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"The Watchmen" Lie: Hollywood Sends More Depravity Your Kids' Way Costumed as "Superhero" Flick
debbieschlussel.com ^ | March 4, 2009 | Debbie Schlussel

Posted on 03/04/2009 11:38:44 AM PST by EveningStar

If you take your kids to see "The Watchmen," you're a moron...

(Excerpt) Read more at debbieschlussel.com ...


TOPICS: Society; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: debbieschlussel; depravity; horror; immorality; moralabsolutes; notaste; watchmen
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1 posted on 03/04/2009 11:38:44 AM PST by EveningStar
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2 posted on 03/04/2009 11:39:28 AM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Debbie Schussel is kind of annoying now.


3 posted on 03/04/2009 11:40:02 AM PST by exist
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To: EveningStar

Watchmen is NOT a kids movie. It wasn’t even a kids graphic novel (comic book). Anyone that thinks it was either doesn’t know The Watchmen.


4 posted on 03/04/2009 11:41:17 AM PST by Domandred (Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.)
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To: Aaron0617
Its close to three hours long and the guy in the blue outfit. Well, thats not an outfit and you get so see all of him the entire flick.
5 posted on 03/04/2009 11:42:27 AM PST by Aaron0617
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To: exist

Yeah. The Watchmen wasn’t even marketed to kids as a comic book, and I don’t see any indication that it will be as a movie.


6 posted on 03/04/2009 11:43:44 AM PST by MitchellC
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To: Aaron0617

That’s the way the graphic novel wanted it.
Dr. Manhattan is not human, and becomes less empathetic to humans as time passes on.
As such, he sees no need for clothes as he progresses towards a god-like status.


7 posted on 03/04/2009 11:44:31 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: Domandred

Thats why reviews like this are good. I had no idea what this movie was about until now. I thought it was going to be like X-men or Spiderman.


8 posted on 03/04/2009 11:44:40 AM PST by icwhatudo
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To: EveningStar

As a mystery, it’s a very intriguing tale, but ultimately rather nihilistic. It’ll make Dark Knight look like a Will Ferrell comedy.


9 posted on 03/04/2009 11:46:26 AM PST by william clark (Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: Domandred

Well... Yeah. This needed to be stated? Out loud? By someone with a working forebrain?<p.
It’s Rated R for fricks sake...


10 posted on 03/04/2009 11:46:38 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Te odeo, interfice te cochleare)
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To: exist
. . .kind of annoying now.

Now? Schussel has always been annoying. Even the 55% to 65% of the time when I agree with her basic point, her over-the-top way of expressing it grates on me. She's a female analog of Michael Savage--right a majority of the time, but annoying to the point of uselessness all the time.

11 posted on 03/04/2009 11:46:58 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: icwhatudo

actually it is an alternative history view of the world.

If anything it is even more fitting in the totalitarian media control of the obama administration.

www.themoviespoiler.com should have a synopisis but other than the gian squid, it is true to the old commic book.

Who is watching Obama? certainly not the main stream media.


12 posted on 03/04/2009 11:47:18 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: MitchellC
Yeah. The Watchmen wasn’t even marketed to kids as a comic book, and I don’t see any indication that it will be as a movie.

I mean...drawing the line at THE WATCHMEN? Really? Have you turned on MTV? Network television?

13 posted on 03/04/2009 11:48:21 AM PST by exist
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To: EveningStar
Uhh, it's “Watchmen”, anyone with even passing familiarity with the source material will know it's not (and not meant to be, and shouldn't be) kiddie fare.
14 posted on 03/04/2009 11:48:39 AM PST by Republican Party Reptile
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To: EveningStar

Uh, I know very little about the story, other than it was always written as a comic book for adults. It’s not for kids... that’s why it is rated “R”.

Also, Debbie Schlussel is h-o-t.


15 posted on 03/04/2009 11:49:08 AM PST by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A GUTLESS SOCIALIST LOSER WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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To: Domandred; MitchellC

Did you read her second paragraph? :)


16 posted on 03/04/2009 11:49:09 AM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

I am so sick of morons (like Ms Schussel, AND her fans commenting on her site ) who jump to the conclusion that every single comic is for kids, and so are all “superhero” movies. Moore’s Watchmen graphic novel is a great read-and it has ALWAYS been understood by all halfway reasonable people (leaving out poor overwrought Debby) that it’s for the 18 and over crowd. Ditto this film, which I will certainly see ASAP.


