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MOSSBERG 590A1 TACTICAL SHOTGUNS
Guns & Ammo ^ | Dec. 19, 2009 | Press Release

Posted on 12/28/2008 3:19:57 PM PST by smokingfrog

Tactical Shotguns now available to general public.

North Haven, CT (January 2009)—From U.S. Service men and women around the world to law enforcement agencies across the country, Mossberg shotguns have experienced nearly four decades of combat and combat readiness in the hands of armed forces world-wide. Enjoying a long-standing relationship with the U.S. armed forces, Mossberg is the manufacturer of the only 12 gauge pump action shotgun ever to pass the stringent U.S. Military Mil-Spec 3443 standard.

Now, for 2009 Mossberg will make available select 590A1 models to the general public. All models will come standard with heavy-walled barrels, metal trigger guards and safety buttons in a durable Parkerized finish. A full range of sighting options will be available in front bead, ghost ring rear or 3-dot configurations. Several variations of stocks will also be available with wood, synthetic, speed feed and adjustable aluminum. All 590A1 models come drilled and tapped from the factory making it easy to mount a Picatinny rail, scope base or other optic options. Other accessories available for the 590A1 are heat shields, Picatinny rails as well as orange buttstocks and forearms for training purposes.

The Mossberg shotgun has a proven place not only in the field but also for home/personal defense.



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KEYWORDS: banglist; homedefense; mossberg; shotgun; shotguns; tactical
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1 posted on 12/28/2008 3:19:57 PM PST by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog

Git ‘em while you can.


2 posted on 12/28/2008 3:21:26 PM PST by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: SIDENET

About how much?


3 posted on 12/28/2008 3:23:22 PM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: savedbygrace
Suggested retail of 500 bucks.

Saw them online for $399, but they were out of stock.

4 posted on 12/28/2008 3:26:54 PM PST by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: savedbygrace

500-600$

590’s have been available to the public for 2 decades I dont know how old this pres release is! I have seen A1 models (thicker barrel for the navy) for sale several years ago.


5 posted on 12/28/2008 3:27:27 PM PST by omega4179 (Ramos and Compean)
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To: smokingfrog

I WANT ONE!!!!!!!!!!!


6 posted on 12/28/2008 3:27:51 PM PST by RetiredArmy (Great patriotic stuff at www.patriotstore.us.)
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To: smokingfrog

Nice!

I have a 500, and it has always been great.


7 posted on 12/28/2008 3:31:15 PM PST by KoRn
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To: smokingfrog

http://www.mdarms.com/scripts/openExtra.asp?extra=18


8 posted on 12/28/2008 3:41:17 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: smokingfrog

They’re great shotguns, I have had two, but I always ended up trading them for something I wanted more. Can’t go wrong with them. Get a Knoxx recoil absorbing stock for it. You’ll be glad you did.


9 posted on 12/28/2008 3:46:52 PM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: smokingfrog

A shotgun is an awfully specialized choice for a tactical weapon. Most people would be better served by a semi-auto rifle. I’d say an FAL or AR-15 if you want something lighter, but hey, whatever floats your boat...


10 posted on 12/28/2008 3:51:14 PM PST by Mogwai (Palin/Santorum 2012!)
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To: smokingfrog

Nice! If I didn’t already have a 500A...


11 posted on 12/28/2008 3:53:44 PM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Illegal Immigration is not about the immigration. Gun control is not about the guns.)
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To: RetiredArmy

http://www.gunsamerica.com/999550774/Guns/Shotguns/Class-3-Shotguns/Class-3-Any-Other-Weapon/Mossberg_590A1_3_0_Magnum_12_Gauge_US_Military_AOW_w_Special_Heavy_Walled_Barrel_NI.htm


12 posted on 12/28/2008 3:55:15 PM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: smokingfrog
Mossberg makes a great shotgun for home defense; it's short for ease of maneuvering in close quarters. It's name/model is on the tip of my tongue; maybe someone else knows?
13 posted on 12/28/2008 3:55:44 PM PST by Lady Jag (DONATE NOW at https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate)
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To: Mogwai
A shotgun is an awfully specialized choice for a tactical weapon.

