Posted on 11/07/2008 10:03:56 PM PST by prismsinc
This is interesting analysis by Marston. Does this mean that McCain cost us seats in the House and Senate? I have to admit, when McCain was elected in the primaries, my first inclination was "we lost already". Did any of you think the same thing back then?
McCain's repulsion in the base kept potential voters home for other seats, it seems.
Just the fringe. Many of the founders would have been considered libertarians. Libertarian ideals are expressed in the Declaration of Independence, Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged, and Barry Goldwater's Conscience of a Conservative.
The modern libertarian party also has serious problems when it comes to foreign policy.
I do not disagree, but once you have people hooked how do you teach them another way.
Good question. Maybe cold turkey like other addicts....
Social liberals have no problem regulating personal lives they just do not admit it. Taxation is done to punish, certainly not to increase wealth. Government owns the airwaves and leases them out and the government claims control over what gets sent out over them. So government has become the advocate of 'sexuality' and social liberals do not seem to mind the act of taxation to care for the consequences of a sex driven society.
Absolutely. Government has no business doing any of these things. Nor should it have the power of the non- or un- apportioned tax, aka income tax. But that's a discussion for another thread like one on Fair Tax.
But stealing is immoral. Murder is immoral. Lying (breaking of contracts) is immoral. We must have laws against these things, or we will have anarchy.
That’s the most educational post I’ve ever read. Thank you for enlightening me further.
Palin had higher net negatives ..... DiogenesLaertius
What? What planet are you on? SHE HAD A 91% APPROVAL RATING AMONGST REPUBLICANS? Get the bong out of your mouth. ..... prismsinc
General Presidential elections are not Free Republic polls where only the members of the conservative choir are allowed to vote.
You could get 100% of the Republican vote in the general Presidential election and still get trounced 73% to 27%.
Pew Research Center: Fewer Voters Identify as Republicans
A canard. Stealing, murder, and breaking of contracts without just process infringe on another's rights. These are not laws for morality per se but of protection from infringement of one individual on another.
A law requiring a car to stop at a red light prevents one individual from colliding into another, an infringement. However, a law requiring the use of a seat-belt does not prevent an infringement of one individual on another. It is an overextension of government forcing a private choice on the individual 'for his own good.' A driving moral requirement that is not the purview of a limited government. The individual must be able to make the wise choice of safeguarding himself, a personal moral decision.
Somebody mentioned the rainy weather we’d have on the east coast election day, exhorting everyone to go vote anyway.
I replied that ‘rains of fire, blood and frogs could not keep me home.’
Little did I know that I would be adding “the sudden death of a beloved dog that very morning” to the list.
I looked and felt like absolute hell from crying but I went any way because the _future of my country_ was at stake.
A pox upon the “perfect” who did not find their “ideal” in McCain and did not vote because of “purist principles”.
They directly contributed to our upcoming USSA.
Could be just the ACORN factor.
[I consider this a coup via voter fraud; nothing more, nothing less]
What I don’t understand about conservatives not voting because of McCain, that means they essentially voted for Obama. But that kind of stubbornness makes even liberals look smart.
I think your analysis is correct.
McCain’s centrist reputation had the party in such an uproar. He picked a social-conservative/populist, and he probably lost the fiscal conservatives. But, if he had picked a social-moderate/fiscal conservative, he would’ve lost the social conservatives.
Maybe, if he had picked a running mate who was conservative across the board, he would’ve won. That’s all water under the bridge now, but we have to think of the future. If Palin is the future of this party, she’d better start cutting much more federal pork coming into her state and start supporting school choice/privatization. I want the Dept. of Education shut down. If she continues to support more funding for public schools, count me out.
i know of 12 people who stayed home...
MCCain=Dole......
I think Mccain did OKAY but I just winced in agony whenever he said "my friends" and when he said that crap about hussein being "decent".....
he did not contrast himself with hussein...
why was the 95% lie allowed to stand....
anyway, even if he did a better job at campaigning, its almost impossible when your opponent has a 5 to 1 money advantage....
so note to the PUb party.....do not take public financing.....start fund raising early..
you MUST have legitimate campaign offices in every state, many offices infact.
No real argument with these two comments, other than to point out it was NOT Sarah's fault. Look at what the press did, dug up, and the mudslinging on the net...nearly all of proved FALSE! WE failed the VP candidate.
Now knowing how they will react to a strong conservative woman we can plan a proper response. Sarah was a sacrificial lamb. Even now as the mudslinging continues about Sarah, from within our own party, we'd rather hang shame around her neck than around those responsible. As the accusations continue to fly...how many will be proven FALSE yet again?
Now I will say something many here don't want to here. I voted for McCain because of Sarah, otherwise I would have written in John Galt and voted the rest of my ballot. I will never again pull a lever for weakness.
It is that voting behavior that has gotten our country into this mess. If it is a RINO it will not be voted FOR. We have faithfully 'held our nose' and voted for these candidates that do not reflect our values. I am tired of holding my nose and it is irresponsible. As citizens we have a responsiblity to vote for candidates that reflect our values and those in the Constitution. If they are not on the ballot...how should we vote or do we have a responsiblity to not vote our Constitution away by "holding our nose." I have not left the Republican Party, the Party left me.
My Aunt told me that she was going to vote for McCain, but when she got to her polling place, she changed her mind and voted for Obama. When I asked her why, she said, "I don't know." I tried to pry a reason out of her, but all she could come up with was, "I don't know, I just felt like it."
In fact, everyone I know who voted for Obama had pretty much the same "reasoning," with "I don't know" being the most common answer among them. Everyone I know who voted for McCain did so grudgingly, but had a long list of reasons NOT to vote for Obama. You know what? I take it back, I do have some cousins who voted for Obama, and they voted for him for "change, and voting for McCain is voting for evil Bush and his puppet-master, Dick Chaney." But they're brain damaged moonbats, so they don't count.
All I can figure is that Obama did some sort of "Jedi Mind Trick."
Mark
“Stealing, murder, and breaking of contracts without just process infringe on another’s rights.”
Ok. And infringing on another’s rights - whether his right to own property, or live, or speak - is immoral.
So my “canard” stands.
I find it hard to believe there is a debate on this topic.
After supporting illegals and ‘fine gold’, there were to many conservatives that don’t trust McLame.
Those moves seemed like catering to the left for political gain.
We all knew this before he got the nod.
And most of us an FR knew he couldn’t win as a result.
Thanks to you, we are now a socialist nation.
I hope y'all are f***ing happy now.
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