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Abortions And Birth Certificates: Obama’s Soul Revealed
Self ^ | 11/12/08 | MHGinTN

Posted on 11/12/2008 9:22:21 AM PST by MHGinTN

When someone implies that you’re crazy to continue to scrutinize the Obama Certifcate Of Live Birth issue, bring up the following evidence of Obama's and the Democrat Party's willingness to set aside the Constitution for their own empowerment.

While an Illinois legislator, Barack Obama worked on four occasions to cancel the Constitutional human rights of newly born alive human beings. He did this as a way to empower himself with the most radical left of the Democrat party. His method was to argue that 'if the Constitutional rights of newly born alive children were recognized then such would erode the power of Roe v Wade'!

With the current political campaign, Barack Obama and the Democrat Party are fighting tooth and nail to avoid submitting for We The People to inspect, the very background material which is required when applying for a job with a corporation, much less a top security position: the college records, the birth certificate, the working history, medical history, etc.

To top it all off, the way Barack Obama and the Democrat Party are dragging out this controversy over his eligibility, they are aligning the circumstances in such a way as to build up an extortion scenario, where the growing threat of violence and mayhem will be implicit in urging that We The People set aside the Constitutional requirements for someone to be running for President much less take the oath of office legitimately!

The way this man and his army of attorneys are handling this issue is a strong indication as to how he will handle any issue where the Constitution might be in opposition to what he wants to do, what powers he wants to assume, what strategic moves he wants to make! It is for that reason that We The People must, YES MUST, demand that this sneaky man and his political party be made to follow the Constitution regardless of the riots his sycophants may threaten and/or perpetrate.

Barack Hussein Obama (if that is in fact his real name) is a sneaky thuggish. He will ignore any law which is an inconvenience to his empowerment, just like he worked to cancel the Constitutional Rights of the most vulnerable newly born alive infants in Illinois, protecting the killing method of neglect as a way to slaughter newly born alive children.

Let me iterate that more succinctly: Barack Obama worked to cancel Constitutional Rights of newly born children as a means to empower himself (and perhaps protect the industry of fetal tissue harvesting which may have been a campaign contributor to him). He is right now working to cancel the Constitutional requirements for becoming President, using the implicit threat of violence --a threat which grows more imminent with every passing day he ignores the right of We The People to know the facts on him, and he is orchestrating that growing threat as the/a damned thug that he is-- in his campaign to have himself installed as president despite the illegitimacy of his election. He has also sent his minions to the media and Internet, to squelch a rising din over the issue, since the more aware the people are of this possible illegitimacy the less empowering are threats over rejection of him for illegitimacy.

If Barack Hussein Obama will work to cancel the rights of the most vulnerable in order to empower himself and/or his special interests, and Barack Obama will send out an army of attorneys to stonewall the vetting of him on eligibility issues, what is to stop such a thug from doing anything he wants with a democrat controlled Congress behind his empowerment? Elections have consequences. As we see clearly from his past actions, the Constitution is nothing more than a weak contract Obama ignores when it suits him to do so.


TOPICS: Freeoples; History; Music/Entertainment; Society
KEYWORDS: abortion; bc; birthcertificate; certifigate; colb; obama; prolife
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If the Constitutional requirements for the offcie of President are not followed for this elected candidate, We The People are no longer the sovereigns of this Republic. With this issue, no less than the entire foundation of the Republic is at stake. The final destruction of the complex Republic may not come siwftly, but it will come undoubtedly, because we will have allowed the glue--the Constitution--to be washed away for a chosen one not Constitutionally qualified just because he uses the threat of riot as his means to cower elected officials and appointed judges standing in our stead to encumber his path.
1 posted on 11/12/2008 9:22:21 AM PST by MHGinTN
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To: Jim Robinson

ping


2 posted on 11/12/2008 9:22:47 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

Just how does one wage war against this thug?


3 posted on 11/12/2008 9:25:48 AM PST by sarasota
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To: sarasota

By making enough noise that the media cannot ignore it any longer. That will also serve to defuse the very building threat of violence this thuggish bastard relies upon, just like his cousin, Raila Odinga.


4 posted on 11/12/2008 9:29:47 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: patriot08; Arthur Wildfire! March; bootless

ping


5 posted on 11/12/2008 9:30:24 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: sarasota

>>>Just how does one wage war against this thug?

He wages war against himself... he just doesn’t know it yet.