I disagree. The 12 guage shotgun is the most versatile weapon one can reasonably have. With it you can take any game in the lower 48, although it wouldn't be my first choice for large bears. But it would work.

You can bring down any bird from a snipe to a goose with one.

It'll take serious mankilling loads like 00 and 000 buckshot, and a Federal Copper Solid slug in 12 guage will pass through Class IIA Kevlar like it wasn't there.

You can use it to stop a riot with birdshot, specialized less-than-lethal loads or drop a bad guy with a 1 oz. lead slug moving at 900 fps from 75 yards.

Hell, there are even shells that will turn your trusty shotgun into a flamethrower.

And of all the pump action shotguns available I think that the Mossberg 500 and 590 series represent one of the best values on the market today.

Just my opinion of course. Your mileage may vary.

Happy New Year.

L

14 posted on 12/28/2008 3:59:45 PM PST by Lurker ("America is at that awkward stage. " Claire Wolfe, call your office.)
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To: Lady Jag
That would be the Mossberg Persuader I believe.

L

15 posted on 12/28/2008 4:00:37 PM PST by Lurker ("America is at that awkward stage. " Claire Wolfe, call your office.)
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To: Lady Jag

“the persuader”


16 posted on 12/28/2008 4:02:46 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Mogwai

Depends on how far away the neighbors are and how fond you are of them.

I’ve fired an FAL and can say that the recoil is less and follow up shots are faster than my with Mossberg 500. On the other hand, the muzzle an FAL enters the room about 2 or 3 steps ahead of you and doesn’t do corners nearly as well as a shotgun with an 18.5 20 inch barrel. At home defense ranges a shotgun packs a lot of power in a light, maneuverable package.

If I didn’t live in an apartment though and conceivably might have to engage targets beyond 20 yards AK or AR might be my choice for home defense.


17 posted on 12/28/2008 4:05:46 PM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Illegal Immigration is not about the immigration. Gun control is not about the guns.)
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To: smokingfrog

My Daddy was always a Mossberg man. My first shotgun back in 1958 was a Mossberg 20 gauge. It was a terrible shotgun. It was a bolt action, 3 shot and mechanically worked fine.

The main problem was it kicked much harder than a 20 gauge should have. This was despite having a rubber recoil pad and muzzle brake cuts just behind the C-lect choke. Also the trigger had an edge which was so sharp that it often cut my finger under recoil.

My next Mossberg was a model 500 pump. The safety which was placed in the exact right position for easy use, was made of plastic and broke. I went to the local gun dealer to order a new one and to my surprise he had maybe two dozen of them already in stock. He said they all broke so he ordered plenty of replacements.

Actually I like Mossbergs just fine, but they have made some pretty bad products,


18 posted on 12/28/2008 4:07:07 PM PST by yarddog
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To: Mogwai
A shotgun is an awfully specialized choice for a tactical weapon

Maybe. - A long time ago, I watched a buddy chalk up kill after kill with one during an ambush.

It was close quarters and we were withdrawing, but he nailed more than a half dozen, and I'm not exaggerating one bit.

I'd say it would be great for the home if you had no problem getting to it. - and perhaps no kids, either.

Thanks for your post.

19 posted on 12/28/2008 4:12:32 PM PST by bill1952 (McCain and the GOP were worthless)
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To: smokingfrog
If you a bargain shotgun from Mossberg based on the 500 series, take a look at their Maverick line. It's pretty much the same as 500, except the safety is different. Barrels for the 500 are interchangeable. I got the the Security 88 model with 18.5" barrel at Academy Sports for $149 about 2 years ago.



http://www.maverickarms.com/pages/88security.htm
20 posted on 12/28/2008 4:16:15 PM PST by RonboTex (Go ahead... Make my day.)
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To: RonboTex

I agree the Maverick is a good buy. The one thing I don’t care for on them is they have only one action bar. Of course John Browning only put one on his design which Ithaca copied in the famous model 37.