17 posted on 03/04/2009 11:50:11 AM PST by kaylar
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To: Domandred

Sounds like it puts the “graphic” into graphic novel.


18 posted on 03/04/2009 11:50:22 AM PST by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: icwhatudo

Good point. I haven’t paid attention to how it has been marketed at all. The graphic novel is still on my bookshelf (with very few select others), where all my other comics have gone the way of eBay.

I was actually afraid the movie company would go the other way and clean it up, campify it, to be more kid friendly like “Batman Forever” and “Batman & Robin”. So glad that the franchise got yanked from Schumacher.

Anyways yes Watchmen is dirty, gritty, violent, ugly, and whatever else you want to throw at it. I don’t recommend it for just casual viewing at all (without even seeing it yet only the trailers). I just know that from the graphic novel.


19 posted on 03/04/2009 11:51:04 AM PST by Domandred (Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.)
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To: Dead Corpse

frick’s sake?


20 posted on 03/04/2009 11:51:18 AM PST by brytlea (Proud descendent of Andrew Kent, Alamo Defender)
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To: SJSAMPLE
As such, he sees no need for clothes as he progresses towards a god-like status.


21 posted on 03/04/2009 11:52:20 AM PST by a fool in paradise ("Do you know the website number?" - VP Joe Biden)
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To: brytlea
meh.. Trying to keep it clean.

Debbie's really showing her blonde roots on this one...

22 posted on 03/04/2009 11:52:25 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Te odeo, interfice te cochleare)
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To: kaylar

The problem (I suspect) is that many parents will also be clueless and think it’s for the kiddies. I’d say the R rating would give them a clue but you might be surprised how many of my elementary students would tell me about this or that R rated movie they saw.


23 posted on 03/04/2009 11:53:10 AM PST by brytlea (Proud descendent of Andrew Kent, Alamo Defender)
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To: EveningStar

I knew this would be a problem. Watchmen is not a kids’ comic book, it’s a true graphic novel, with lots of sex, relationships, and moral questions. There’s no way to do it as movie and make it a good guy vs. bad guy flick. But leave it to the Hollywood marketing teams to screw up royally.


24 posted on 03/04/2009 11:53:44 AM PST by Clock King (Radical Conservatives, arise!)
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To: Dead Corpse

LOL that was just a whole new one on me!


25 posted on 03/04/2009 11:53:50 AM PST by brytlea (Proud descendent of Andrew Kent, Alamo Defender)
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To: kaylar

Her point was that parents would be bringing 10 year olds to this film and witnessed such action.

She may have found the movie pointless but ultimately she is concerned about some parents who may come to the film bringing the kids because they don’t want to say “no”.


26 posted on 03/04/2009 11:54:00 AM PST by a fool in paradise ("Do you know the website number?" - VP Joe Biden)
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To: EveningStar

It is rated R.

I don’t even take my daughter (age 8) to see PG-13 movies, for Pete’s sake!


27 posted on 03/04/2009 11:54:16 AM PST by Constitution Day
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To: EveningStar

“like actually investigating the movie before you take or send your kids to see this garbage”

Right, like the same people investigated Obama before they elected him.


28 posted on 03/04/2009 11:54:21 AM PST by dblshot
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To: icwhatudo

Joe Bob Briggs used to give the drive-in score for films (judged on blood, breasts, and beasts).


29 posted on 03/04/2009 11:55:59 AM PST by a fool in paradise ("Do you know the website number?" - VP Joe Biden)
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To: All
Did anyone click on the link and read her second paragraph? :)

"If you see it yourself, you're also probably a moron and a vapid, indecent human being. The movie arrives in theaters at Midnight, Thursday Night. It's rated "R"--which should kinda sorta be a hint--but it really deserves an "NC-17," at the very least."

30 posted on 03/04/2009 11:56:59 AM PST by EveningStar
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To: dblshot

you can go to www.themoviespoiler.com and have a whole synopis for free.

no need to spend money.

People need to focus on the story itself rather than just the costumes.

Seriously, part of the book is where Ronald Reagan beat carter in 1976.


31 posted on 03/04/2009 11:59:03 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: EveningStar

Yeah, where she says that anyone who sees it is a moron?