6 posted on 11/12/2008 9:32:10 AM PST by Safrguns
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To: MHGinTN
With this issue, no less than the entire foundation of the Republic is at stake.

Hear, hear!!

I am convinced Obama is not a citizen but an illegal alien. Until he proves himself a citizen Constitutionally qualified to be President, he should be treated as an illegal alien.

Until Obama proves his natural-born citizenship, his election is illegitimate (as his birth likely is).

As long Obama does not prove his natural-born citizenship, he is committing treason. And if he is not a natural-born citizen, he and all who have participated in covering up his lack of Constitutional qualification are guilty of treason.

It's that simple. It's that important!

7 posted on 11/12/2008 9:33:57 AM PST by DakotaGator
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To: April Lexington

ping


8 posted on 11/12/2008 9:35:45 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: sarasota

I don’t know, but God wins in the end.


9 posted on 11/12/2008 9:35:54 AM PST by OKSooner
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To: MHGinTN

If I’m hearing and reading correctly, there are a few Americans who are standing by to counter any Obama-driven violence.


10 posted on 11/12/2008 9:36:56 AM PST by sarasota
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To: DakotaGator

On Obama’s own website during the primaries and election campaigns, it was stated that Obama’s Kenyan citizenship expired in 1982! If he was not born in Kenya in 1961 —which makes his Hawaiian records moot for proving citizenship since he would not have been born in Hawaii— why would his own website state that his ‘Kenyan citizenship’ ended in 1982? Obama is possibly a bastard but he is certainly an active fraud.


11 posted on 11/12/2008 9:38:55 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

No matter how loud we are, the media will continue to ignore the question of his citizenship until the Supreme Court makes a ruling and the cannot ignore it any more.


12 posted on 11/12/2008 9:49:56 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Obama is the Antichrist.)
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To: sarasota
http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/09/25/breaking-obama-admits-dual-citizenship/

"So, the Senator WAS a Dual National [through his supposed father's Kenyan citizenship]. That is now an admitted fact, admitted by his own Campaign and by Annenberg. The Senator is a Constitutional Lawyer which means that he knows, and has always known, that he is probably Ineligible to Hold the Office of POTUS, or that, at the very least, there is a strong Legal Argument that that is the case. In turn, that means that as he lied about his Kenyan and British Citizenships he is probably lying about his Indonesian Citizenship."

Obama is using the growing threat of violence due to his messainic status with black people as a means to have our government let him have a pass on Constitutional eligibility. The biggest problem with that is 'it is not according to the Constitution' and unless we pass a Constitutional Amendment this criminal bass turd is using extortion to become ruler of We The People ... it has to be 'ruler' since our social contract for governance is based upon OUR Constitution which he is expectging to be ignored for him, specially. Disgusting thug

13 posted on 11/12/2008 9:51:46 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

You just hide and watch us! And BLOAT ... be prepared, because the Chicago thug and his criminal minions like Rahmbo Emanuel will be activated once the noise level reaches proper level. It will only take one ‘Joe The Plumber’ incident of improper background snooping to tumble the aligned dominoes. This illegitimate Marxist squirrel is coming down!


14 posted on 11/12/2008 9:54:32 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN
WARNING: POSSIBLY DISTURBING IMAGE!!

Time to stop sugar-coating this subject. This shot was taken by a pro-life activist behind an abortuary. But those aren’t human babies. The One has told us so.

Photobucket

ALL HAIL “THE ONE!”

15 posted on 11/12/2008 10:00:59 AM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: MHGinTN; sarasota

This is why The One is “suggesting” a strong, well-funded civilian force to protect our national security.

Obviously, civilians = thugs + secret police, to protect The One from We The People by any means necessary including a SCOTUS “sympathetic” to groups and minorities. That I’m sure will stamp out the Constitution, especially the first and second amendments.

I agree with Sarasota’s post #10, however, I think it’s an understatement.


16 posted on 11/12/2008 10:09:46 AM PST by melancholy
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To: Dick Bachert

Dear God in Heaven, your greatest creation has committed the most awful sin. Have mercy.


17 posted on 11/12/2008 10:12:36 AM PST by RedRightReturn (Things are never as easy, as hard, as good, or as bad as they seem...)
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To: MHGinTN

After the failed coup in 1982, Kenya changed its citizenship requirements. Before that, anyone born in Kenya was a citizen, or, in the case of children whose parents were not both Kenya citizens, the child held dual citizenship.