I still much prefer the double action bars of the model 500, Remington 870, Winchester 1200, 1300 etc.


21 posted on 12/28/2008 4:20:24 PM PST by yarddog
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To: omega4179

> 590’s have been available to the public for 2 decades I dont know how old this pres release is! I have seen A1 models (thicker barrel for the navy) for sale several years ago.

Question? Why would the Navy model have a thicker barrel?


22 posted on 12/28/2008 4:21:10 PM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: smokingfrog

I have a Mossberg Maverick. I have the standard barrel for hunting turkey, etc and I also have the home defender barrel, which is shorter. This is a cheaper option, but damn that tactical shotgun looks fun!


23 posted on 12/28/2008 4:23:55 PM PST by foutsc (Nietzsche is Dead)
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To: Lady Jag

Maverick 88?


24 posted on 12/28/2008 4:31:26 PM PST by smokingfrog (I'll go green when they plant me in the ground.)
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To: yarddog
I agree the Maverick is a good buy. The one thing I don’t care for on them is they have only one action bar. Of course John Browning only put one on his design which Ithaca copied in the famous model 37. I still much prefer the double action bars of the model 500, Remington 870, Winchester 1200, 1300 etc.

Actually the current/newer models have two action bars.
25 posted on 12/28/2008 4:31:32 PM PST by RonboTex (Go ahead... Make my day.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Thicker barrel makes a better club when you run out of ammo.


26 posted on 12/28/2008 4:34:25 PM PST by smokingfrog (I'll go green when they plant me in the ground.)
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To: RonboTex

That is good to know. I always wondered if they really saved any money going to the single action bar.


27 posted on 12/28/2008 4:37:01 PM PST by yarddog
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To: smokingfrog

> Thicker barrel makes a better club when you run out of ammo.

Thanks... that makes sense.

(so the Navy’s likely to run out of ammo? That’s disconcerting. Obama better fix that pronto, instead of bailing out all his rich mates.)


28 posted on 12/28/2008 4:40:45 PM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: RonboTex

I’ve got a Maverick 20 gage coming in soon. Didn’t know they made a 18.5 inch version. Would have bought that if I had known. I just chop the long barrel in my lathe.


29 posted on 12/28/2008 4:41:14 PM PST by refermech
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

If you are planning on going around corners with any rifle or shotgun, you might want to reconsider. It would really suck to have your gun taken away from you in the middle of the night.

Either use a pistol, or stay put and let the bad guys come to you.


30 posted on 12/28/2008 4:44:46 PM PST by Mr Rogers (And if there are those who cannot subscribe to these principles, then let them go their way - Reagan)
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To: Lurker
Just my opinion of course. Your mileage may vary.

My opinion as well. Thanks

31 posted on 12/28/2008 4:45:56 PM PST by Octar
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To: SIDENET

Bump


32 posted on 12/28/2008 4:47:46 PM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: smokingfrog
i'll still take my Ithaca...

33 posted on 12/28/2008 4:49:35 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist -)
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To: Lurker

I have a basic (but hopefully not too ignorant) question about shotguns.

Is there a reason that I never see them come with a ammo clip (like the m-16) ? It seems that it would take a long time to reload a shotgun under pressure without the benefit of having a clip.

Thanks in advance.


34 posted on 12/28/2008 4:50:21 PM PST by jefferson31415
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To: DieHard the Hunter

I think it was in case there was water in the barrel it wont explode when you shoot it. I compared one side by side to a 590 and it was pretty much the same shotgun.


35 posted on 12/28/2008 4:55:06 PM PST by omega4179 (Ramos and Compean)
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To: jefferson31415
"because they look scary"?


36 posted on 12/28/2008 4:55:55 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: SIDENET

I just got a 500; my other 500 is on back order.... a friend has a 590 on back order.... even Mossberg doesn’t know when it’ll get to the retailer. They are SWAMPED... just like everyone else.


37 posted on 12/28/2008 4:56:21 PM PST by Operation_Shock_N_Awe (I'd rather be a conservative nut job than a liberal with no nuts and no job)
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To: Lady Jag

P500 if you’re trying to save money.


