, grass-roots Republicans, and the Constitution itself to cast my vote against Obama. I'm absolutely certain that there are a great many people who were unable to overcome that and could not force themselves to cast a vote for John McCain. And THAT is why he lost.
As I said when it was certain that McCain was going to get the nomination, the Democrat candidate was elected at that moment. The GOP literally chose Obama (or Hillary if she had won the primary) when they nominated McCain. Idiots...
My first real run in with McCain was when he endorsed Clinton's marxist nominee for CIA Director, Anthony Lake. McCain went out of his way to push Lake through the approval process, wrote published op-eds in national publications, sent letters to every Senator endorsing Lake, and even went so far to be the Senator that introduced Lake to the Intelligence Committee. It just so happens that Anthony Lake is now Obama's top national security advisor. How's that for where McCain's loyalties really lie? The GOP really screwed this up and the United States of America is going to pay for it indefinitely. Way to go, GOP. They don't call you the stupid party for nothing. I wish I could get my nearly 2 decades of Republican Party activism and support back. What a complete waste of my time...
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