Our youngest daughter had both US & Kenya citizenship until the law changes in 1982.

After 1982, BOTH parents had to be Kenyan citizens in order for the child to have Kenyan citizenship. It was widely believed that the changes were enacted to deny citizenship to much of Kenya’s sizeable “Asian” (Indian & Pakistani) community. At Kenya’s Independence, due to uncertainty about their status with the new government, many Asians took the British citizenship offered. As a result, their children are NOT Kenya citizens, even though they are 3rd or 4th generation Kenyans.


18 posted on 11/12/2008 10:17:05 AM PST by BwanaNdege
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To: MHGinTN; DakotaGator

Unfortunately, it is not clear O had or now has the burden of proving anything, until and unless he is challenged.

It appears there are two points in time to contest the eligibility of a US presidential candidate. The first opportunity is within the stated period of time provided in each state’s primary procedure for challenges. The second opportunity is during the Jan 6 joint session of Congress where an objection can be presented.

With regard to the first opportunity, it is not known how O satisfied the eligibility requirement for each state’s primary. It may be he simply checked a box that asked, “Are you eligible to serve as President?” Nonetheless, Republicans were caught napping during that opportunity and O appeared on each state’s ballot.

The second opportunity consists of a formal objection jointly presented by a Senator and a Representative on Jan 6 whereupon the matter is subject to debate.

So, it seems to me that millions of voters have got to contact the Republican politicians representing their state in DC and put the fear of the pitchfork in them and demand they prepare an objection. The objection must include overwhelming and incontrovertible evidence that O is not eligible. (In this regard, I suggest they check with Hill and Bill who have a world-wide intel network.)


19 posted on 11/12/2008 10:19:52 AM PST by frog in a pot (Is there a definition of "domestic enemies" as used in federal oaths, or is that just lip service?)
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To: frog in a pot

Go to the link in #13 above and read up on the actual facts in evidence even without Barry Soetoro revealing his true birth certification for wherever it occurred. Obama is not eligible. He knows this and has been stonewalling with a platoon of attorneys inorder to allow the tension to build thus increasing the threat of violence by his black sycophants —and make no mistake, not all black people consider this man a good man or a good candidate for leadership of this nation. It is thuggish behavior to use threats of violence as a means to extort from We The People. Obama is doiing just that, extorting US.


20 posted on 11/12/2008 10:27:56 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: cpforlife.org; wagglebee; Coleus

ping


21 posted on 11/12/2008 10:30:54 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN; sarasota

“If I’m hearing and reading correctly, there are a few Americans who are standing by to counter any Obama-driven violence.”

Just learned from a reliable source that several state and Federal agencies went through Greensburg, KS following the tornado and confiscated firearms a la Louisiana.

I missed that in the press! Does anyone know of any credible evidence of that?


22 posted on 11/12/2008 10:38:11 AM PST by frog in a pot (Is there a definition of "domestic enemies" as used in federal oaths, or is that just lip service?)
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To: MHGinTN
Get over it all. He is not going to produce something that he can't & is going to be the prez - not mine. Now smell the coffee. You live in a Banana Republic that no matter your vote, these criminals in this government are going to do whatever they want because all you will do is bitch. You won't actively protest & get in the faces of these perverts nor get to the streets & disrupt their fiefdoms. So they will continue their ways & you'll just bitch some more & sit on your whitie arses.
23 posted on 11/12/2008 10:38:56 AM PST by Digger (If RINO is your selection, then failure is your election)
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To: MHGinTN
Don’t take this the wrong way.....because I agree
with your thoughts.

The Constitution has always been just a piece of
paper with some ink on it. The only power it ever
had was in the hearts and minds of the men who
believed in what is written there enough to do
what it took to make people who want to live here
live by what is written there. Or, by the
Constitution’s own rules, change it.

Others will have their own opinion as to the point
in time the Constitution’s power was lost, but for
\me it was Roe v. Wade.

Abortion is so obviously murder that it really
can’t be argued. When the murder of millions of
US citizens is tolerated because of some convoluted
argument about some invisible right to privacy;
the deed was done.

This Obama birth certificate dust-up is chump-change
by comparison.

It is going to take more than just a few drops of blood to .....

24 posted on 11/12/2008 10:48:35 AM PST by Cyber Ninja (His legacy is a stain on the dress.)
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To: MHGinTN

I am familiar with the dual citizenship argument in #13 and believe it can be easily rationalized by a Dem controlled Congress and a USSC that will find the issue is within the discretion of that Congress.. Hope my view on this point is wrong.