38 posted on 12/28/2008 4:57:38 PM PST by George Smiley (Palin is the real deal.)
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To: Lurker

To all of that, I would add this:

In a suburban environment, using birdshot (say, #7 or #6) would give a reliable killing power inside of 7 yards (ie, inside a house or room), yet have limited power to punch through an exterior wall, or limited power if any pellets did get through an exterior wall.

I’m in complete agreement with you as to their versatility. There is nothing, and I mean NOTHING, as versatile as a shotgun. I’ve used mine for everything up to coyotes, dispatching livestock, cutting down small trees, eliminating squirrels and gophers... even disposing of 5” and 3.5” disk drives from old computers where I don’t want anyone reading my data.

A shotgun simply cannot be beat for the all-around firearm.


39 posted on 12/28/2008 4:57:50 PM PST by NVDave
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To: jefferson31415

look up the USAS-12


40 posted on 12/28/2008 4:57:58 PM PST by omega4179 (Ramos and Compean)
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To: Lady Jag
Probably the Mossberg 500 cruiser 18 1/2" barrel, and pistol grip....

or the Mossberg 500 Rolling Thunder... 18 1/2" barrel, pistol grip, and heat shield (has the big can "barrel stabilizer" on it)

41 posted on 12/28/2008 4:58:36 PM PST by Operation_Shock_N_Awe (I'd rather be a conservative nut job than a liberal with no nuts and no job)
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To: Operation_Shock_N_Awe

I saw a columbian drug police 590 in a pawn shop the other day, it had a 2003 date on it they are around if you shop around.


42 posted on 12/28/2008 4:59:01 PM PST by omega4179 (Ramos and Compean)
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To: Chode

Looks like a Model 37. Sweet.


43 posted on 12/28/2008 4:59:04 PM PST by George Smiley (Palin is the real deal.)
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To: jefferson31415

There are a few shotguns which take a detachable magazine for reloading. The Russian Saiga is one. Another was the old Mossberg which I mentioned in an earlier post.

I think the main reason is most shotguns are used for bird hunting where extremely quick reloads are not required plus it is pretty fast to reload most pumps and autoloaders anyway. Also since a 12 gauge shell is pretty large, the mags must also be a bit large and cumbersome.

Most shotgun hunters are traditionalists and like the way they look with the undertube magazine.

There really is no reason they couldn’t use the detachable system.


44 posted on 12/28/2008 4:59:14 PM PST by yarddog
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To: jefferson31415
The Saiga shotgun has a removable magazine. It is based on the AK-47.

Actually, with a pump gun, you can reload quite quickly. You insert shells into the tube magazine during breaks in the action.

Here is a pic of a couple Saiga-12s.


45 posted on 12/28/2008 4:59:29 PM PST by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: Mogwai
As one firearms store owner put it...

A 12 gage pump offers a unique form of home defense. To a would-be bugler sneaking into a home, the sound of the pump-slide being racked, and round going into the chamber says "get out" like nothing else. And hey, if they don't take the hint, it will get the job done - the boom of it firing may be the last sound they ever hear.

46 posted on 12/28/2008 4:59:34 PM PST by CodeMasterPhilzar
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To: Chode

The Russians make semi-autos under the Saiga brand.

Have no knowledge of how reliable they are.


47 posted on 12/28/2008 4:59:55 PM PST by George Smiley (Palin is the real deal.)
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To: jefferson31415

Saiga-12 semi-auto shotgun

48 posted on 12/28/2008 5:00:16 PM PST by smokingfrog (I'll go green when they plant me in the ground.)
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To: Mr Rogers

or know how to “pie the corner” while doing urban assault... short stocking works too(don’t recommend w/a shotgun, but pistol grip shotties work wonders... good for breaching too).


49 posted on 12/28/2008 5:01:28 PM PST by Operation_Shock_N_Awe (I'd rather be a conservative nut job than a liberal with no nuts and no job)
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To: George Smiley

They are “bitchin” I was running 3” 00 buck though one yesterday


50 posted on 12/28/2008 5:03:33 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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