32 posted on 03/04/2009 11:59:30 AM PST by MitchellC
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To: Constitution Day
It is rated R.

After reading the review on the movie I'm surprised it's not rated NC-17.
33 posted on 03/04/2009 11:59:36 AM PST by copaliscrossing (Progressives are Socialists)
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To: EveningStar

sounds like she is afraid people might see an antigovernment message in “who watches the watchmen”.


34 posted on 03/04/2009 12:00:28 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: MitchellC

I was thinking of seeing it. :)


35 posted on 03/04/2009 12:00:47 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: Domandred

I knew nothing at all about the existence of The Watchmen prior to seeing ads for the movie. I think this is probably true with many people. Schlussel is correct that it’s being depicted as a superhero type of movie in the previews. And let’s not forget: one of the general premises in superhero movies is that the good guys win in the end. From her article, I don’t know if there are any “good guys” in the whole film. I’ll steer my kids away from this movie if they start showing any interest in it.


36 posted on 03/04/2009 12:01:07 PM PST by Two Kids' Dad (((( ))))
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To: All

37 posted on 03/04/2009 12:02:07 PM PST by Peter Vollmer
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To: EveningStar

Which confirms, IMO, that she’s a natural blonde.


38 posted on 03/04/2009 12:02:42 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Te odeo, interfice te cochleare)
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To: EveningStar

I’d agree if you take your kids to watchmen you are a moron, but not because of hollywood, but because you are too damned stupid to know the source material that this movie is based on.

This isn’t a story of Hollywood taking a classic comic super hero like say a superman and making him evil or dark, or applying moral relevancy to him... this is a movie that is based on a very adult themed and very dark comic to begin with.


39 posted on 03/04/2009 12:03:03 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Two Kids' Dad

watchment came about during the resurgene of the graphic novels with deeper plot lines.

Watchment was famous BECAUSE it showed the complicated nature of the costumed superheroes life.


40 posted on 03/04/2009 12:03:50 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: william clark
As a mystery, it’s a very intriguing tale, but ultimately rather nihilistic.

I remember reading the series when it came out, right before I went to college. It was ground-breaking at the time - violent, dark, often profound. Now every comic book - er, excuse me, graphic novel - tries for the same, and usually misses.

It’ll make Dark Knight look like a Will Ferrell comedy.

We can hope. Given Hollywood's usual adaptations of great novels and other written source material, who know?
41 posted on 03/04/2009 12:04:21 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Two Kids' Dad
16 or older could probably handle it. Younger? Nope. This is definitely "adult" stuff.

I'm just jazzed that they seem to be getting so much of the story CORRECT.

42 posted on 03/04/2009 12:04:36 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Te odeo, interfice te cochleare)
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To: exist
You're right. MTV is nonstop garbage, and it is marketed to kids - their viewership tends to be pre-teens and early teens. By college age, most kids have matured enough to realize how dopey it is.
43 posted on 03/04/2009 12:05:11 PM PST by MitchellC
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To: Two Kids' Dad

The movie is RATED R, its a movie based on a completely ADULT graphic model, if you think this is a movie for kids, then frankly you are an imbecile.


44 posted on 03/04/2009 12:05:50 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: a fool in paradise

LOL.

I was at the “Bad Obama Paintings” site yesterday.


45 posted on 03/04/2009 12:06:47 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: Peter Vollmer

LOL!!!

And, for the record, I liked the graphic novel....

The segment in which Rorschach was in prison was great...


46 posted on 03/04/2009 12:07:50 PM PST by wolf24 ("The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools")
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To: a fool in paradise

Had she stopped there, maybe.

But she kept blathering on about that which she does not know.


47 posted on 03/04/2009 12:07:55 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: Peter Vollmer

Heh. Love it.

But they forgot the kid with the black cavalier uniform, slouch hat and Guy Fawkes mask. And the daggers.


48 posted on 03/04/2009 12:08:10 PM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: EveningStar
If you take your kids to see "The Watchmen," you're a moron...
This is supposed to be news to who?
49 posted on 03/04/2009 12:08:19 PM PST by Mr. Know It All
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To: EveningStar

Watchmen is an comic meant for adults.


50 posted on 03/04/2009 12:08:41 PM PST by Centurion2000 (01-20-2009 : The end of the PAX AMERICANA.)
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