The better argument would be to convincingly demonstrate O was born in Kenya, if indeed he was, to a Kenyan father and an “underage” mother.


25 posted on 11/12/2008 10:55:18 AM PST by frog in a pot (Is there a definition of "domestic enemies" as used in federal oaths, or is that just lip service?)
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To: Digger
Okay, would you like to join in a march on Congress, to correspond with the receiving of the electoral votes? ... Didn't think so. Run along

A massive gathering on that day is a great idea, though. What say my fellow freepers?

26 posted on 11/12/2008 11:04:38 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: frog in a pot

I hadn’t heard anything about that either. God only knows what’s in store for us if we don’t rally what’s left of “our troops”.


27 posted on 11/12/2008 11:06:08 AM PST by sarasota
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To: frog in a pot

I read that the Chicago Machine vetted him before he ran for Senator. Thugs rule.


28 posted on 11/12/2008 11:07:59 AM PST by sarasota
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To: MHGinTN

OJ, Odings and now Obama.


29 posted on 11/12/2008 11:09:45 AM PST by sarasota
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To: frog in a pot; Jim Robinson
I have no doubt that the Democrat controlled Congress will seek some escape clause approach to enshrining this illegitimate Marxist in the office. I want a couple of elected Republicans to summon the cajones to protest this unConstitutional inveiglement. The steps must be followed ... raise the issue, make plenty of noise, send plenty of messages to demand the issue not be ignored, perhaps have a massive gathering in DC at the appropriate time, and hopefully have at least one Senator and one House Republican raise the objection to his eligibility. We have to start somewhere, and FR is an excellent point of beginnings.
30 posted on 11/12/2008 11:11:03 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

What’s the date?


31 posted on 11/12/2008 11:12:02 AM PST by sarasota
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To: OnTheDress

Actually, the first chisel mark was with the SCOTUS ruling on contraception and privacy. Roe v Wade flowed from that inveiglement.


32 posted on 11/12/2008 11:13:46 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: sarasota

Jan 6th?


33 posted on 11/12/2008 11:14:13 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: sarasota

Jan. 6, at 1:15p is when we’d have to petition.


34 posted on 11/12/2008 11:14:44 AM PST by txhurl (somebody just bought 12 Carrier Battle Groups for 600 million dollars)
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To: Dick Bachert

That photograph was taken behind an abortuary in Canada. But the reality is stark never the less. More horrific pictures are available at AshvilleTribune.com (or AshevilleNews.com ... I used to have the addy on my now defunct desktop), or were for a number of years.


35 posted on 11/12/2008 11:16:48 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

Saw that photo first at “America’s Back Door Market for Aborted Fetal Tissue,” Asheville Tribune, 2/25/00 . I think it may be available at Lime5 website still, but not sure.


36 posted on 11/12/2008 11:26:18 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

We are on the same page.

You work on conducting a rally in DC either before or right after Christmas and during the middle of winter (smiling).

I will launch an effort to get 46% of the voters to physically visit the offices of their local Republican politicians before the end of November. The visit will be to convince them to coordinate the filing of a massive objection on Jan 6 to the vote of each Dem state.

We will prevail, but only if “we” already have solid evidence of O’s ineligibility. I.e., if that evidence is not already in the bag, we are probably screwed.


37 posted on 11/12/2008 11:55:00 AM PST by frog in a pot (Is there a definition of "domestic enemies" as used in federal oaths, or is that just lip service?)
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To: Dick Bachert
WARNING: POSSIBLY DISTURBING IMAGE!!

Why not just put a pitchfork in my heart? I lost a baby to miscarriage and to see the wanton destruction of BABIES that could have been held and loved and had their soft skin kissed and toes and fingers counted just breaks my heart.

A MOTHER who is that close to delivery and who won't go ahead, birth the child and give up her baby for adoption HAS to be mentally ill. There's no other explanation. How can a MOTHER hate her baby that much?

You warned me, I looked, I believe that those aborted babies become little cherubs and surround the Blessed Mother, Theotokos, who lovingly embraces them and gives them the love their earth mothers refused them.


38 posted on 11/12/2008 1:05:25 PM PST by HighlyOpinionated (The Court is very jealous of its power - even over presidents, even over presidents-elect.”)
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To: MHGinTN
Obama is possibly a bastard but he is certainly an active fraud.

Concur!

39 posted on 11/12/2008 1:13:41 PM PST by DakotaGator
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To: NellieMae

ping


40 posted on 11/12/2008 1:15:55 PM PST by NellieMae (Here...... common sense,common sense,common sense,where'd ya go... common sense......)
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To: MHGinTN; Coleus; nickcarraway; narses; Mr. Silverback; Canticle_of_Deborah; ...

The US is about to have a Marxist Foreigner as POTUS and it appears no official has the guts to publicly ask for his records.

PING


41 posted on 11/12/2008 1:20:33 PM PST by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at KnightsForLife.org)
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To: frog in a pot

And Indonesia? As well to his school break trip to Pakistan? What passport could he have used for that?

At any rate, where is the record of his travels on his U.S. Passport (which i’m sure his present one is probably new and wouldn’t have that info).


42 posted on 11/12/2008 1:47:40 PM PST by AliVeritas (Pray, Pray, Pray)
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To: frog in a pot
"So, it seems to me that millions of voters have got to contact the Republican politicians representing their state in DC and put the fear of the pitchfork in them and demand they prepare an objection. The objection must include overwhelming and incontrovertible evidence that O is not eligible."

Understand your comments. But I have a different view of the situation. There appear to be two items at work here whose application I do not agree with; Standing, and Burden of Proof.

With regards to the first, Standing; several courts are dismissing cases demanding Obama prove eligibility based on lack of plaintiffs' standing. This outrageous! Each and every citizen has standing to demand through the courts that a candidate prove his eligibility for elected office. For any court to rule otherwise is a travesty!

And for the courts to suggest that The People must go through Congress or the Secretaries of the Several States to force production of proof of eligibility smacks of obstruction of justice. Remember, these are the same courts which do not hesitate to manufacture "rights" out of whole cloth. So far the courts are only manufacturing the "right" for Obama to be an illegal alien!

Regarding the second item; Burden of Proof; quite simply, burden of proof is always on the candidate...for any position. For the courts and Congress to suggest otherwise is to require The People to prove a negative. And this is preposterous! The Burden of Proof regarding citizenship has always been on Obama. And he has never met it.

Yes, Congress and the courts need to become acquainted with "the fear of the pitchfork". And they need to be forcefully reminded that they do not have the authority to withhold Obama's Constitutional qualifications. By the Tenth Amendment it is a right reserved to The People to demand to see a Presidential candidate's qualifications.

We, The People have not given the Congress, the Judiciary, nor the Several States the power to withhold this information! We have reserved it to ourselves as an individual right. Then again, I'm still thinking of the United States as a Constitutional Republic.

Silly me!

43 posted on 11/12/2008 2:38:13 PM PST by DakotaGator
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To: MHGinTN

This is becoming The Issue That Won’t Go Away.


44 posted on 11/12/2008 3:11:32 PM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: DakotaGator

Your post is the substance of the letter I’m writing this evening, to be mailed to Justice Thomas at SCOTUS tomorrow morning. Thank you for stating the two issues so succinctly! If this is a Constitutional Republic still, then these people work for me and 299,000,000 other sovereigns of the Republic. We ought have the right to assurance that this Chicago thug is at least eligible to run for the office.


45 posted on 11/12/2008 3:16:17 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

Live Free or Die as one slogan goes, looked it up for New Hampshire of all places; in ways, I’d almost live under some Totalitarian regimes of the past rather than some of this rubbish going on now in this country. I guess that is not a good attitude to have.


46 posted on 11/12/2008 3:53:58 PM PST by RGPII (Stand your ground!)
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To: MHGinTN

bttt


47 posted on 11/12/2008 3:55:45 PM PST by petercooper (1/20/13 - Change I can believe in.)
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To: RGPII

Well, for now—because the Marxist messiah has not been sworn in yet—you can have any damned attitude you want to have. After January 2009 that may no longer attend.


48 posted on 11/12/2008 4:22:51 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

ping


49 posted on 11/12/2008 5:11:16 PM PST by Camaroguy84
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To: MHGinTN
If this is a Constitutional Republic still, then these people work for me and 299,000,000 other sovereigns of the Republic. We ought have the right to assurance that this Chicago thug is at least eligible to run for the office.

Thus speaks a real American! Well said!!

50 posted on 11/12/2008 5:30:27 PM PST by DakotaGator
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